Another Republican bites the dust in California

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    Sep 10, 2009 1:42 PM GMT
    This Republican California Assemblyman got caught on an open microphone at the state capitol talking about spanking his mistress, of which he claims to have 2, though married. But of most interest to gays is the end of this story:

    "The lawmaker had received a 100 percent rating from Capitol Resource Institute, a conservative advocacy group, for his votes on legislation considered pro-family during the 2007-08 legislative session."

    See a pattern here? At least this one resigned right away, unlike family values Republicans Vitter, Sanford, Craig, et al.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32762412/ns/politics-more_politics/
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    Sep 10, 2009 3:43 PM GMT
    John Edwards doesn't fit your pattern.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
    USMmmm saidJohn Edwards doesn't fit your pattern.



    Thank you...apparently some people are only counting if it's a Republican.
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    Sep 10, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    Republican or Democrat is really sad when they fall from grace! WOW!
    I'm more upset that he cheated on his spouse then the content of what was over-heard.icon_mad.gif
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    Sep 10, 2009 3:50 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    USMmmm saidJohn Edwards doesn't fit your pattern.



    Thank you...apparently some people are only counting if it's a Republican.


    I am "only counting" when someone takes a high morality pro-family stance for being against gay marrige, but later turns out the same "pro-family" guy is cheating on his wife.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 10, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    I heard about it on CNN.... I heard he toed the "right winger line" and against any form of gay marriage. I also heard he got an award in 2000 for his "family values" support. I heard some of what the mic picked up... it was pretty sad.
    He needed to go, democrat or republican.
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    Sep 10, 2009 4:03 PM GMT
    How does Edwards even figure into this? He had an affair but wasn't legislating a ludicrous sexual morality. Besides, what was he going to resign from? The Southern Poverty Law Center?

    There is really no need to defend hypocrites. I am all for people having a wonderfully adventurous sex life but when you stand for absurd policies like Duvall has then you have it coming.

    Republicans, your party is sinking into irrelevance because of things like this. Rather than defending this guy by talking about Edwards (the better choice would have been Elliot Spitzer, by the by, as he is a hypocrite) you should be calling out members of your party that want to legislate what you can do with your heart and cock.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    I was just making the point that hypocrisy runs rampant in both parties . As for Edwards, maybe he's not currently a Senator, but that's probably only because he actually thought he could be President. I've heard enough holier-than-thou babble come out of that hypocrite's mouth to last me a lifetime.
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:14 PM GMT
    Duvall resigned this morning. But he claims his resignation isn't an admission of guilt, in regards to having sex with those lobbyists.

    I guess it was all bogus locker room talk? icon_lol.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:15 PM GMT
    HA! The fucker is now denying it

    From His Campaign WebsiteAssemblyman Duvall Denies Reports that He Had Affair

    I want to make it clear that my decision to resign is in no way an admission that I had an affair or affairs. My offense was engaging in inappropriate story-telling and I regret my language and choice of words. The resulting media coverage was proving to be an unneeded distraction to my colleagues and I resigned in the hope that my decision would allow them to return to the business of the state.
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
    jprichva said

    it's fucking endless.


    I could NOT agree with you more, JP...

    President Bill "I Did NOT Have Sex With That Woman" Clinton

    Gary "I Had Sex With Her But Didn't Kill Her" Condit

    Governor Jim "I Don't Have Sex With My Wife Cuz I Have A BOYfriend" McGreevey

    Mayor Gavin "I slept with my top aides wife" Newsom

    Governor Elliot "Hookers Make Better Lovers" Spitzer

    Congressman William "Doesn't EVERYBODY Keep $100,000 in their Freezer" Jefferson


    Shall I go on?????

    Cuz you are absolutely 100% right..."Fucking Endless" (pardon my French) icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
    USMmmm saidJohn Edwards doesn't fit your pattern.

    Actually, not at all. He wasn't given a 100% legislative rating by a Conservative group, based on his pro-family voting record. Please read what I wrote. Edwards was a former Senator, whose career was ruined by this, as it should have been. Now answer the additional question why Vitter, Craig & Sanford did NOT resign when caught while in office. Eliot Spitzer did.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 10, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHehehehe... what a way to go down! icon_smile.gif

    In other news.... gay-former-Palm-Beach-Florida-congressman-who-used-to- proposition-young-congressional-intern-boys-Mark-Foley will soon be having his own radio show here in South Florida....



    No offense, but I think everyone knew John Edwards career was over long before the scandal broke -- everyone, of course, but John Edwards
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:25 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidHehehehe... what a way to go down! icon_smile.gif

    In other news.... gay-former-Palm-Beach-Florida-congressman-who-used-to- proposition-young-congressional-intern-boys-Mark-Foley will soon be having his own radio show here in South Florida....

    Oh, gawd, I didn't know that. South Florida is amazing. The urban parts of it, like where we live, are among the most gay-friendly in the US, while the overall state political complexion is very right-wing red neck Republican. Living here, it always puzzles me.
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    Sep 10, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    You're entirely missing the point, Todd.

    None of the Democrats you listed ever lectured anyone on proper moral behavior, and none of them voted to legislate it.

    Moreover, William Jefferson's crimes were financial. I don't think any Republican wants to start comparing on that basis (*cough* Abramoff *cough* DeLay *cough*).


    Oh come on -- Bill Clinton never lectured? John Edwards? Gimme a break. They are ALL hypocrites.

    As for Tom Delay -- Hey, hands off -- he's staging a major comeback on "DANCING WITH THE STARS" icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    southbeach1500 saidHehehehe... what a way to go down! icon_smile.gif

    In other news.... gay-former-Palm-Beach-Florida-congressman-who-used-to- proposition-young-congressional-intern-boys-Mark-Foley will soon be having his own radio show here in South Florida....



    No offense, but I think everyone knew John Edwards career was over long before the scandal broke -- everyone, of course, but John Edwards


    Is it something that you drink in your water or coffee ?

    Do you just make these sort of comments to get a rise out of people?
  • Koaa2

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    Sep 10, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    USMmmm saidJohn Edwards doesn't fit your pattern.



    Thank you...apparently some people are only counting if it's a Republican.


    I don't think John Edwards was pushing the family value thing down our throats. These bigoted Republicans all need to be exposed for the crap they are.
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    Sep 10, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    You're entirely missing the point, Todd.

    None of the Democrats you listed ever lectured anyone on proper moral behavior, and none of them voted to legislate it.

    Moreover, William Jefferson's crimes were financial. I don't think any Republican wants to start comparing on that basis (*cough* Abramoff *cough* DeLay *cough*).


    Oh come on -- Bill Clinton never lectured? John Edwards? Gimme a break. They are ALL hypocrites.

    As for Tom Delay -- Hey, hands off -- he's staging a major comeback on "DANCING WITH THE STARS" icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    Can you find us an instance of Clinton or Edwards "lecturing" others on family values?

    ...and I don't mean the evasive and tired Democratic line of "I'm in favor of equality for gays, but I personally don't think the country is ready for gay marriage!"

    I want to see Bill Clinton calling gays sexual deviants, labeling abortion as "murder" and complaining about the degradation of the family.

    When you find those quotes, Clinton will be in the same league as Vitter on the hypocrisy front.
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    Sep 10, 2009 8:35 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said

    Is it something that you drink in your water or coffee ?

    Do you just make these sort of comments to get a rise out of people?


    Uh, no...why? Are you risen? icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    The hypocrisy is bipartisan, not solely Republican.
    "I didn't inhale."
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    Sep 10, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said
    You're entirely missing the point, Todd.

    None of the Democrats you listed ever lectured anyone on proper moral behavior, and none of them voted to legislate it.

    Moreover, William Jefferson's crimes were financial. I don't think any Republican wants to start comparing on that basis (*cough* Abramoff *cough* DeLay *cough*).


    Oh come on -- Bill Clinton never lectured? John Edwards? Gimme a break. They are ALL hypocrites.

    As for Tom Delay -- Hey, hands off -- he's staging a major comeback on "DANCING WITH THE STARS" icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    If you cannot see the difference between Christian-right theocratic politicians betraying their own advertised morals, and those who screw up without betraying any contrived hard-line stances, then you are just another blind neocon.

    Oh wait, those last two words were redundant.

    Anyone who follows along knows you are one of the least intellectually curious people on this site, and cannot carry a real debate to save your life.

    I'd call you a marshmallow peep, but more like a crusty stale one long past its expiration date.

    But you made lots of money on real estate deals in AZ before the bust, so I guess you have that. :-/

    Now go back to feeding the young and impressionable on this site your binary simplistic wisdom on politics. We'll have an idiocracy yet.
  • t0theheights

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    Sep 10, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    jprichva said

    it's fucking endless.


    I could NOT agree with you more, JP...

    President Bill "I Did NOT Have Sex With That Woman" Clinton

    Gary "I Had Sex With Her But Didn't Kill Her" Condit

    Governor Jim "I Don't Have Sex With My Wife Cuz I Have A BOYfriend" McGreevey

    Mayor Gavin "I slept with my top aides wife" Newsom

    Governor Elliot "Hookers Make Better Lovers" Spitzer

    Congressman William "Doesn't EVERYBODY Keep $100,000 in their Freezer" Jefferson


    Shall I go on?????

    Cuz you are absolutely 100% right..."Fucking Endless" (pardon my French) icon_lol.gif



    The distinction the brainwashed conservatives fail to see here is that these people were not "pro-family," "pro-morality" HYPOCRITES who judged and legislated others' personal lives. That makes their acts a million times more offensive and dangerous.
  • jarhead5536

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    Sep 10, 2009 9:03 PM GMT
    Very true that John Edwards was not a hypocrite in his actions. He was a liar who broke his marriage vows, which in and of itself disqualifies him for high office. But no, he was not out contantly shoving his 'family values" down everyone's throats, just as Eliot Sptizer was not. This makes them a little less contemptible than the Republicans that have gotten caught with their pants down. It's the hypocrisy that's so offensive in their cases...
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    Sep 10, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    MadeNUSA said

    Is it something that you drink in your water or coffee ?

    Do you just make these sort of comments to get a rise out of people?


    Uh, no...why? Are you risen? icon_lol.gif


    Hardly...

    I'm just at a loss to figure out if you are being purposely and deliberately obtuse in order to get a rise out of people or you actually seriously believe what you are saying.

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    Sep 10, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    However, the candidates of both parties portray "the exemplary all American family" both before they become elected officials and after - despite engaging in behavior that contradicts that image.