No carbs after lunch..

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    Sep 01, 2009 2:17 PM GMT

    ..is a message I've got in my head, from somewhere.
    True, False, somewhere in between?

    And whilst I have your attention.. I'm also trying to deal with the sweet craving I get, predictably, about 3pm in the afternoon and then about half an hour after dinner. I'm figuring a couple of little squares of dark chocolate would be ok (certainly more ok then the little bowl of icecream I succumb to at night).

    Thoughts?
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  • MSUBioNerd

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    Sep 01, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
    I've yet to see any scientific support for the notion that eating late at night causes weight gain or fat deposition differently than eating at other times in the day, and I've seen a couple of paper refute that idea. Although it sounds logical that eating shortly before going to sleep would lead your body to convert the calories to fat because you don't have a chance to bun them off first, the data doesn't support that. The problem with late night snacking, for most people who have problems with it, is that they end up eating more total for the day if they do so. One hypothesis is that when people get tired their willpower weakens, and they're more likely to overindulge.

    Also, you're trying to bulk up. It is extremely difficult to pack on muscle without adding some fat at the same time. If the extra mass is important to you, pay more attention to that at first (I'm not saying that you should go eat a gallon of ice cream, but you shouldn't be afraid of having pasta for dinner or a couple of squares of dark chocolate when you have a sugar craving), and you can worry about losing a couple of pounds of fat in a cutting phase later. But if you can't shake the notion that you need to be "good" even when dealing with your cravings--if you are simply craving something sweet, there are many types of fuit.
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    Sep 01, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
    r_Evolutionary_boy said
    ..is a message I've got in my head, from somewhere.
    True, False, somewhere in between?

    And whilst I have your attention.. I'm also trying to deal with the sweet craving I get, predictably, about 3pm in the afternoon and then about half an hour after dinner. I'm figuring a couple of little squares of dark chocolate would be ok (certainly more ok then the little bowl of icecream I succumb to at night).

    Thoughts?
    Other suggestions?




    The craving is your blood sugar dropping and your body telling you to eat. EAT.
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    Sep 01, 2009 5:32 PM GMT
    What MSUBioNerd said.
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    Sep 01, 2009 5:50 PM GMT
    Anyone ever read the Carbohydrate's Addict book?

    Basically you'll cut out carbs for two meals of the day, and your third you can have "normal" meal. That way controlling the insulin levels?

    B.S.?

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    Sep 01, 2009 5:52 PM GMT
    sdn8 saidAnyone ever read the Carbohydrate's Addict book?

    Basically you'll cut out carbs for two meals of the day, and your third you can have "normal" meal. That way controlling the insulin levels?

    B.S.?



    In order to have nice even insulin, and blood sugar, levels you should eat small amounts of complex carbs at every meal. Low carb, intermediate carb, and no carb diets, make no sense, and should be avoided.
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    Sep 01, 2009 8:40 PM GMT
    r_Evolutionary_boy said
    ..is a message I've got in my head, from somewhere.
    True, False, somewhere in between?

    And whilst I have your attention.. I'm also trying to deal with the sweet craving I get, predictably, about 3pm in the afternoon and then about half an hour after dinner. I'm figuring a couple of little squares of dark chocolate would be ok (certainly more ok then the little bowl of icecream I succumb to at night).

    Thoughts?
    Other suggestions?




    You know Im with you. Total sweet addict. I just ate 2 cookies hahaha. But I found Kashi has some really great, and really healthy treats. Their cookies are awesome. Also have you tried the Klondike slim a bear ice cream bars and sandwhichs? YUM! The 1 is sugar free and low fat, 100 calories. Go get some!
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    Sep 04, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
    r_Evolutionary_boy said
    ..is a message I've got in my head, from somewhere.
    True, False, somewhere in between?


    Ignore the message re: no carbs after 3pm...

    The portion and type of carbs you consume, is more important than when you consume them. Approximately 50% of your daily energy intake should be from carbohydrates (they are also an important source of fibre and help with concentration/brain and kidney function).

    By type - avoid refined carbohydrates (e.g. white rice/bread) and opt for complex carbohydrates with a lower glycemic index (e.g. wholemeal breads/pastas or brown rice).

    As for portion size - this is very much dependent on your output/how much exercise you do. A lesser known fact is that too little carbohydrate can be really counter-productive - if you deprive your body of carbs, your muscles will try breaking down the proteins you eat until they begin acting like carbohydrates...

    A good RJ article that discusses this stuff a bit lives here: http://www.realjock.com/article/94/
  • jhelling

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    Sep 04, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
    Like everybody else said. Don't avoid carbs. Eating the right kind of carbs is important just like eating the right kinds of fats. If you work out or play a sport, which I'm assuming you do, carbohydrates are important for energy.
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    Sep 04, 2009 10:54 PM GMT
    Carbs are what your body utilizes for energy, you need to know what carbs are appropriate and when. The best time to eat simple sugar is right before a hard, endurance work out, or after a workout (along with some protein). Honey is a good alternative sweetener...the very dark chocolate (80% and above) also isn't high in refined sugar.

    The reason why people gain weight is that they don't see food for what it is...fuel. They eat for pleasure, they're not educated about what they eat and why they need it, or they'll go all day until they're starving and then they go on an eating binge. Because the body's in famine mode by the time dinner time rolls around, you're more likely to store the calories consumed as fat.
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    Sep 06, 2009 3:18 AM GMT
    EAT A PEACH!!

    Low on the Glycemic index scale.

    That is what you want to pay attention to.

    FOODS THAT DIGEST SLOWLY!!!



    What is the Glycemic Index?
    Not all carbohydrate foods are created equal, in fact they behave quite differently in our bodies. The glycemic index or GI describes this difference by ranking carbohydrates according to their effect on our blood glucose levels. Choosing low GI carbs - the ones that produce only small fluctuations in our blood glucose and insulin levels - is the secret to long-term health reducing your risk of heart disease and diabetes and is the key to sustainable weight loss.

    http://www.glycemicindex.com/
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    Sep 06, 2009 6:56 AM GMT

    Thanks for these responses guys, they're helpful.
    Good to know that I'm on the right track then and needn't feel guilty - I usually eat brown rice or brown pasta, couscous or whole grains likely barley.

    Especially appreciate the low GI link.

    Now that I know that I'm on the right track with my diet, it makes it clear to me that I need to focus on upping my cardio. That I can do..