Are you READY for Obama's HEALTH CARE decision on Wed?

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    Sep 06, 2009 8:36 PM GMT
    I'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in.

    I certainly hope he stands his ground and says fuck to the GOP.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Sep 07, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    I'm a Canadian health care professional. Today, I performed a service for a Australian who had to pay for it because he was on vacation. He had some interesting comments about how the Canadian system compares to the Australian system. You're USA system would not have been comparable to any of the benefits of either of those. You people down there need to relax. Change can be a good thing.
  • Mepark

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    Sep 07, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidI'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in.

    I certainly hope he stands his ground and says fuck to the GOP.


    The GOP has no power to stop it. He should say fuck to democrats, cuz if there aint gon be a public option, then he is NOT to blame. They are.
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    Sep 07, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
    Mepark said
    wrestlervic saidI'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in.

    I certainly hope he stands his ground and says fuck to the GOP.


    The GOP has no power to stop it. He should say fuck to democrats, cuz if there aint gon be a public option, then he is NOT to blame. They are.



    Yeah, something about those six democrats; the "moderates" who will bring the whole party down if they don't shut the fuck up.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Sep 07, 2009 1:12 AM GMT
    Ready to be pissed? Sure.
  • jlly_rnchr

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    Sep 07, 2009 1:17 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidI'm a Canadian health care professional. Today, I performed a service for a Australian who had to pay for it because he was on vacation. He had some interesting comments about how the Canadian system compares to the Australian system. You're USA system would not have been comparable to any of the benefits of either of those. You people down there need to relax. Change can be a good thing.


    Off topic: From what I've heard, Australia is pretty good. I work in an HLA lab, and we're testing a sib of an Australian citizen. If the sib is a match for a bone marrow transplant, Australia is flying the sib from the US to Australia for the procedure, free of charge...I couldn't believe that when I heard it.
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    Sep 07, 2009 1:19 AM GMT
    I wonder if people will be defending their constitutional rights and proudly be holding their rifles, as they did at these orchestrated town hall meetings, as they watch the speech on TV.........
  • Koaa2

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    Sep 07, 2009 1:19 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidI'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in.

    I certainly hope he stands his ground and says fuck to the GOP.


    Agree with you.

    He, and the other Democrats, need to get some balls and tell these Republicans, there business friends and the nut cases to go fuck themselves(which I am sure they do on a regular basis).
  • cowboyathlete

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    Sep 07, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
    Paranoia runs rampant in this country.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 07, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
    The President can stand up there and flap his gums from now until Christmas, but it's still THE CONGRESS THAT MAKES THE LAWS, including any changes in health care.

    I think that Obama's intent is to calm the angry mob of ignorant voters.
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    Sep 07, 2009 2:54 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidI'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in..


    That's the "trigger" idea. There is also a trigger with Medicare prescription prices and, of course, it's never been "pulled." It's nothing but smoke and mirrors.

    I swear we are living in a new version of The Grapes of Wrath. I find this article staggering:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/education/06homeless.html
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    Sep 07, 2009 4:12 AM GMT
    I'm anticipating more finger biting. icon_lol.gificon_confused.gif
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    Sep 07, 2009 4:14 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidI'm a Canadian health care professional. Today, I performed a service for a Australian who had to pay for it because he was on vacation. He had some interesting comments about how the Canadian system compares to the Australian system. You're USA system would not have been comparable to any of the benefits of either of those. You people down there need to relax. Change can be a good thing.

    Such as? (got me curious)
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    Sep 07, 2009 4:20 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI'm anticipating more finger biting. icon_lol.gificon_confused.gif


    That's it! Pro-change people should have taken cleavers to townhall meetings, chopped off a finger or two from the hands of those bitching, and then said "There, see how much it costs you to have it sewn back on."
  • Sparkycat

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    Sep 07, 2009 4:59 AM GMT
    I must say I'm disappointed in Prez Obama. I though he would be a strong leader, but he's been a pussy. He needs to stop trying to kiss every ass and make everyone happy. It's not going to happen. It's time for him to show some strength, stand up for what he believes in, and get something done.
  • jrs1

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    Sep 07, 2009 5:06 AM GMT

    I'm looking forward to a decision being made, yes. Obama notwithstanding, no president is going to be loved by everyone - Clinton was close - but I just want to know what's going to happen.
  • Mepark

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    Sep 07, 2009 5:19 AM GMT
    Sparkycat saidI must say I'm disappointed in Prez Obama. I though he would be a strong leader, but he's been a pussy. He needs to stop trying to kiss every ass and make everyone happy. It's not going to happen. It's time for him to show some strength, stand up for what he believes in, and get something done.


    Couldn't disagree further. Don't underestimate this man.

    And what's wrong with making everyone happy. If Republicans won't compromise, then it's their loss. Guess who 50 million newly insured citizens will vote for?
  • jrs1

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    Sep 07, 2009 5:38 AM GMT
    Mepark said Don't underestimate this man.


    it's not just this man I'm hoping not to underestimate ... there is this little concept called the cabinet, the supreme court - in terms of hearing referendums on gay marriage, and the house et senate. it's been an enervating socio-political summer.
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    Sep 07, 2009 7:18 AM GMT
    ...to be underwhelmed.
  • metta

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    Sep 07, 2009 8:08 AM GMT
    wrestlervic saidI'm sure no definitive decision will be made, but according to the press he is going to specifically spell out what it will be. I just read also that they may use the public option as a threat to insurance companies to lower their prices, or a public option would kick in.

    I certainly hope he stands his ground and says fuck to the GOP.


    From what I understand, the White House is considering putting together its own plan that would include using the public options as a threat.
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    Sep 07, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
    jrs1 said
    I'm looking forward to a decision being made, yes. Obama notwithstanding, no president is going to be loved by everyone - Clinton was close - but I just want to know what's going to happen.


    I think Reagan accomplished this. Just ask Jimmy Carter how that election went.
  • metta

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    Sep 07, 2009 8:15 AM GMT
    Sparkycat saidI must say I'm disappointed in Prez Obama. I though he would be a strong leader, but he's been a pussy. He needs to stop trying to kiss every ass and make everyone happy. It's not going to happen. It's time for him to show some strength, stand up for what he believes in, and get something done.


    I don't think that that he is naturally a strong leader. He seems to middle of the road to be such. I think that he has potential, but the only way to try and reach that potential is to push him to be better than he would normally be. For example, I do wonder if he would have won if it was not for how hard Hillary pushed for the job. I think that made him push more and helped to prepare him for competing with McCain.

  • GQjock

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    Sep 07, 2009 9:59 AM GMT
    This is what he should have done from the beginning
    By allowing the Congress to formulate the plan he gave the republicans
    their in to pick and poke at it with their lies and deception, which is what they are very good at, until no one knows what's true anymore

    Until Obama gets it through his skull that the republicans will never EVER vote for anything that resembles a healthcare bill it won't be soon enough

    All the problems he's been running into have been a direct result because of his attempts a bipartisanship
    There AIN'T no such thing
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    Sep 07, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
    ok i dont understand why people are in an uproar. i reviewed what the president proposed and i don't see any issue. It is better than nothing and i don't see anybody else making better suggestions. Sometimes change will benefit people. Its just this huge paranoia that people have and wont let go. So far this man has done a whole lot for this country. Just because he hasn't jumped on the gay cause right away people are giving him heat. People must understand that he took over a rusted out, used up country and he is trying to fix it, clean house and start anew. He focused on equal pay for women (check), then he focused on boosting the economy which i believe is working-(check) as housing sales has gone up(check). Then he introduced that cash for clunker idea(check). The president is doing his job. He is working to make the country better off later down the road by implementing plans for the future now. Progress comes in stages of importance. At this present time, the economy is the most important not gay marriage. Like everyday i read how he is not doing this, he is not doing that when if you look for yourself you will see that he has accomplished more than any other president in the first 100 days in office. People need to stop undermining his potential. As far as politicians go, hes the most honest one out there and he actually cares for the people.