Need some expaining of definition training.

  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 02, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
    I do weight training 4 times a week for about 90 minutes.

    Should I still lift the heaviest I can and do 6-8 repetitions or should I lower it so that I can do 10-12 repetitions. Many sites advise one or the other, for now I'm more keen on lifting as heavy as I can, but still I would like for some of you here with far more experience to help me out on this one. I've also added ab workouts 3 times per week, which I mostly neglected during bulking phaseicon_redface.gif. Should I change someting else in my exercise, add some cardio?

    About food, I'll lower carbs...
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 09, 2009 12:48 PM GMT
    Anyone?icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 09, 2009 1:21 PM GMT
    Mix it up. Some days or weeks do it one way and others do it the other way. The body benefits from surprising it.
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    Sep 09, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
    How you train depends on what your goals are. If you want to be strong you do one thing, if you want big arms you do another.....

    goals and then we can offer advice.
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 09, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    Well I've done bulking for three months and overall training is close to half a year (lost some fat first), my goals are to lose about 8 lbs of fat and keep the muscle that I've gained. I'm 174 cm and 85kg now, not that much fat (thanks to genetics!). Take into count that 85 for me is like 75 for someone else cause I probably have strong bones or sth, I always look skinnier that the scale tells. At 72 kg I was skinny as hell.
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    Sep 10, 2009 1:37 AM GMT
    yeah, but why do you train? Do you want it for sport or for aesthetics? If for sport, which one? If for aesthetics what do you want to look like in the end? You´re going to have to train differently if you want to improve your rock climbing or football game than if your goal is to loook like Arnie.

    Why would you lower carbs? What carbs are you going to lower? etc

    Capeesh?
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 10, 2009 9:53 AM GMT
    I'm not training for any sports. I'really don't want that huge bulky look, plus I think I'd have to weigh like 95 kg for that, which I don't want to. So, now I'm 85 kg and 174 cm, I'm thinking to slowly shrink down to 79-80 kg. I've always found that Ryan Reynolds in Blade: Trinity has had a great body, sth I'd like to have. Some examples: ryan_reynolds_99.jpg
    matthew-mcconaughey-400a052207.jpg

    People always tell me I'm really really big right now, but that it doesn't show in the pictures... So honestly, I've gotten a little confused as to where I want to be, not with the weight, but how my body looks.
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 10, 2009 9:58 AM GMT
    This is me at about 84 kg:

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    I've been getting really nasty comments that I'm very fat, coming from people who I don't think are saying it cause they're mean. So I dunno, am I blind or sth, but I don't see really huge arms and a fatass here... Same pants I wore when I was 72kg fit, they are tighter, but fit.
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    Sep 10, 2009 11:48 AM GMT
    OK
    (1) You´re cuter than I thought (lol)
    (2) You are NOT fat, but neither are you super ripped (I am in the same situation). Your friends need to learn about body dysmorphia. You look good.
    (3) Keep working out to grow, but watch the diet. Lower simple carbs PERHAPS.... sugar, fruit etc, but don´t drop carbs. That´s girl dieting and makes you look like a girl. You don´t need to do "bulk and cut": you can do "change the body fat weight to muscle weight".

    I´m about to start experimenting witha low weight high reps approach as this autumn I want to get bigger arms and chest so that I am more in proportion. If you want extra size that may be the way to go: more sets (4 or 5) and higher reps. i tried 4 sets of 15 yesterday. It´s tiring!

    Most important thing: you look good how you are. DOesn´t mean you can´t "improve", but DON´T, please don´t get caught up in other people´s body dysmorphia. It will just waste your energy and time. I´d rather be in a gym with someone who was thoughtful towards other users and had 10lb of excess fat
    than with someone who was "perfect" physically and a total jerk. In fact I can´t think of any purpose fo the perfect jerk apart from porn.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Sep 10, 2009 12:08 PM GMT
    ShagonTheHate saidI'm not training for any sports. I'really don't want that huge bulky look, plus I think I'd have to weigh like 95 kg for that, which I don't want to. So, now I'm 85 kg and 174 cm, I'm thinking to slowly shrink down to 79-80 kg. I've always found that Ryan Reynolds in Blade: Trinity has had a great body, sth I'd like to have. Some examples: ryan_reynolds_99.jpg
    matthew-mcconaughey-400a052207.jpg

    People always tell me I'm really really big right now, but that it doesn't show in the pictures... So honestly, I've gotten a little confused as to where I want to be, not with the weight, but how my body looks.


    ...isn't this Matthew McConachy?
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 10, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
    Lol, yes it is, I added him for some extra reference XD.
  • ShagonTheHate

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    Sep 10, 2009 1:03 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidOK
    (1) You´re cuter than I thought (lol)
    (2) You are NOT fat, but neither are you super ripped (I am in the same situation). Your friends need to learn about body dysmorphia. You look good.
    (3) Keep working out to grow, but watch the diet. Lower simple carbs PERHAPS.... sugar, fruit etc, but don´t drop carbs. That´s girl dieting and makes you look like a girl. You don´t need to do "bulk and cut": you can do "change the body fat weight to muscle weight".


    Thanks for (1)icon_redface.gif, (2) most of my friends do think that only the super skinny are hot, so I kinda understand why they're like that, still, I'm not afraid of bad comments, I'd just like them to be honest so that I can work on improving myself, they see me better that I do, but ok I can't change them anyway. About (3), I don't eat simple sugars (except after workout), perhaps that's the reason I was able to pack on about 12 kg in 3 months and not gain a lot of fat, I was eating somewhere about 3800 kcal daily now, so I was planning on lowering my evening carbs (some bread, oats I put in my evening shake and some whole wheat cookies) to the point that I slowly start having a 250kcal daily deficit, that would make me lose fat slowly. I'd keep the good fats and specially the protein so that I don't lose muscle.