God Help Virginia

  • Mepark

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    Sep 01, 2009 8:12 AM GMT
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090831/pl_politico/26630_2
  • GQjock

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    Sep 01, 2009 10:24 AM GMT
    What freakin' college accepted a thesis like that? icon_eek.gif
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    Sep 01, 2009 10:44 PM GMT
    GQjock saidWhat freakin' college accepted a thesis like that? icon_eek.gif

    CBN University----I mean, Regent University. None other than Pat Robertson's baby. I'm pretty sure they still have no accredited degrees. It's in Virginia Beach, where I'm from. For kicks, when I was considering graduate schools, I pulled one of their applications, which asked for my interpretation of a specific piece of scripture.
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    Sep 01, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    at first glance, i thought the title of this thread was 'God help Vagina'.....either way...icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 01, 2009 10:48 PM GMT
    So glad I moved far, FAR away from the east coast. Now if only the west would secede!
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    Sep 01, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
    I spent all my life in Virginia. I'm getting out ASAP
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    Sep 01, 2009 11:05 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidI spent all my life in Virginia. I'm getting out ASAP


    Again, my tiredness and hunger has caused random dyslexia and i thought that read Vagina.....
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    Sep 01, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    This one is 'more' informative.
    http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-mcdonnel-thesis,0,5969511.story


    At least he treats them all as equals:
    Republicans must shield traditional, heterosexual two-parent families from the effects of abortion, feminism, welfare, "cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators."
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    Sep 01, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    haha I pass regent university every time i get off of the interstate when i visit home. But yes, it is Pat Robertson's baby, and i believe their law program has a good reputation. I have never met anyone that goes there, though. lol. As far as the story goes, the paper was 20 years ago, times change - but not a fan :O
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    Sep 01, 2009 11:57 PM GMT
    I would judge him on what he has done in the last 20 years rather than focus on a paper he wrote 20 years ago. Maybe he is a nut, maybe not. First I have heard of him. Be intereresting to see who he is now.
  • Ironman4U

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    Sep 02, 2009 12:05 AM GMT
    I realize that Virginia has some conservative a**holes, BUT please do not judge MY STATE by some of its people (or in this case...one idiot). I'm sure you can find an equally heinous example in all 50 states unfortunately!
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    Sep 02, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    Ironman4U saidI realize that Virginia has some conservative a**holes, BUT please do not judge MY STATE by some of its people (or in this case...one idiot). I'm sure you can find an equally heinous example in all 50 states unfortunately!

    Your state is about to elect this "one idiot" as your Governor, with his double-digit lead in the polls. How do you exonerate your state from that?
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    Sep 02, 2009 1:12 AM GMT
    20 year old paper proves this man was an asshole.

    chances are, this man STILL is an asshole

    Thing is, i refuse to judge him solely on something he wrote 20 years ago (Disgusting and vile as it was) - i'd be more interested in his (real) views over the past few years.

    Views DO and CAN change.

    (note, i know NOTHING about him and would prolly vote dem over rep as a general basis, but still think a 20 year old document is hardly fair, if something similar happened to a democrat, we'd all cry foul)
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    Sep 02, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidYour state is about to elect this "one idiot" as your Governor, with his double-digit lead in the polls. How do you exonerate your state from that?


    Say, adopt any babies recently?
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    Sep 02, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    I live in Virginia and, personally, I am looking forward to the Democratic candidate losing. Not because I favor the Republican. But because I think the Democrats need to lose in order to remind them that they have ignored Gay Rights and we have been giving them the thin margin of victory in the recent elections. Let the Democratic loss in Virginia be a wake-up call to Obama and the national party. And the election of a Republican governor in Virginia wont hurt gays any. They cant do anymore to us and the Democrats havent done anything for us. So let the sons o' bitches lose.
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    Sep 02, 2009 2:19 AM GMT
    jprichva saidToo late for that poke, Zombs. The law was struck down.


    The actions of a single judge do not exonerate an entire state!
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    Sep 02, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
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    jprichva saidToo late for that poke, Zombs. The law was struck down.

    The actions of a single judge do not exonerate an entire state!

    I agree. And that gay adoption ban in Florida has been overturned in lower courts before, only to be upheld on state or Federal appeal. It's entirely possible, and indeed likely, the same thing will happen again.

    But what is your point? That Florida is a red-neck state, full of anti-gay bigots? This is not news, and I never claimed it was otherwise. Only a few pockets, like here in Fort Lauderdale/Wilton Manors, Key West and parts of Orlando and Tampa are gay-friendly.

    Rather, I disputed the statement that the Republican candidate for VA governor was merely "one idiot" and non-representative of THAT state. I'm glad to hear jprichva say his double-digit lead has declined to 7%. It remains to be seen how the election will turn out.
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    Sep 02, 2009 2:39 AM GMT
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    jprichva saidToo late for that poke, Zombs. The law was struck down.

    The actions of a single judge do not exonerate an entire state!

    Well, if you want to get technical about it, the law was passed in 1977, during the heyday of the frenzy over Anita Bryant's crusade. You can't exactly pin that on the current state of the state, either. Probably more than half of the people who voted in that election are dead. (Maybe more, considering the mean age in Florida----and the age of the mean.)

    Except that Florida passed an anti-gay marriage state constitutional amendment this past November, 2008. That wasn't Anita Bryant's doing.

    In fact, it even denies civil unions, and any benefits to cohabitating couples of either sex, a potential hardship to certain classes of straight elderly men & women. But in their zeal to hurt gays, Republican lawmakers may have hurt straight elderly retirees more. Oh, well, the Bible made them do it, so it's OK.
  • steveo703

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    Sep 02, 2009 2:44 AM GMT
    First of all this whole thing is kind of rude an insulting.

    Whether the Republican candidate or the Democratic candidate wins in november will have zero effect on gay rights in Virginia.

    Also, did you ever consider the pressures on a student writing a 93 page thesis, trying to obtain a masters degree from Regent, who is there because that is where he could afford to go??

    I agree with whoever said we should judge him on his merits in the house, and as attorney general, but thankfully for our Commonwealth the original poster will have no say.

    Also, we don't know anything about Deeds other than he is a yokle and is all of a sudden very pro-abortion rights.
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    Sep 02, 2009 2:45 AM GMT
    p.s. the NRA endorsed Deeds over McDonnell in '05 :-D
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    Sep 02, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    Hey now, don't pick on my state. It's finally a blue state! icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 02, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
    Surfwarrior saidat first glance, i thought the title of this thread was 'God help Vagina'.....either way...icon_biggrin.gif


    I did the same thing. lol.

    Actually, come to think of it, I was born via cesarean. Hehe. I wouldnt go near the thing even at birth. lmfao.
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    Sep 02, 2009 3:19 AM GMT
    steveo703 said
    Also, we don't know anything about Deeds other than he is a yokle and is all of a sudden very pro-abortion rights.
    We know that he beat the two men with better name recognition (Jim Moran and Terry McAuliffe).
    Why don't you know more? You could read. You could be a fan on facebook (for the info, not because you're actually a fan) or follow him (and McDonnell for that matter) on Twitter.
  • steveo703

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    Sep 02, 2009 5:15 AM GMT

    1969er said
    steveo703 said
    Also, we don't know anything about Deeds other than he is a yokle and is all of a sudden very pro-abortion rights.
    We know that he beat the two men with better name recognition (Jim Moran and Terry McAuliffe).
    Why don't you know more? You could read. You could be a fan on facebook (for the info, not because you're actually a fan) or follow him (and McDonnell for that matter) on Twitter.

    perhaps I misspoke. I know plenty about Deeds and there is nothing really distinguishable about him. He won the primary because he got the Post endorsement. The Post wants the Democrat to win. Moran is too liberal for Virginia, McAuliffe is just a tool, so they went with Deeds.
    Unless I was an NRA member, cared about abortion, or from the Appalachians I see no reason to support the guy.
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    Sep 02, 2009 6:34 AM GMT
    DiVer saidhaha I pass regent university every time i get off of the interstate when i visit home. But yes, it is Pat Robertson's baby, and i believe their law program has a good reputation. I have never met anyone that goes there, though. lol. As far as the story goes, the paper was 20 years ago, times change - but not a fan :O


    Hey Noah (we have a mutual friend Skye). My dad went to Regent and got his Juris Doctorate there.

    The paper by McDonnell is "gotcha" politics. He wrote it several years ago as a college student. I certainly wouldn't stand by any of my "worldly" views I held back then. That is a naive age.

    That being said, we need to look at who McDonnell is now. Does his record show he still holds those views? I would venture to say Yes!

    I am more confused though by how McDonnell is running on the exact same platform Terry McAuliffe (TMac) was running during the primary ("Jobs governor", wind mills, responsible off shore drilling [what an oxymoron], et cetera).

    For those of you involved in VA politics. I am startled that no one has called the BS alarm on McDonnell for this one. It's TMac's play book page by page.

    I don't care what you wrote 20 years ago. I am more concerned with what you have done over all in your career in public service, and I am strongly believe on that basis Deeds is the candidate to back (although I still don't believe he is the strongest choice...TMac would have done better).

    Deeds needs to come out stronger. I don't know about the rest of VA but in my region McDonnell is flexing way more campaign funding than Deeds. McDonnells commercials are almost constant... meanwhile all I get from Deeds are Facebook invites to high school rallies in Richmond.

    Woot. Deeds. Woot. <---- Strong sarcastic tone!