BLACK OR WHITE- WHO IS THE BETTER ATHLETE?

  • jperfit

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    Sep 02, 2009 8:46 PM GMT
    I am doing an essay on athletic performance and wanted to get some feedback from various athletes with regards to whom you may think is the better athlete? blacks or whites, i am sure i will get a lot of mixed views but i would like to keep my opinions unbiased, b4 answering please be honest with yourselves and answer truthfully with an explanation on how you came to your conclusion, thanks.
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    Sep 02, 2009 10:12 PM GMT
    don't know about skin colour, but, Aussies.. per capita we out put more top performing athletes then any other country
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    Sep 03, 2009 5:47 AM GMT
    hmmm? well since I'm half black and white. I would say Biracial people are best at sports. YAY biracials!
  • jrs1

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    Sep 03, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
    what? blacks and whites are amazing athletes ... and so are chinese, japanese, polish, finnish, greek, papua new guinean ... even texans make great athletes ... this is ridonkulus.
  • silverfox

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    Sep 03, 2009 9:44 AM GMT
    I think you could be working on a better essay.

    A couple steps behind "Who is the superior race?"

    Divisive.
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    Sep 03, 2009 10:34 AM GMT
    silverfox1 saidI think you could be working on a better essay.

    A couple steps behind "Who is the superior race?"

    Divisive.

    Aussies

    Just to clear that one up icon_razz.gif

    *runs and hides from the peoples with forks, flames and the like*
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    Sep 03, 2009 11:17 AM GMT
    as if this thread is real...
  • jperfit

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    Sep 03, 2009 5:14 PM GMT
    jperfit saidI am doing an essay on athletic performance and wanted to get some feedback from various athletes with regards to whom you may think is the better athlete? blacks or whites, i am sure i will get a lot of mixed views but i would like to keep my opinions unbiased, b4 answering please be honest with yourselves and answer truthfully with an explanation on how you came to your conclusion, thanks.



    if you cant answer this with honesty then donot answer at all, this is important.
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    Sep 03, 2009 8:42 PM GMT
    Honestly I don't think race has anything to do with. Because of this I hoping that your project is more so a play on how individuals think rather than literally trying to argue that one race is better than another. To better assist you however and answer question:

    Honestly? I think it depends.

    I mean basketball we own

    Football is a bit iffy.

    But whites definitely take hockey and swimming.

    More whites are proficient with soccer than blacks also

    So when it comes down to it, for the most part, blacks seem to be very skilled athletes, but like many things, are limited in what they participate in.

    Mostly seeking out the sports of basketball, football and Running

    Its safe to say that Whites are skilled at more sports and thus it goes to them.

    So I say whites. Because though blacks are typically amazing at what we do, we don't have a vast range of what we do.

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    Sep 03, 2009 8:44 PM GMT
    jperfit said
    jperfit saidI am doing an essay on athletic performance and wanted to get some feedback from various athletes with regards to whom you may think is the better athlete? blacks or whites, i am sure i will get a lot of mixed views but i would like to keep my opinions unbiased, b4 answering please be honest with yourselves and answer truthfully with an explanation on how you came to your conclusion, thanks.



    if you cant answer this with honesty then donot answer at all, this is important.


    Wow, what school do you go to! Cant believe your soliciting opinions vs searching for facts. I call BS on this thread. Its not the skin color that matters, its how hard the individual works and trains at his/her sport.
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    Sep 03, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    Halfstep said
    I mean basketball we own

    Football is a bit iffy.

    More whites are proficient with soccer than blacks also



    No, blacks in Brazil and Africa are some really good contenders on soccer. And football? Please. We run that shit. The white quarterback may get all the glory in the media, but it is the offense and defense that are the real stars. And most of them are black.

    I see what the guy is saying. There is a theory out there that the black people today have been genetically-engineered to be the best athletes due to the selection in slavery of the best black women and men for reproduction.

    Go ahead, let's get this thread in flame mode. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 03, 2009 9:47 PM GMT
    Depends on how wide a net you want to cast for your sample size and in which sports and at what level of competition.....are bowlers and fishermen and dancers and baseball players, basketball players, hockey and soccer and cricket and volleyball and NASCAR drivers, etc all supposed to be counted the same as "an athlete"? Your research statement and hypothesis need to be better formed and more clearly stated. ...On the other hand, just look up any of the literature of the Third Reich, Hitler and Dr. Josef Mengele and the answer is that the only race that mattered or was pure enough or genetically gifted was the blue eyed, blond haired, fair skinned of the Aryan race..... I would really work on the research statement and your hypothesis, because all that "Aryan race" shit is worthless.....icon_cool.gif ...Oh, BTW...I'M BACK!icon_razz.gif
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    Sep 03, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
    jperfit saidI am doing an essay on athletic performance and wanted to get some feedback from various athletes with regards to whom you may think is the better athlete? blacks or whites, i am sure i will get a lot of mixed views but i would like to keep my opinions unbiased, b4 answering please be honest with yourselves and answer truthfully with an explanation on how you came to your conclusion, thanks.


    Historically from being oppressed by white society, I would think that black people could easily channel their oppression through physical activity and garner widespread support for black proteges in this category. Over fifty years ago one would think that it would be a lot harder to discriminate or interpret with bias against a black person if they could CLEARLY knock out their opponent in a boxing match and win, as opposed to outsmart a white person in an essay (which could be open to a myriad of biased interpretations when judging both essays).

    I'm not sure how accurate the differences between wihte and black athletes are today though. Since I see as many fat, lazy black people as I do white people, I'd assume neither race is a guarantee for a better athlete unless you can provide biological, cognitive, or kinesiological differences that give either a leading edge. Other than that, the only kind of evidence that would give black people an edge would be sociological.
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    Sep 04, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
    I'd say green. They're genetically engineered to be simply superior. So the next time you see a green man, BOW DOWN or be annihilated, earthling.
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    Sep 04, 2009 8:17 PM GMT
    I dont even know how to answer this question. How do you answer it? Race is not an issue. Its the person's training and dedication for that sport. I was fast when I first started running track. But I lost all the time because I wasnt fully trained. I i didnt know the basics. I had to work at it. Practice Practice Practice. I assume that is like many other people. Regardless of race.
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    Sep 04, 2009 11:45 PM GMT
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    Sep 05, 2009 1:53 AM GMT
    If you study the physiology and the endocrinology of the two races, you'll find that there are a number of indicators that lend advantage to black folks, among them being that they have a slightly different skeletal muscle system, and about 15% higher testosterone than white people. Many American Blacks are also products of some level of selective breeding programs. If you view it from the scientific perspective, Blacks are clearly superior.

    Viewing it from a cultural perspective, many Blacks see athletic achievement as a means to an end, and are, perhaps, more diligent in their efforts towards athletic achievement to achieve fame, fortune, and status.

    Strong, repeated, science, leans heavily on the side of black athletes.
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    Sep 05, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
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    jperfit said
    jperfit saidI am doing an essay on athletic performance and wanted to get some feedback from various athletes with regards to whom you may think is the better athlete? blacks or whites, i am sure i will get a lot of mixed views but i would like to keep my opinions unbiased, b4 answering please be honest with yourselves and answer truthfully with an explanation on how you came to your conclusion, thanks.



    if you cant answer this with honesty then donot answer at all, this is important.


    Wow, what school do you go to! Cant believe your soliciting opinions vs searching for facts. I call BS on this thread. Its not the skin color that matters, its how hard the individual works and trains at his/her sport.


    You are, very much in fact, quite in error. See above and research this on your own. Good science is color blind. Before you call "bullshit", do your research. Ignorance is very unbecoming.
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    Sep 05, 2009 1:59 AM GMT
    depends on the discipline and again race cannot be reduced to black and white. Be careful dude, a similar study in the past tried to show that white people were smarter than black people which of course is a total bullshit but apparently some have a problem with diversity...(translation: racists)
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    Sep 05, 2009 2:01 AM GMT
    wait, wait, wait... alot of you guys are getting upset and reading more into this than the op might have intended.

    i DO think race matters, and i DO think that there are alot of superior black athletes... however, i have a very specific reason for thinking this:

    economic opportunities.

    not all black athletes are from poor families; however, a disproportionate number are. this is also true of what is being aired on mtv and the radio. why? because blacks are intrinsically better at music and sports? no.

    my improvised hypothesis is that sports and entertainment offer poor blacks an opportunity to get out of their neighborhoods - i think that there are a great many black athletes and artists who are HUNGRY for success, because they aren't able to always find it in as many ways for social reasons. one commenter said something akin to blacks "ruling what we do, but not doing as much range." look at that statment: blacks are still oppressed in many ways. however, athletics/entertainment are open wide to them. everything else SHOULD be too; however, what should be and what is aren't the same.

    i believe that there are alot of cultural/economic/psychological issues surrounding "success," and i think the only reason blacks don't also own baseball/hockey/etc is because a rapper hasn't made it cool yet to do so. is the question fair? no. is reality fair? no. it is what it is. so yes, i think blacks are often "rulers" at what they do, but only because they have to do twice as much to get half as far.
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    Sep 05, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidIf you study the physiology and the endocrinology of the two races, you'll find that there are a number of indicators that lend advantage to black folks, among them being that they have a slightly different skeletal muscle system, and about 15% higher testosterone than white people. Many American Blacks are also products of some level of selective breeding programs. If you view it from the scientific perspective, Blacks are clearly superior.

    Viewing it from a cultural perspective, many Blacks see athletic achievement as a means to an end, and are, perhaps, more diligent in their efforts towards athletic achievement to achieve fame, fortune, and status.

    Strong, repeated, science, leans heavily on the side of black athletes.


    on other disciplines however white athletes do way better, like swimming, gymnastics, and pretty much all winter sports. In other disciplines like soccer, seems to be pretty even, however black guys own it on the athletics for sure.
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    Sep 06, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    I think chuckystud put an end to this conversation. There is your answer.