I'm getting a gun

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    Sep 04, 2009 10:18 AM GMT
    I have decided to finally get a gun. Since I'm gay, there are lots of crazy people out there who would like to see me hurt or even dead. I know self defense, but my fists won't have any effect against a knife or firearm. So I'm going to get a gun so I can protect myself and my loved ones. God forbid I'll EVER have to use it. I've done some research, and I have fallen in love with The Judge. It works well in close confines, and since its a revolver, has little chance of locking up. Does anyone have one of these or have any other suggestions?

    Jason

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    Sep 04, 2009 10:52 AM GMT
    What if you're too late to grab it? what are you gonna do then?
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    Sep 04, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    Swords and shurikens?
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    Sep 04, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    Sedative saidSwords and shurikens?


    Lol, maybe I should go old school and just learn how to throw a shuriken. Would be a lot cheaper than a gun/bullets.
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    Sep 04, 2009 8:11 PM GMT
    I hate guns. Held my first gun last weekend at my buddies bachelor party. We went to a gun range. My hands kept shaking. I didnt enjoy our outing at all. Guns kill people. All I could think of was my cousin being murdered by a GUN. I just dont see the purpose of them.
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    Sep 04, 2009 8:21 PM GMT
    gymguy1 saidI hate guns. Held my first gun last weekend at my buddies bachelor party. We went to a gun range. My hands kept shaking. I didnt enjoy our outing at all. Guns kill people. All I could think of was my cousin being murdered by a GUN. I just dont see the purpose of them.


    I don't like guns either, but you need to look at the world we live in and be realistic. LOTS of people have them, lots of dangerous people in fact. I'm not going to be naive anymore and become a victim. Like I said, God forbid I ever have to use it.
  • Koaa2

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    Sep 04, 2009 8:25 PM GMT
    Chances are a lot higher that you will get hurt worse if you pull out a gun.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 04, 2009 9:43 PM GMT
    1) You'll forget where you put it
    2) You'll forget where you put the ammunition
    3) The burgurgler will kill you before you can get the bedside table drawer open
    4) Your visiting nephew will accidentally blow his head off
    5) The burgurgler will take it away from you and "open you up like a can of tomato soup"
    7) The burgurgler will break into your house and steal your gun while you're at work
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    Sep 04, 2009 10:16 PM GMT
    I have a 357 mag 8 shot revolver S&W sports center and a Japanese Arisaka rifle from WW2. Love my guns and have a lot of practice. Have a gun at home and one at work. Getting another one soon, probably a German Luger. My work kinda needs me to have one. But i also don't have any kids, or any young family members and I am extra safe with them since i understand all that can go wrong. Depending what state you r in the USA the gun can become either just a toy or a tool for defense. If you follow CA law, it is not going to be a good source of defense since it has to be locked up at all times.

    But one advice : use hollow point ammunition, it will not penetrate ppl and walls and hurt by standers. will probably avoid law suits too. In California ur required to use hollow point for defense.
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    Sep 04, 2009 10:24 PM GMT
    I would strongly advise against the Taurus Judge. Birdshot out of that rifled barrel will not adequately penetrate an attacker and Colt 45 rounds won't be as accurate because of the loooong distance to the forcing cone. It's a gun that tries to do many things but ends up not doing any one thing well.

    I would strongly advise you to get professional training both before and after purchasing a firearm. Some shooters flinch with recoil and are not accurate with or cannot safely handle the larger calibers (.40S&W .45ACP). Before you purchase a firearm for self defense, ponder this question: "would I be able to take the life of another human being without hesitation?" If the answer is "no," do not buy one. You must also commit to regular practice at a range. Many people have thought that buying a gun and throwing it in the sock drawer would keep them safe. A firearm is not a magic talisman that will keep you safe; it's a tool that needs to be employed quickly and decisively. Quick and decisive action requires training.

    Have you considered a 4" .38 Special revolver? The S&W Model 686 is chambered for .357 Magnum, but you can load it with .38's. I personally use a custom 1911 in .45 ACP but would not recommend it to a beginner. PM me if you need any additional advice.
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    Sep 04, 2009 11:03 PM GMT
    If you pull a gun out of panic and you start shooting then you don't know what's going to happen. No matter how responsible or well trained you are, adrenaline can make things go the exact opposite way than they were intended. What if an innocent person gets hurt because you get into a gunfight with someone? For me, I'd rather take a couple of punches to the forehead and stay calm than have a dead passerby on my conscience for the rest of my life.
  • NyRuinz

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    Sep 04, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
    I personally think you pulling out a gun can bring more harm to you than not having one, especially if you really don't know how to use it.
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    Sep 04, 2009 11:24 PM GMT
    Webster666 said1) You'll forget where you put it
    2) You'll forget where you put the ammunition
    3) The burgurgler will kill you before you can get the bedside table drawer open
    4) Your visiting nephew will accidentally blow his head off
    5) The burgurgler will take it away from you and "open you up like a can of tomato soup"
    7) The burgurgler will break into your house and steal your gun while you're at work

    All valid points. I'm a retired US Army Military Police Officer. Sidearms were our constant companions. I ran firing ranges as the Range Officer. I can probably shoot better, and know more about, small arms than most of the guys here. It was my business, and I earned the Army's highest marksmanship rating of Expert with every weapon I ever handled.

    And I have no weapon in my home, nor will I. The disadvantages outweigh the advantages. Now it is true that I can probably maim or kill anyone with my bare hands foolish enough to attack me, unless they simply shoot me. But there's a chance I will disarm them first, and then I'll shoot them with their own weapon, and let the courts sort it out.

    Still, I would not recommend home weapons for personal defense, as they are, and forgive the pun, a double-edged sword. Your better defense is physical protection against intrusion, including security systems that automatically alert the police, and personal defense training.
  • jgymnast733

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    Sep 04, 2009 11:42 PM GMT
    I think it's a great idea, i'd rather be caught with it than without..
    I was in a situation once on the subway when a fucking bastard got out of his seat and up in my face yelling all because i gave a foreign gentleman correct directions..This ameba, was mad at me because he said '' i was helping the enemy''... Meanwhile the entire subway car full of people exited into the other car as i put my hand into my pocket, i knew at that point i had to make an adult choice...Either i walk away and let him have his moment, or shoot the bastard and risk getting caught and sent to jail....
    Afterall, he had nothing to loose, if he goes to jail he's feed 3x a day looks at t.v. and hangs out with his hoomies, he has nothing to loose..
    However, i on the other hand would loose so much more, my freedom, my employment,, my fab apartment and the list goes on..
    So it's up 2 you to make that adult decision..................
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    Sep 05, 2009 1:15 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa said...Your better defense is physical protection against intrusion, including security systems that automatically alert the police, and personal defense training.


    Agreed, however, I think having a weapon can augment your physical security in some circumstances... IF you take training seriously. That said, I do not have your experience. I am simply a guy that competes for sport.

    RedVespa, you've got me beat with the Expert qualification. My personal best is a 2.21" group of seven at 25 yards offhand with the 1911.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 05, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
    I'm wondering in what specific scenario the OP imagines using his new gun.
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    Sep 05, 2009 1:49 AM GMT
    Webster666 said1) You'll forget where you put it
    2) You'll forget where you put the ammunition
    3) The burgurgler will kill you before you can get the bedside table drawer open
    4) Your visiting nephew will accidentally blow his head off
    5) The burgurgler will take it away from you and "open you up like a can of tomato soup"
    7) The burgurgler will break into your house and steal your gun while you're at work

    1) I NEVER forget where mine is
    2) I NEVER forget where the ammo is (in the gun where it belongs)
    3) The burgler better be damn fast...Mine is ON the table
    4) I dont have nephews, and if I do and he does thats what he gets for be a nosey bastard.
    5) Refer to 3
    6) Whereis 6?
    7) I have a CC permit

    I dont understand people that hate guns for no reason.
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    Sep 05, 2009 2:32 AM GMT
    JP85257 said
    4) I dont have nephews, and if I do and he does thats what he gets for be a nosey bastard.

    I dont understand people that hate guns for no reason.

    Because people like you exist. icon_evil.gif
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    Sep 05, 2009 8:10 AM GMT
    Sedative saidSwords and shurikens?


    I'm quite partial to sai, kuni, nunchucks, and jutsu myself.
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    Sep 05, 2009 8:44 AM GMT
    getfitrick said
    Sedative saidSwords and shurikens?


    I'm quite partial to sai, kuni, nunchucks, and jutsu myself.


    Someone's been watching a little too much Naruto. icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 05, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
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    Webster666 said1) You'll forget where you put it
    2) You'll forget where you put the ammunition
    3) The burgurgler will kill you before you can get the bedside table drawer open
    4) Your visiting nephew will accidentally blow his head off
    5) The burgurgler will take it away from you and "open you up like a can of tomato soup"
    7) The burgurgler will break into your house and steal your gun while you're at work

    1) I NEVER forget where mine is
    2) I NEVER forget where the ammo is (in the gun where it belongs)
    3) The burgler better be damn fast...Mine is ON the table
    4) I dont have nephews, and if I do and he does thats what he gets for be a nosey bastard.
    5) Refer to 3
    6) Whereis 6?
    7) I have a CC permit

    I don't understand people that hate guns for no reason.


    #3- Is it next to the lube? icon_eek.gificon_razz.gif


    Personally, I do have a fascination with guns. Went out with my grandfather several times for target practice when I was a kid, As far as having it in my home, I have mixed feelings about. I can see the danger, and would make sure i am fully and completely educated on everything there is to know about the gun and guns in general. If I had a partner, it would be a topic of discussion to weigh it out.

    A friend of mine has several guns, including a automatic rifle and a shotgun. (So cool! lol). But he is extremely safe with them, and has all but one locked up in a safe that doesn't look easy to crack. Plus facing off with him unarmed wouldn't be pretty, though entertaining for observers.icon_lol.gif

    If you feel the need to have a weapon, just make sure you have all the proper training and keep up with the practice. Also, with you going into the service, you'll get all that you need, and then some, there. Be safe icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 06, 2009 3:34 PM GMT
    Koaa2 saidChances are a lot higher that you will get hurt worse if you pull out a gun.


    I have personally known cases where ppl were first robbed and than then shot any way, despite them being cooperative. Some times you might want to co operate to avoid any harm to any body, but if they ask you to go out side with them, or to the basement, etc. you may very well be going to your own crime scene. under such circumstance I would risk it.
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    Sep 06, 2009 5:03 PM GMT

    I suggest..........You Re-Think this decision! Have you really felt that your life was or is in so much jeopardy rt now that this is your last option?
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    Sep 06, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
    Re-evaluate your selection. The Judge is not a good choice for personal defense.

    Find somewhere that teaches firearm handling and pistol self defense. Then try a number of revolvers and autos until you find something that feels right.
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    Sep 07, 2009 10:02 AM GMT
    words can mean so much...if guns do'nt kill people..people kill people....talk to the ammo