Philosophical Differences....

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    Sep 13, 2009 5:40 PM GMT
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    I asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.

    She said she wanted to be President of the United States some day.

    Both of her parents, Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her,
    "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

    She replied, "I'd give food, houses, and healthcare to all the homeless people."

    Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the Democrat Party!"

    "Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her. I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy just come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

    I smiled and said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

    Her parents still aren't speaking to me.


    Bahahaha!
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    Sep 13, 2009 5:53 PM GMT
    ..of course..."Flame war fodder of the day" award goes here....icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 13, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
    Well why don't we round up all the homeless people and send them to a camp where they live and do there work together and we can take the legless shell shocked one, kill him and grind him up to be used in the baloney supply....

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    Sep 13, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    RST2009 saidShe replied, "I'd give food, houses, and healthcare to all the homeless people."

    Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the Democrat Party!"

    "Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her. I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

    The fallacy of that argument is that Democrats don't oppose that, either. The able-bodied should work to support themselves. And to that end, they should be given opportunities to do so, and a chance to be retrained to do even better.

    But until they can, or if they never can, what do we do with them? Let them starve and die in our streets? Welcome to the Republican Party!
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    Sep 13, 2009 7:19 PM GMT
    Well, you're obviously a stupid ignorant radical right wing Republican, since you don't have the intelligence to know that it's "Democrat-IC," not Democrat.
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    Sep 13, 2009 7:24 PM GMT
    Funny story. I am actually a Democrat and I would agree with some of the basic points you are making with your story. Once I was downtown and saw a young guy begging for money in front of a McD with a "Help Wanted" sign in the window - I so much wished I had a camera that day.

    Here is a story (made up of course):

    A family worked hard to provide for themselves. They saved and eventually bought a house. They lived in a country where everything was privatized. No socialism of any kind here - everything was left to private enterprise so someone could make a profit. One day their house caught on fire. The firemen came and before putting out the fire asked to see their fire protection insurance. To the family's horror they didn't have any. The fireman quickly went to the neighbors and ask if they had the insurance. Some did: others didn't. The fire man made sure these who had insurance had their houses protected: those without insurance houses were left to burn. Oh yeah also the water company heard of the fire and raised its rates as the fire was going on.

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    Sep 13, 2009 7:45 PM GMT
    Another story:

    Jimmy and Sammy were set to race.

    Jimmy had the best track coach, great shoes, and was well nourish:
    Sammy had a shitty track coach, horrible shoes, and hasn't ate for days.

    Jimmy has the inside track: Sammy was on the outside track- yet they started exactly at the same place.

    Jimmy easily won the race with a decent finishing time:
    Sammy, despite his best effort, lost with an horrible finish time (his shoes also fall apart during the race).

    Everyone cheered what a great person Jimmy was:
    Everyone Jeered what a lazy pieice of shit Sammy was.

    Moral of the story: not everyone has the same advantages in life to no fault of their own.

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    Sep 13, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidWell, you're obviously a stupid ignorant radical right wing Republican, since you don't have the intelligence to know that it's "Democrat-IC," not Democrat.


    Hey Webby, as it says "Author Unknown", take a pill, its called a joke. Oh no, the precious left has had a joke made about it on an internet forum! The sky is falling.

    Red thats for you too.
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    Sep 13, 2009 9:26 PM GMT
    Oh, the old 'Democrats are for hand outs and Republicans are for self-reliance' line. It would be funny, probably, for someone who really has no idea what actual policy is. You know, that sad, pathetic, uninformed sort of humor that says way more about the people who find it funny than it does about politics.

    Do go on.
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    Sep 13, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
    Fell outta my chair laughing!
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:03 AM GMT
    I claim no political affiliation and am registered independant but i will say this: It is quite typical that the Republican knows that theres a homeless man over there that needs a job, but he would still rather offer it to the little girl instead lest he get his hands dirty mingling with "the poor".

    Im just saying right or left, whichever way you lean, the point is supposed to be AMERICA and how can we fix it. Instead we just rehash old Rush Limbaugh jokes and yell at town hall meetings. Im leaving this despicable wasteland the first chance i get.
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:14 AM GMT


    "She replied, "I'd give food, houses, and healthcare to all the homeless people."

    Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the Democrat Party!"


    All this shows is that both of your parties in the US have their share of extremists. Putting this story out here, RST2009, is telling us you're one as well, and living in Canada to boot where you benefit greatly (though we notice you protest this last).

    ...well I can see why the author is unknown. Flame war fodder indeed. The parents were obviously communists and not democrats.

    But hey, we're Canadians and don't pull knives on each other, with politics couched in vapid polarizing little stories like this one.



    -Doug of meninlove
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:28 AM GMT
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    "She replied, "I'd give food, houses, and healthcare to all the homeless people."

    Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the Democrat Party!"


    All this shows is that both of your parties in the US have their share of extremists. Putting this story out here, RST2009, is telling us you're one as well, and living in Canada to boot where you benefit greatly (though we notice you protest this last).

    ...well I can see why the author is unknown. Flame war fodder indeed. The parents were obviously communists and not democrats.

    But hey, we're Canadians and don't pull knives on each other, with politics couched in vapid polarizing little stories like this one.



    -Doug of meninlove


    Doug of meninlove, in all honestly I knew the kind of reaction this could illicit and with that awareness posted it. It's meant to highlight the level of "unreal" reality so many on here live in.... life isnt about the extremes, its about working towards an amicable, humane co-existence with others, love all, serve all, so to speak. The most vocal on RJ are more concerned with being right at all costs vs actually considering both sides and understanding the opposing viewpoint.

    My enjoying the ensuing flame war is selfish I suppose but it is only an internet forum.

    BTW this has a Cdn version with the Dems shown as the NDP and the Rep's as the Conservatives.


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    Sep 14, 2009 1:57 AM GMT

    LOL, thanks RST2009, understood.

    ...but when we ( Bill's here now) read , "this is only an internet forum" we think that therein lies the problem with many topics.

    Internet interactions are extensions of visceral life; telephone conversations without the audio if you like. As an example, for years I was a TTY operator with the telephone company - a service for deaf people - text only.. We're all real people, yet so many seem to act like they're talking to their pc. lol, of course there are trolls, and they fall into the category we refer to.

    At any rate, thanks for your reply, we both appreciated it, and btw, we asked a question on that topic in gay news and events about the republican w/ mistresses etc.
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:12 AM GMT

    Oh Jeff, the things I said! Lol, an education, whether I wanted it or not!


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    Sep 14, 2009 2:17 AM GMT

    I sort of wonder where all these people in need keep coming from myself. We had Lyndon Johnson who worked in their behalf; Jimmy Carter the peanut tycoon who worked in their behalf; Bill "Cigar" Clinton who was our first openly kinky President who worked in their behalf. Yet.....there always seems to be somone else in need.

    I think what we really all need to do is just become poor. Then we poor folk can truly learn to solve our own problems.
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    You know, we have a friend who once said that there was no reason everyone couldn't apply themselves and everyone become a millionaire.

    Bill held his breath while I calmly said that at that point a quart of milk would cost about five hundred dollars.

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    Sep 14, 2009 2:43 AM GMT
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    jprichva saidWhat does it say? It says you're a smug, ill-mannered boob.

    But thanks for playing. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.


    And you're a fathead.

    Humm, weren't you just Whining in another thread about people talking poorly about you?
    What's this weird double standard shit I see?
    I'll take a little cheese with my whine please...icon_rolleyes.gif


    Double standard? That's rhetorical right? For Pete's sake the ass is a republican. Do you really expect anything different?
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:47 AM GMT

    Honestly, MadeNUSA, that's unnecessary. Your country only has the two parties.

    You can't define personalities by their political affiliations. For balance we'll also say that people shouldn't define themselves by their votes.




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    Sep 14, 2009 2:55 AM GMT
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    Honestly, MadeNUSA, that's unnecessary. Your country only has the two parties.

    You can't define personalities by their political affiliations. For balance we'll also say that people shouldn't define themselves by their votes.



    There are more than two parties here - if you want to be perfectly correct.

    Why cannot someone be defined by their political affiliations? A person can be and always is defined by their religious affiliations- there is no difference.

    If the person persists in being an ass inspite of the inforamation all around him, then he must be so defined.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:17 AM GMT

    made NUSA, this, "A person can be and always is defined by their religious affiliations- there is no difference."

    ...is also untrue.
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    Sep 14, 2009 3:43 AM GMT
    RST2009 saidAuthor Unknown:

    I asked my friend's little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.

    She said she wanted to be President of the United States some day.

    Both of her parents, Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her,
    "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

    She replied, "I'd give food, houses, and healthcare to all the homeless people."

    Her parents beamed, and said, "Welcome to the Democrat Party!"

    "Wow...what a worthy goal!" I told her. I continued, "But you don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house, mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out. You can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house."

    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy just come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

    I smiled and said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

    Her parents still aren't speaking to me.


    Bahahaha!



    Thank God I am over the philosophical, political, or religious views of any persuasions as I was at one point in my life! I feel sorry for anyone who live or stand by any of these radical ideologies, which for the most part have caused humanity to go backwards and not forward!

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    Sep 14, 2009 3:57 AM GMT
    I just saw the "Author Unknown."
    Apologies all around, and that goes double for the OP.
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    Sep 14, 2009 5:34 AM GMT
    phemt said> Once I was downtown and saw a young guy begging for money in front of a McD with a "Help Wanted" sign in the window

    Funny, but anecdotal and underscores another fallacy in the story. There isn't a one-to-one relationship between jobs offered and those looking for jobs. Unemployment doesn't seem to go much below 5% - and that's not even counting the shell-shocked or mentally ill homeless folk, the disabled, the elderly....

    We shouldn't judge a society by how wealthy the rich are, but by how well it takes care of the less fortunate people.
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    Sep 14, 2009 9:55 PM GMT
    I am all for social programs to help the unfortunate. I almost always vote democratic (once in a local election I voted Republican). Yes, there will always be some people dispite their best intentions for whatever reason will not be able to find work. People like that should be helped. I think we all know able people though who refuse to even look for a job. These people are content living off others and milking the system as best as they can. It is really annoying that we have became so bipartisan that we can't even admit when a Republican makes a valid point: some people just refuse to even attempt to provide for themselves. To discredit them Liberals point out extreme examples. When Republicans question the extent of social welfare abuses. Liberals ask what about the quadriplegic, blind, mentality ill veteran who can't work? When the Republican was just refering to the fact that some people are just lazy to provide for themselves when there are ways for people to help themselves. Republicans do sometimes make value points. When they do we should give them credit. I also hope that Republicans can give us Democrats some credit also. They often try to paint us with a broad bush. Democrats do not always agree on evertything: we often debate among ourselves.