Let's say your doctor told you

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    Sep 08, 2009 4:53 AM GMT
    that regardless of your efforts, you will die from complications of diabetes. Would you bother fighting it?
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 08, 2009 5:26 AM GMT
    I would get a new Dr. ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!. I would fight it everyday!! Look how long Wilford Brimley and Mary Tyler Moore haved lived with it!!
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    Sep 08, 2009 12:28 PM GMT
    i'd know my doctor is wrong, since if you exercise regularly and eat properly, diabetes can be regulated and managed if not ultimately tamed.

    a doctor wouldn't tell that to their patient, since there are many methods to help fight diabetes. a 10% reduction in body weight loss has about a 30% reduction in death from diabetes and CVD death. This can be accomplished by many means of ideally exercise, or from your past posts, by surgery.


    although diabetes has been proven to have some hereditary origin, it's one's eating and exercise patterns that ultimately cause the onset of diabetes unless its type 1 and your born with it. So i would say to prevent the onset of type 2 would be ideal for everyone.. shouldn't have put yourself in that situation in the first place.. just my opinion
  • swimmerdude52...

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    Sep 08, 2009 12:36 PM GMT
    even if he told me that it was pointless...I would still go down swinging. Life isnt something that you throw in the towel in.
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    Sep 08, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
    You could live many years longer if you did fight it.Oh,and find another doctor that encourages his patients to live and extend their available time on earth.
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    Sep 08, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
    if some-one told u , u would get hit by a truck tommorow
    would u get out of bed ?
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    Sep 08, 2009 12:51 PM GMT
    I'd change doctors. My sister-in-law's mother is in her seventies and has lived with diabetes since she was a teenager. I think he is just trying to scare you into action. If you eat right, exercise and go for regular check-ups, I don't see why you couldn't live a healthy, long life. Diabetes does make things complicated because if you do get sick, certain medications you may have to take to treat one thing may make the diabetes worse.
    Don't give up just yet. Just change your diet, go to gym or walk around your neighbourhood so that you get healthier and delay any risly health issues.
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    Sep 08, 2009 1:05 PM GMT
    Depends on whether or not the doctor advised me to increase my efforts. If he was telling me that because my efforts are half assed that diabetes was gonna get me and that my history guarantees that I won't up my efforts, then, maybe I'd just head off to the local Baskin Robbins for a sample of each of their gazillion flavors.
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    Sep 08, 2009 2:28 PM GMT
    swimmerdude521 saideven if he told me that it was pointless...I would still go down swinging. Life isnt something that you throw in the towel in.


    I could not have said it better.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Sep 08, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    I see he now made his profile Private....Its the same old fat ass trying to get sympathy for something he can control himself!!..Always bitchin bitchin about his weight, & yet does nothing to change the situation.

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  • MSUBioNerd

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    Sep 08, 2009 3:10 PM GMT
    Two options:

    1) Find another doctor, because any who would tell you that death from diabetes complications are inevitable no matter what you do are quacks.

    2) Try to determine how I came away with that message when it is staggeringly unlikely that any licensed doctor would actually say that.

    Therefore, if I did go to another doctor, I would bring a tape recorder so I would know exactly what the doctor said, and could verify the message, possibly by getting someone else to listen to it and confirm what was said.

    Assuming this happened to you, a more realistic scenario is that your doctor said that your current efforts are insufficient and that if you keep on the path you're on now, an early death from diabetes complications is likely. Diabetes is a serious illness I wouldn't wish on anyone, but it is manageable with a controlled diet, exercise, and careful monitoring of blood sugar and insulin injections. If you want an anecdote, my grandmother was diagnosed with Type II diabetes when my Dad was still a kid; she died from Alzheimer's in her late 70s while I was in college.
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    Sep 08, 2009 3:12 PM GMT
    You're statement is very vague, what type of diabeties? Are you suffering from kidney failure now and dialysis is not working? Are you looking at your limbs being amputated? What's the deal?
  • calibro

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    Sep 08, 2009 3:23 PM GMT
    I would say stop introducing hypotheticals in which doctor in his right mind was say something like that nor any patient in their right mind would actually swallow that crap. You're always making these ridiculous posts and blasting guys for losing weight. If you want to be dour, fine, but don't bring it to the rest of us.
  • Celticmusl

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    Sep 08, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
    Doctors are humans, they don't know what the future holds. We could all die tomorrow in some kind of nuclear holocaust or they can come up with a new vaccine to combat aging and all live forever. Take your challenges and fight it one day at a time. When you go to bed at night don't worry about the future, each new day brings it's own issues.
  • Timbales

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    Sep 08, 2009 3:53 PM GMT
    I'd say your going to die of something someday anyway, so you have two options: give up and speed the process along or try to enjoy a fit, healthy balanced life.
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    Sep 08, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    I would stare him in the face and

    Doctor. honestly I'm 22 years old and consider myself of a reasonable intelligence. I appreciate your effort but I would prefer you treat me as an adult and we can save the reverse psychology for pediatrics ward
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    Sep 08, 2009 4:21 PM GMT
    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable. Don't forget fat asses are fat, and remain that way, dying from it, when they fail to take proper action.

    Type 1 diabetes research is advancing more now that President Bush is not in office. One of President Obama's first actions was to fund stem cell research. It's likely that there will be a cure for type 1 diabetes in the not to distant future. It's right around the corner.

    If you're faced with a chronic condition, then, you have to do your best to cope, and to improve your state of health. If you wanna' die young, like a fat ass, well, that's sad, but, life.

    We have a pandemic of obesity, that is going to get very much worse until we take action against it.

    Quitting is for losers. When you take positive action you're the better off for it.
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    Sep 08, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidI see he now made his profile Private....Its the same old fat ass trying to get sympathy for something he can control himself!!..Always bitchin bitchin about his weight, & yet does nothing to change the situation.

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    Yep...that was my thought too. You think he'd get off his fat ass, and take charge of his life, but, no..he wallows in it.

    When they start cutting his limbs off, and when he has to have a Wally World cart...so desperate for attention...yet does nothing...JUST WALLOWS IN IT.

    The guy needs a shrink, and not a trainer.
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    Sep 09, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
    If I had any disease, I'd live life in the best way I knew how to maintain a good quality experience. You've got to do healthy things to stay healthy. And there have to be times to just give yourself a break. Once a major complication happens, that's when you really got to fight to get back your health and you should ask for support. And not think in extremes. Get as much advice about coping with it and Stay around pleasant people. Remember this MAJOR THOUGHT, untreated disease causes too much pain and might linger on and on. That is when your support system is most important to you.

    Join some group, someone out there might just be or say what you need to carry on.
    Hugs
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    Sep 09, 2009 1:42 AM GMT

    People have survived worse: bear attacks, being struck by lightning, having bacteria eat whole limbs off, no way I'd reach for my life less than any of them.
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    Sep 15, 2009 10:14 AM GMT


    I'd start out by eating an apple pie ... work my way through several baggettes of tropical skittles, engorge on some swedish fish, devour a nerd's rope or two, and then wash it all down with a sobe green tea. if I'm still not satisfied, I'll just empty out the nearest sweet factory candy store.

    this is a hypothetical thread that has been answered well by previous respondents.