Huckabee and AIDS

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    Dec 08, 2007 6:55 PM GMT
    I genuinely thought this looked like an Onion article. II cannot believe that he believes like this, let alone discusses it openly! Well, I guess he won't be getting the nom (I hope).

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071208/ap_on_el_pr/huckabee_aids
  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 08, 2007 10:55 PM GMT
    My bf told me about that today. While he was gov. of Arkansas. I find it really appaulingicon_mad.gif
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    Dec 09, 2007 1:33 AM GMT
    yeah it's shocking, I am amazed no one else has read this yet. I am really glad I saw this though.

    It's funny, he wanted to keep money for diabetes research probably because he was overweight and heading towards diabetes.

    If he gets the nom, I will be so incredibly disappointed, but I doubt he will get much past iowa.
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    Dec 09, 2007 3:02 AM GMT
    I've said all along that it can't get worse than President Cheney and his jester George W Bush. Huckabee is God's way of saying "Assume nothing."

    On election night I will have a boat waiting in the Pudget Sound in Seattle. If we learn that Huckabee is elected then I can take 40 other people with me to Vancouver. Be there as soon as you hear the news. Bring provisions because we may enounter American warships.icon_evil.gif

  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 09, 2007 3:03 AM GMT
    Well I hadn't read anything about it specifically (factually)... if it is a fact, it will be all over the press. He hasn't been scrutinized much, but he will be if he wins Iowa.

    That was really horrible hearing it however.icon_evil.gif
  • Thriller83

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    Dec 09, 2007 3:26 AM GMT
    It was well known back in 1992 that HIV/AIDS could not be spread via casual contact so justifying quarantine because of confusion on how its spread is bullshit. He was ignorant of the scientific facts because he was a bigot and I’ll bet he doesn't have the nads to acknowledge it today! For a presidential candidate to demonstrate that kind of ignorance truly shows what kind of a poor leader he would be.
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    Dec 09, 2007 3:59 AM GMT
    It's already been reported in the NY Times; that's an AP story, so it's been everywhere.

    The shocking thing about his suggestions is that they came 11 years after AIDS was first identified. But his proposal certainly wasn't unique.

    Those of us around early in the epidemic well remember people like Lyndon Larouche and his Proposition 64, which would have "quarantined" people in California with AIDS. It was supported by Calif. Congressman William Dannemeyer. That was around 1985. It was overwhelmingly defeated but they tried again the following year and lost again. Then they came back with Prop. 6 which was an attack on gays generally.

    Meanwhile William F. Buckley was suggesting that people with AIDS be literally branded.

    By the time Huckabee was advocating this crap, it was understood, as Thriller says, that AIDS couldn't be spread by casual contact (although Bill Frist remained unsure,apparently).




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    Dec 09, 2007 4:43 AM GMT
    Bill Frist was busy diagnosing cases of HIV by watching videotapes of the patients.
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    Dec 09, 2007 4:44 AM GMT
    Ah, William F. Buckley.

    That reminds me of his debate with Gore Vidal in reference to U.S. intervention in Vietnam.

    Vidal called Buckley a crypto-Nazi, who then replied: "Now listen you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I'll sock you in your goddamn face and you'll stay plastered."


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    Dec 09, 2007 4:47 AM GMT
    Yes and then, I believe, Vidal wrote his famous essay about Buckley vandalizing Bibles (or something) for Esquire.
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    Dec 09, 2007 4:48 AM GMT
    Yes, and then Buckley followed with a lawsuit that was settled out of court hehe.

    Sick bastard, he is.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:00 AM GMT
    I looked it up and, actually, Buckley fired the first volley in Esquire. The whole thing came up again a few years ago when Esquire published an anthology including Vidal's essay. Buckley sued and won again. The anthology was ditched and they paid his lawyers $65,000.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:20 AM GMT
    i like the buckley v. chomsky stuff too. It's nice to know that right wing douches have been around forever!
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:24 AM GMT
    buckley has taken on chomsky? I'm clueless. Tell me.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:26 AM GMT
    Never mind, I googled and my memory was jarred.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:49 AM GMT
    On the same issue, yes. When I took a linguistics course under Chomsky I couldn't help but remind him of it.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:51 AM GMT
    I, however, prefer the Chomsky - Foucault "Justice vs. Power" debate with Fons Elders. I own a copy of the manuscript. It's out in paperback, too.
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:51 AM GMT
    I just watched Chomsky's dialog with Foucault. He comes off as rather conservative with Foucault and as quite liberal with Buckley.

    Where did you take a class with Chomsky, tool?
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    Dec 09, 2007 5:54 AM GMT
    MIT
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    Dec 09, 2007 6:35 AM GMT
    The man believes the earth is only a few thousand years old and that his recent surge in the polls has more to do with Jesus than Rudy's accounting problems.

    So I wasn't shocked when I read this.

    He is a silly little man who believes silly little things and unfortunately this probably wont hurt him in the primary as much as it should.

    Thankfully, Huckabee is trailing in the swing states of Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. So if he does get the nomination the Dem. candidate will have an advantage in those states.
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    Dec 09, 2007 6:46 AM GMT
    by Chrys Hudson
    Case in point: The positions the ordained Southern Baptist minister put forth during his failed 1992 Senate campaign. During a campaign-trail interview with the Associated Press, for instance, Huckabee said allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military would be a disgrace for the nation.

    "I agree with the leadership of our military, who believe it is not in the best interest of the armed forces to have homosexuals serving on active duty," he said at the time. "I believe to try to legitimize that which is inherently illegitimate would be a disgraceful act of government. I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."


    Being a Christian myself, I'd like to give this man the benefit-of-the-doubt, but he's obviously beyond ignorant. Don't judge all Christians by this guy. This man is frightening. I'll work to ensure he doesn't get the nomination and God forbid, the presidency!
  • GQjock

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    Dec 10, 2007 12:00 PM GMT
    THIS is why if you are a living breathing person in the United States with half a brain you cannot vote for a republican
    ... either the man is lying and catering to the knuckle dragging religious zealots out there who home school there kids and ride around in a pick up with the confederate flag on the back window
    ...see? I can be just as stereotyping as y'all can

    or...he really believes this Sh*t
    either way he is unfit to hold any elected office in this country
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    Dec 10, 2007 12:59 PM GMT
    Perhaps we should all register as Republicans and vote for the most absurd, over-the-top candidate we can find - making it more likely that the terminally disorganized and fragmented Dems can get someone elected this time.

    Another 4 to 8 years of Republican rule and we'll end up in a police state.

    J.
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    Dec 10, 2007 2:12 PM GMT
    ^^ I actually do that! LOL! I did that for the texas gov. I wanted strayhorn to win. I cant stand Rick Perry. I might just do that again if I know for sure that Hillary will win the nomination without my vote.
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    Dec 10, 2007 2:16 PM GMT
    "the terminally disorganized and fragmented Dems"

    I'm especially feeling that now with the depressing revelation that Ms. Pelosi, and 3 other Dems approved
    use of torture following 9/11, even as they now claim to be shocked and horrified by it:

    http://tinyurl.com/yr4vzs