Is it really that difficult...

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    Sep 01, 2009 6:38 AM GMT
    to use proper grammar when posting or sticking to the topics being posted?

    I am fine with a misspelled word or the lack of a punctuation mark/capitalization here and there. These are normal mistakes and are bound to happen. I also understand the use of pop culture shortcuts (i.e u for you or r for are). I am not a grammar Nazi, but misusing their for there or to for too is really distracting (just a couple of many that I have noticed).

    I also have a pet peeve about people posting irrelevant or relevant, but off topic replies to the original post. If you want to talk about another topic post a new topic.

    Had to rant for a bit. I have a feeling I am going to get roasted for this one. Rant now over. Let the flambe begin!
  • Webster666

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    Sep 01, 2009 6:48 AM GMT
    Proper grammar comes easily to some, not so easily to others. Then, there are people who have learned English as a second language. And, some people are in a hurry and just get sloppy. I notice the errors, but I don't let them bother me. I care more about what the guy has to say than about his grammatical errors.
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    Sep 01, 2009 7:01 AM GMT
    bsskate saidto use proper grammar when posting or sticking to the topics being posted?

    I am fine with a misspelled word or the lack of a punctuation mark/capitalization here and there. These are normal mistakes and are bound to happen. I also understand the use of pop culture shortcuts (i.e u for you or r for are). I am not a grammar Nazi, but misusing their for there or to for too is really distracting (just a couple of many that I have noticed).

    I also have a pet peeve about people posting irrelevant or relevant, but off topic replies to the original post. If you want to talk about another topic post a new topic.

    Had to rant for a bit. I have a feeling I am going to get roasted for this one. Rant now over. Let the flambe begin!


    So, the common, easy to fix ones (punctuation, 'u", "r", "2") don't annoy you.... but the easily confusable ones do? Not everyone has the same educational background or literacy level. I'd sooner dismiss the "their" vs "there" than the lazy slang, which does hinder my ability to smoothly read it. With context - you can instantly replace "their" and "you're" in your head.

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    Sep 01, 2009 7:03 AM GMT
    In fear of offending you, I shall keep this short and sweet!

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    Sep 01, 2009 7:03 AM GMT
    I learned English as a second language and I am doing my best to not make mistakes. Not only because it makes a bad impression, but also out of respect for myself. Especially when I am using my mother language, I am very strict about the grammar rules. People should really care more about the way speak/write, because that says so much about them...
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    Sep 01, 2009 7:13 AM GMT
    Sometimes I purposely let errors go by, even create them, in defiance of the rules!
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    Sep 01, 2009 7:48 AM GMT
    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, SPELLING ERRORS MAKE YOU!
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    Sep 01, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    bleh...what I hate is guyz with backhare that pokes out the top of there shirtz...ugh.
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    Sep 01, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
    ol bsskate, some feel that the errors are a mark of their uniqueness online.
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    Sep 01, 2009 2:27 PM GMT
    If I can still understand it easily,
    and they actually had something to say,
    I overlook it.

    function over form
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    Sep 01, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    Sometimes I feel the need to capitalize, sometimes I don't. As a whole I am not that bothered by others grammar, usage, or syntax errors. For the most part I feel like people are not doing it intentionally.
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    Sep 01, 2009 2:36 PM GMT
    bsskate saidto use proper grammar when posting or sticking to the topics being posted?

    I am fine with a misspelled word or the lack of a punctuation mark/capitalization here and there. These are normal mistakes and are bound to happen. I also understand the use of pop culture shortcuts (i.e u for you or r for are). I am not a grammar Nazi, but misusing their for there or to for too is really distracting (just a couple of many that I have noticed).

    I also have a pet peeve about people posting irrelevant or relevant, but off topic replies to the original post. If you want to talk about another topic post a new topic.

    Had to rant for a bit. I have a feeling I am going to get roasted for this one. Rant now over. Let the flambe begin!
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    Sep 01, 2009 2:40 PM GMT
    JakeBenson saidIN SOVIET RUSSIA, SPELLING ERRORS MAKE YOU!







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    Sep 01, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    As someone who went back to grad school and studied linguistics, I have something to say about grammar.

    No matter how upset you get about the lack of grammar in people's writing, some people will continue to do it. The reasons may be varied like: defiance, using a particular pattern to establish solidarity in a certain group, using the same pattern to establish difference from a group, to exclude others, to include others, etc. This is a natural extension of language.


    Language is not something that is static. Language changes and evolves. The English grammar that we follow now is not the same grammar followed a few hundred years ago. If those people were around today , they may say that 'you dont know your grammar' .

    Be that as it may, every language has a standard form that a particular society holds as 'prestigious'. In those cases, you are judged and allowed to succeed in life based on your mastery of that form. That prestigious form, though, is nothing more than the most popular dialectical form. Hypothetically, If the Queen's English included 'yall" , "yous guys", slang, and less formal language usage , then we would all be jumping to use the same terms and patterns as well.

    I understand that it gets in your crawl that people do not use correct English grammar or at least sometimes show that they have the capability to use English in that standard form . Realize that this is partially a social site. People in social situations tend to use a language register that is less formal. That less formal register will open the door to the fact that some people will not use that standard form of the language. Therefore , rules may not always be followed.



  • JP85257

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    Sep 01, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    My main ones:

    Your, You're
    to, too, two
    their, they're, there

    OY!!

    I won't even respond to an email if any of those mistakes are made.
  • pav1

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    Sep 01, 2009 3:28 PM GMT
    I loath the misuse of proper grammer. Especially when speaking. Poor grammer makes one sound uneducated
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    Sep 01, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    It sure is a nice day out today. Heading out to play some tennis!
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    Sep 01, 2009 3:36 PM GMT
    I make up my own grammar and spelling as I go along. It doesn't bother the people that mean anything to me, and it pisses off the folks that don't. And that's a good thing.
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    Sep 01, 2009 3:36 PM GMT
    i was an english major myself, and i generally support the idea of correct usage. but i'm also a terrible typist, plus stopping to add capital letters seems time consuming. I mean, it's the internet... the rules are lax here, whether we like it or not.
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Sep 01, 2009 4:03 PM GMT
    I see a difference between three major classes: typos, people not knowing that something's wrong (particular people who are clearly not fluent in the language), and deliberate misuse. Only the last category is irritating to me. On this site, presumably you are using an actual computer, complete with a keyboard. If you are really so busy that the two extra keystrokes to type "are" instead of "r" or "you" instead of "u" are time that you can't afford, then you probably can't afford the time for the abbreviated comment either. In a similar vein, words are spelled with letters, not numbers. There is also one particular poster who drives me insane with his instance of using "da" for "the" and similar ridiculous affectations.

    Mistakes on they're/their/there, weather/whether, and two/to/too are annoying from professional writers, but aren't worth complaining about in comments and forums on a site like this. They're simple slips of the finger, and even people who know the difference will occasionally type the wrong one. Things like "Actually HANG da all da DUMMIES who voted 4 this ass-wipe" (a real comment on another thread) are something else.
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    Sep 01, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    JP85257 saidMy main ones:

    Your, You're
    to, too, two
    their, they're, there

    OY!!

    I won't even resond to an email if any of those mistakes are made.


    pav1 saidI loath the misuse of proper grammer. Especially when speaking. Poor grammer makes one sound uneducated


    I agree. Much better to sound pretentious than unedumacated.


    Haha nice catch.
    When people skip a letter like "resonse" it doesn't annoy me because I had a sketchy keyboard at one time that would always skip a letter. But I do hate it when people don't spell correctly or don't use grammar correctly. Coming from a guy that NEVER spelled things right, I can say it takes very little time and effort to learn. Or it's called dictionary.com if you're lazy. You just have to practice EVERYwhere, I mostly got better using AIM.
    It's unprofessional to use slang words like "u" and "r." You wouldn't use words like that in a research project or your resume.
    "But dude... this site isn't school or a job interview!"
    Well, practice makes perfect, and not willing to practice is why apathy is the leading cause of rejection in job interviews/offers.
    And come on people... if you don't know the difference between your and you're or there and their and they're, I think a suit against your elementary school should be your next move because it's THAT basic and THAT embarrassing.
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    Sep 01, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
    JakeBenson saidIN SOVIET RUSSIA, SPELLING ERRORS MAKE YOU!


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    Sep 01, 2009 6:17 PM GMT
    tommysguns2000 saidbleh...what I hate is guyz with backhare that pokes out the top of there shirtz...ugh.


    Wut is up wit dat? Why r sum peeps just so ignunt bout there back hur?icon_eek.gif
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    Sep 01, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
    theantijock said
    JP85257 saidMy main ones:

    Your, You're
    to, too, two
    their, they're, there

    OY!!

    I won't even resond to an email if any of those mistakes are made.


    pav1 saidI loath the misuse of proper grammer. Especially when speaking. Poor grammer makes one sound uneducated


    I agree. Much better to sound pretentious than unedumacated.

    Excuse me. My "P" does not work every time I hit it.
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    Sep 01, 2009 6:42 PM GMT
    Here's an interesting article related to this topic.

    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/15/2227256

    Scrambled words are legible as long as first and last letters are in place.

    'Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. ceehiro.'