Hanging of Bush and Blair

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    Aug 30, 2009 4:28 AM GMT
    FYI... They think you all should hang too!!!


    So I guess you are no better than they are now are you???

    Until you have access to all the intel that they did (faulty or not.. all presidents get good and bad intel)

    Also I'm sure you would say as I would the following:

    According to an article is not a creditable source!!

    Remember according to articles they said Sadamn had WMD!!!

    Also, with your reasoning then you would dissagree with the use of the Atomic Bomb in WWII because of all the killing of innocent civilians as well!!!

    AND ACTUALLY THAT DID ALOT MORE DAMAGE THAN THE ENTIRE IRAQI WAR!!

    But it was done to prevent anywhere from 250,000-1.5 million U.S. Deaths!! So do I hate murder yes.. would I rather it be them than us.. YES.. is that wrong.. no and here's why:

    would you invade someones home and murder them if you thought they were going to do the same to you!!

    Would you torture people innocent or not if you thought they had information that would save your family's life??
    You would say yes (otherwise you really are fucked up because it's your family)

    So what bush and blair did, I thank them for being proactive instead of lazy and passive like clinton did his entire presidency (fyi he had a drome that could have killed Osama 3 different times in his presidency and decided not to) And also Bush was lazy as well in the first 9 months of his presidency, at least he did something about it!!!

    What's Obama doing?? trying to get healthcare passed when we are in a massive deficit (that they are both to blame for, the excuse he inherited it is BULLSHIT.)

    I inherited bad genes from my family, does that give me an excuse to make it worse by feeding my mouth and not exercising? HELL N0.. it makes me more determined than ever to prevent that shit from happening to me!! Something Obama should cut the crap and save our budget!!!


    So all you people who judge Blair and Bush... GET OVER IT.. think about what they had to go through.. (do I agree with some of their decisions.. NOO.) but I give them credit and so should you for being protective of their respective countries!!!

    You all hate when people judge you so stop judging them and get over it!!

    And for all those who say I am judging Obama, I am not!! I am saying what a responsible person should do when they Inherit anything!!!

    so seriously guys.. GET OVER IT AND FIX WHAT'S BROKEN NOW!!!

    We also freed an entire nation from the hell they went through for decades!! it cost them lives yes!!! BUT SO DOES EVERY OTHER REVOLUTION INCLUDING OUR OWN!!!

    but now they are free and they are rebuilding and putting together a somewhat decent country.. IT TOOK US DECADES to figure our shit out!! they've been free for what? 6 years and they are making great progress!!


    UGG you all frustrate me when you are all so ignorant and judgemental of others when you want people to stop judging you!!! PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH AND WANT FROM OTHERS!! until you do that... You won't ever gain the respect of other people!!

  • Mepark

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    Aug 30, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
    leojock1986 saidFYI... They think you all should hang too!!!

    We also freed an entire nation from the hell they went through for decades!! it cost them lives yes!!! BUT SO DOES EVERY OTHER REVOLUTION INCLUDING OUR OWN!!!

    but now they are free and they are rebuilding and putting together a somewhat decent country.. IT TOOK US DECADES to figure our shit out!! they've been free for what? 6 years and they are making great progress!!



    Do you know what a revolution is? we invaded Iraq and we forced them into a NEVER ending civil war. (AT LEAST SADDAM KEPT THE SUNNI AND SHIA UNDER CONTROL). Whether Americans like it or not or want to believe it or refuse to, Iraq was a STABLE country led by a dictator, but so is Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and many others. Under Bush's premise, we should be invading half the countries of the Middle East.
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    Aug 30, 2009 10:43 PM GMT
    Mepark saidUnder Bush's premise, we should be invading half the countries of the Middle East.

    Well actually, that WAS the neo-Con premise. Once Iraq embraced democracy, the other Islamic nations would fall one-by-one to pro-Western concepts.

    It was the Vietnam house of cards scenario all over again, except this time we WANTED it to happen, cause we are the good guys this go-around, and the cards falling represent the bad guys, versus the way it was presented 45 years ago, when we were trying to keep the cards standing.

    Problem is, it didn't happen then, and it didn't happen now. You'd think by now the right-wingers would figure out that they NEVER get it right.
  • creature

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    Aug 30, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    leojock1986,

    Where do we begin...

    First of all, not all articles declared that Saddam has WMDs.

    Secondly, and maybe this should have been the first point, if you are saying "according to the articles" is not a credible source, why are you bringing it up as if it is one.

    Third. Please don't begin a sentence with "with your reasoning," because it is apparent you don't understand people's reasoning. And our reasons for entering WWII is nothing like our reasons for the Iraq War. Nothing.

    Fourth. You do not preemptively kill someone by going to their house and doing the deed if you thought they were going to kill you. What you do is pick up the phone and dial the police. Do you need their number? It's really easy to remember. If you preemptively killed someone, you would be imprisoned for murder. It's a crime.

    Fifth. Once again, you don't go around torturing innocent people because you believe they have information to save your family's life. You're in criminal territory. It appears you have forgotten the United States has laws to protect the innocent. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Don't forget that. Write it down and tape it to your monitor.

    Sixth. Civilization in the territory now known as Iraq has existed for thousands of years. The people have survived thus far, so I think it's evident that the best change for the country comes from the people within. Not outside interest.

    And if you're not convinced, then look over at what's been happening in Africa, and what has been the cause of so much strife in that continent, thanks to self-serving interests of external forces.
  • GQjock

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    Aug 30, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
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    How Strangely revisionist and ignorant all at the same time

    Remember according to articles they said Sadamn had WMD!!!
    and according to many others we knew he did not
    You also might want to take note that according to Bush and Blair THEMSELVES they knew he had no WMD's
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jun2009/blai-j26.shtml

    Also, with your reasoning then you would dissagree with the use of the Atomic Bomb in WWII because of all the killing of innocent civilians as well!!!
    Apples and Atomic Bombs ..... The use of the Atomic Bombs on Japan were not based on lies
    and my disagreement on using them has no bearing on whether more than 100,000 dead Iraqis is a war crime or not

    it was done to prevent anywhere from 250,000-1.5 million U.S. Deaths!!
    And this is based on what Republican Tooth Fairy nonsense?

    would you invade someones home and murder them if you thought they were going to do the same to you!!
    Would you torture people innocent or not if you thought they had information that would save your family's life??

    Ahem ...... I can say that right now about the guy down the street
    but that don't make it right
    And as we already know those claims WERE based on lies and misinformation

    proactive?
    Presidential Daily Briefing
    bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US
    August 6, 2001
    http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/terrorism/80601pdb.html

    Video shows Bush got explicit Katrina warning
    President, Chertoff were clearly told of storm’s dangers numerous times
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11627394/

    What's Obama doing?? trying to get healthcare passed
    As opposed to getting us into a war based on a lie THAT GOT US INTO THIS TERRIBLE DEBT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
    I'll take the healthcare Please
    If you haven't noticed we here in America have the most expensive and the least distributed healthcare to it's citizens in the entire industrialized world




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    Aug 31, 2009 9:24 PM GMT
    From leojock's profile:
    seriously where are the good guys who are actually looking for substance and who want to find a connection with someone???



    BY THE WAY I FOUND IT!!! sorry boys I am taken by the best man in the world icon_smile.gif don't give up!! if your looking you'll find em eventually!!


    Schizo much? LOL.
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    Aug 31, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    All of DC is worthless in my book!

    So now what?