A Gay Man's Interpretation of Beauty

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    Aug 29, 2009 5:13 AM GMT
    Just a topic to throw out there because i'm curious. Do gay men perceive female beauty different from straight/bisexual men???

    In other words, is the gay man's definition of a "beautiful woman" different from that of a straight man??

    Seeing as how a woman isn't really an object of sexual gratification to gay men. i think the definition of a "beautiful woman" will be different in that it doesn't focus as much on "T&A" or other blatantly physical features relating to female fertility as it does on how a woman carries herself, confidence, fashion sense.

    What do the rest of you think???


    In that case, a subtopic.....is the criteria for a "hot guy" very much different for gay men than it is for straight women???
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    Aug 29, 2009 5:20 AM GMT
    well, if we assume that straight men like blond bimbos with curvy buts or anorexic models.... then yeah, my idea of a beautiful woman is quite different icon_biggrin.gif

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    Aug 29, 2009 12:32 PM GMT
    Typically for me yes.

    and for all the chicks that both my straight friends and I think are beautiful, after discussion we often times find that I appreciate her beauty for a completely different reason.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 29, 2009 12:50 PM GMT
    Yes I think that the gay man's interpretation of beauty is different because of social conditioning
    A str8 man cannot say what he truly thinks is beautiful because he might be conceived as being "faggy"
    So a lot of what we as a society can say is beautiful is limited by our internalized homophobia
    Only until recently in Western culture could we look at the male figure and face and call it beautiful
    Homosexual men on the other hand are freer to say what it truly beautiful or not
    Which is why we have dominated the arts for so long
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    Aug 29, 2009 2:45 PM GMT
    Everyone's idea of beauty is different. What is gaudy trash to one man is transcendent aesthetics to another.
  • JP85257

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    Aug 29, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    Depends on how much liquor Ive had.
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    Aug 29, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Sedative saidEveryone's idea of beauty is different. What is gaudy trash to one man is transcendent aesthetics to another.

    Yeah, but a nice rack is a nice rack.


    You've never seen a wet t-shirt contest with flatchested chicks then? icon_wink.gif
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    Aug 29, 2009 5:53 PM GMT
    I can only speak for myself, not for every gay or straight man. Any man or woman, gay or staight, is beautiful when the physical characteristics match a winning personality.

    Someone who is "hot" may be a great shag in bed and nice eye candy, but it doesn't mean they are beautiful, or for that matter, sexy.
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    Aug 29, 2009 6:00 PM GMT
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    Aug 29, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
    A couple of weeks ago one of Jezebel's writers caused a bit of controversy by claiming that gay men are to blame for many of the problems in the fashion business, particulary clothes that aren't figure-flattering.

    You can read a little more about the incident here:

    http://auntiefashion.wordpress.com/2009/08/15/the-blame-game/

    The worst part about her sweeping generalizations regarding gay men was that she didn't even look around to see what gay men were looking at. Richie Rich, for instance, will use celebrities like Jenna Jameson and Pamela Anderson on his runway, while Francisco Costa of Calvin Klein prefers emaciated teenagers. Then you'll see a show by a designer like Jean Paul Gaultier that uses young models, old models, established models, trannies, girls he cast off the street, boys dressed as girls, girls dressed as boys. What he considers to be beautiful is as broad ranging as the notion of beauty itself.

    Just like Sedative said above me, "Everyone's idea of beauty is different," including the ideas of that remarkably diverse group, homosexual men.
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    Aug 29, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
    That artical really pissed me off! expeically wen these ''celebrities'' know fcuk all about their talking about!
    I personally feel gay men are the right guys to have at the helm of the fashion industry-expecially for wemans collections. They offer a non bias view on this segment of fashion. Unlike heterosexul men, they can look at a female and dress her without sexualizing her.. True, weman do tend to know what weman want, but will they produce disigns that are objective, rather than something that they would like to wear themselfs?
    For them to claim ''the absence of womanly curves on the runway, and the hideous, figure-assaulting trend that is the tent dress'' is ignorance. Has she never heard of John Galliano and his love of the Bias Cut? Galliano is a gay man, the head of Dior and for one to claim that gay men in fashion have no concept of dressing weman.

    Also id like to say that if fashion was all about ''tits' im sure she was well as others would be compaining about how weman are being dressed as 'objects' and how wrong it would be to sexualise them, bringing in sexism and so forth.

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    Aug 29, 2009 6:55 PM GMT
    I understand what you're asking (and I think it's been answered pretty well here) but would like to add some thoughts to this (in regards to why so many of us are not finding anyone; why gay men typically are not interested in other gay men and go right for straight guys)...so many gay guys conduct their lives as would a female would - in terms of body image, eating, shape, etc., and if that's what feels good, by all means, do it, but we are so focused on what WE as individuals are attracted to (straight, masculine men who are confident and don't try so hard) that we forget that the reason why not many gay guys find other gay guys attractive or interesting is because of this - nobody wants a man who really wishes/thinks he is a girl. But if so many gay guys act this way (and the harder they do this str8 acting bit the more obvious it bleeds out) then you don't get it - yea, it's important to be yourself. But also you have to remember that other gay men have interests, tastes and attractions too, and 90% of the time they're going after the same thing you are - which is the impossible - a masculine str8 guy who happens to be gay. Thanks to the internet porn sites that show straight college guys doing just about anything to get money (for drugs or gambling or whatever fix they're on; it's never 'just for kicks)...we get this false illusion that these guys are all over the place in gayland and they are hardly anywhere to be found.

    So we have all these image-conscious gay men who are great to talk to, but if it's a masculine top str8 acting guy you are looking for, you've got about a 15-20 year long wait behind everyone else looking for the same thing. If we are so concerned about beauty and image, then why are we all doing the same thing rather than doing something that would evenly match us up with other gay men? Does this make any sense? It does us no good if almost every gay guy out there looks, walks, talks, dresses, and likes the exact same things (whether we admit it or not, I see it all the time) - think if men and women were THIS much alike - there would be nothing exotic about them as individuals - so why would they even want to get to know each other in the first place? I think that's what happened with us. We already know what we're getting when we talk to each other because we've seen it a million times before. And if that's 'just who we are' then that might explain why our relationships just don't work or never happen in the first place (not for everyone but for a lot)...