Should Serena Williams be allowed to play in the US OPEN Women's Doubles final?

  • silverfox

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    Sep 14, 2009 4:33 AM GMT
    Well it's obvious she isn't going to pull out on her own for her disgraceful behavior. But I am wondering if she should be allowed to play. I mean, she didn't apologize, she is getting some ridiculous fines...but why not hit her where it might hurt?

    I think she should not be allowed to play tomorrow....

    How about you? What do you think?
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    Sep 14, 2009 4:42 AM GMT
    No that was ridiculous. She should be banned for a bit.
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    Sep 14, 2009 4:52 AM GMT
    In comparison, wasn't McEnroe worse during his days? icon_lol.gif
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 14, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
    I put this up for discussion in the tennis spot on here!
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    Sep 14, 2009 4:58 AM GMT
    silverfox1 saidWell it's obvious she isn't going to pull out on her own for her disgraceful behavior. But I am wondering if she should be allowed to play. I mean, she didn't apologize, she is getting some ridiculous fines...but why not hit her where it might hurt?

    I think she should not be allowed to play tomorrow....

    How about you? What do you think?


    No one knows exactly what was said, so yes, she should be permitted to play.
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    Sep 14, 2009 5:16 AM GMT
    Addicted2me said
    silverfox1 saidWell it's obvious she isn't going to pull out on her own for her disgraceful behavior. But I am wondering if she should be allowed to play. I mean, she didn't apologize, she is getting some ridiculous fines...but why not hit her where it might hurt?

    I think she should not be allowed to play tomorrow....

    How about you? What do you think?


    No one knows exactly what was said, so yes, she should be permitted to play.


    They replayed it. She said something like

    "I am going to fucking stuff my [racket or ball] down your fucking throat" etc. Many swears and threats.

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    Sep 14, 2009 5:50 AM GMT
    TrowelMonger said
    Addicted2me said
    silverfox1 saidWell it's obvious she isn't going to pull out on her own for her disgraceful behavior. But I am wondering if she should be allowed to play. I mean, she didn't apologize, she is getting some ridiculous fines...but why not hit her where it might hurt?

    I think she should not be allowed to play tomorrow....

    How about you? What do you think?


    No one knows exactly what was said, so yes, she should be permitted to play.


    They replayed it. She said something like

    "I am going to fucking stuff my [racket or ball] down your fucking throat" etc. Many swears and threats.



    Oh, OK. In this instance, I still think not allowing her to play would be extreme.
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    Sep 14, 2009 6:47 AM GMT
    Once the final report comes through, and all the investigations are done we should see. I think its fair that she plays until the committee is done with their investigation.

    However the comments that she should be banned forever, no. If she did make those comments, then maybe for this tournament. But not for every tournament that they put on.

    Even Michael Vick is playing football again. Was what she did as bad as his offense? I'm thinking no.
  • Timbales

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    Sep 14, 2009 1:04 PM GMT
    Serene Williams is the greatest tennis player of all time!

    /kanye'd
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:17 PM GMT
    Many accusations have been tossed but I thought she was also accused of threatening to kill her? which she denied. Were they able to get clear audio to hear exactly what was said?
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:38 PM GMT
    Yes she should play. While I respect her skills as a player her attitude is terrible. No knows what was actually said I could see Serena saying I could stuff my racket down your throat in heat of the moment but issuing a death threat when she and her sister gets them come on now. She has been fined and that should be enough.

    Anyone how was fallowed tennis, this is nothing compared to what John has said and still says.

    I was really hoping that an American would win the open. I am happy that Kim won it!

    By the way Silver John nevere appologized for any of his out burst either. Why should Venus suffer for her sister's mistake. That is why she will be able to play in todays doubles final.
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    Sep 14, 2009 1:42 PM GMT
    It depends if they are afraid to say no the HE BITCH!!!! icon_evil.gif
  • DuggerPDX

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    Sep 14, 2009 1:54 PM GMT
    Absolutely not! What poor sportsmanship. But ratings are ratings so I'm sure she will be on the court.
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    Sep 14, 2009 2:07 PM GMT
    They are not going to PUNISH Venus for Serena's actions hence the fine and the possible ban of suspensions from several slams next season. If they were to ban her from the doubles the USTA would have a law suit on their hands.

    Therefore she will play in the doubles final.
  • silverfox

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    Sep 14, 2009 2:10 PM GMT
    NOTE FROM THE OP:

    Regardless of what you think about Serena allowed to play today or not....

    Can we all agree that this the "foot fault" event would make an unbelievably funny "Saturday Night Live" skit?


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    Sep 14, 2009 2:19 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidThey are not going to PUNISH Venus for Serena's actions hence the fine and the possible ban of suspensions from several slams next season. If they were to plan her from the doubles the USTA would have a law suit on their hands.

    Therefore she will play in the doubles final.



    I totally agree with you on both comments that you have left. While I do not condone what she may have said, her conduct was unbecoming as a professional. Other players in tournaments, even at this Open have done some questionable things. She has been fined and an investigation is under way. If further evidence is produced, being fined and possible suspension could be in order. But until then, we should let them get all of the findings in before talks of banning or suspension is brought up.
    She is a great athlete and has been one of several who have helped put the women's game where it is today. This was a momentous occasion and things got out of control. I am sure she regrets what has happened.
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    Sep 14, 2009 4:56 PM GMT
    Epiphany1882 saidOnce the final report comes through, and all the investigations are done we should see. I think its fair that she plays until the committee is done with their investigation.

    However the comments that she should be banned forever, no. If she did make those comments, then maybe for this tournament. But not for every tournament that they put on.

    Even Michael Vick is playing football again. Was what she did as bad as his offense? I'm thinking no.


    Well obviously not forever. I think she should be suspended.
  • jrs1

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    Sep 14, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    xrichx saidIn comparison, wasn't McEnroe worse during his days? icon_lol.gif


    ... good point.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 14, 2009 5:03 PM GMT
    I think losing the semi final match in the US OPEN by a point violation, not to mention the subsequent fines she has been slapped with, is probably punishment enough and I am sure Serena will learn from this.

    That said, she should be given a sturn warning prior to the Doubles final that any unsportsman-like outbursts and she will be defaulted immediately.
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    Sep 14, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
    jrs1 said
    xrichx saidIn comparison, wasn't McEnroe worse during his days? icon_lol.gif


    ... good point.


    Yes and I am sure he was punished and banned as well. Agassi was also famous for this. He was penalized as well.
  • silverfox

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    Sep 14, 2009 5:10 PM GMT
    NOTE FROM THE OP:

    Ah, Serena apologizes. One hour before her match today. Too little too late?

    Me thinks.
  • groundcombat

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    Sep 14, 2009 5:14 PM GMT
    I watched it on YouTube and it didn't seem that bad to me. Certainly not ideal behavior but not as far beyond the realm of reality as disussion makes it seem. Granted I'm not sure what the rules governing tennis conduct are, but I think the circumstances are punishment enough. Managers and
    players in other sports, particularly baseball get ejected all the time for saying things out of line. And yes, sometimes those ejections are pivitol. I don't necessarily see the need for fines or suspensions, unless that's what tennis does in these circumstances. It seems tennis already had this sort of thing figured out (with the penalty point).
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    Sep 14, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    It's never to late to apologize. What you never lost your temper Silver and said things are done something that you regret. DSon't presume that you know what going on in Serena's head because NO BODY on this site or in these blogs know her. You only get a glimpse to see one side of her that is the competitor and she is a fierce competitor who hates to lose and is a very poor loser this is not news.

    What she did was stupid! Mac has done worse. I knoe I have let my temper get the best of me at times and said some pretty mean things to some one they were true but still I could have handled the situation diffrently.

    What's the saying to error is human to forgive Devine!
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    Sep 14, 2009 6:52 PM GMT
    The sisters just won 6-2 6-2. the are now 10-0 of SLAM titles when they have mad it to the finals!
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    Sep 14, 2009 8:44 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidIt's never to late to apologize. What you never lost your temper Silver and said things are done something that you regret. DSon't presume that you know what going on in Serena's head because NO BODY on this site or in these blogs know her. You only get a glimpse to see one side of her that is the competitor and she is a fierce competitor who hates to lose and is a very poor loser this is not news.

    What she did was stupid! Mac has done worse. I knoe I have let my temper get the best of me at times and said some pretty mean things to some one they were true but still I could have handled the situation diffrently.

    What's the saying to error is human to forgive Devine!


    Yeah to error is human nature and sure she should be forgiven. No one is arguing that she should be kicked out of the sport or put in prison. She did threaten to kill the lines judge. That should not be tolerated (especially in a sport like Tennis). We can still forgive and punish.