President Obama called a liar in Congress: You Answer the Question.

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    Sep 15, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
    I just finished an advisory committee meeting of a large metrolpolitian hospital in regards to closure of a dialysis clinic. The clinic provides dialysis for 90 patients pro bono. The average dialysis cost is $75,000 per year. Depending on the patients condition, additional costs range from $20,000 to approximately $180,000 per year.

    Of the 90 patients, 60 are in the U.S. illegally. The state in which these individuals reside does not allow medicaid funds to be used to provide dialysis services to illegals. In most cases, should these individuals return to their native countries, their native country will not pay for it either.

    President Obama has stated universal coverage -- and I assume in this case through the public option -- will not cover medical care for illegal aliens. One solution of course is to suddenly make illegals....... well legal. That way we can couch our words most carefully and not be accused of lieing.

    Our solution -- the advisory committee (the one with the purse strings) -- was to provide relocation services. Yes. We're going to move dialysis patients and their families to one of the following states: New York, North Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, Washington, Virginia, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Ohio, Illinois, and Wisconsin. These states allow medicaid to be used to treat illegal aliens.

    These are Obama states where you voted via your support to foot the bill.

    Ya'll have fun.
  • superboy32

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    Sep 15, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
    Whether it political or racial, the attack on the president was totally uncalled for. What little respect people have or had for the government is being ruined by ill mannered asshole all over the place. Give Obama some credit, the guy is trying and making changes and arrangements that the Bush administration failed to do and he has to reverse 8 years of shit in 4. If anyone want's to call a president a liar they should have done is 2-7 years ago. Thanks Captain Asshole (Bush) for giving Obama a year from hell.

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    Sep 15, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    twomack saidI just finished an advisory committee meeting of a large metrolpolitian hospital in regards to closure of a dialysis clinic. The clinic provides dialysis for 90 patients pro bono. The average dialysis cost is $75,000 per year. Depending on the patients condition, additional costs range from $20,000 to approximately $180,000 per year.

    Of the 90 patients, 60 are in the U.S. illegally. The state in which these individuals reside does not allow medicaid funds to be used to provide dialysis services to illegals. In most cases, should these individuals return to their native countries, their native country will not pay for it either.

    President Obama has stated universal coverage -- and I assume in this case through the public option -- will not cover medical care for illegal aliens. One solution of course is to suddenly make illegals....... well legal. That way we can couch our words most carefully and not be accused of lieing.

    Our solution -- the advisory committee (the one with the purse strings) -- was to provide relocation services. Yes. We're going to move dialysis patients and their families to one of the following states: New York, North Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, Washington, Virginia, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Ohio, Illinois, and Wisconsin. These states allow medicaid to be used to treat illegal aliens.

    These are Obama states where you voted via your support to foot the bill.

    Ya'll have fun.


    There are no words to describe how utterly classless you are.


    How about mudda fvking stupid!
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    Sep 15, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    If you know 60 people are here ILLEGALLY why haven't u WHISTLE BLOWEDicon_question.gif ur worst than a still born complaining now...icon_rolleyes.gif
  • wellwell

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    Sep 15, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    man, you're deranged; B.O. doesn't give a krap about you. His concerns are exclusively for his Marxist owners (that's the people pulling his puppet-strings), the bilderberg group
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    Sep 15, 2009 1:53 AM GMT
    wellwell saidman, you're deranged; B.O. doesn't give a krap about you. His concerns are exclusively for his Marxist owners (that's the people pulling his puppet-strings), the bilderberg group


    You seem rather close to your lassie
  • dantoujours

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:02 AM GMT
    Teh Stupid lives on doesn't it?

    You are conflating different things.

    One important thing you conveniently left out is the fact that illegal aliens don't get a free ride in this country. They pay taxes too. Many pay income and Social Security taxes (but never draw Social Security benefits) and all pay sales and property taxes (some indirectly through rent.) Since they are generally paid less for the same work Americans do, the money saved by their employers is also channelled into other savings or investment which helps grow the economy (unfair but is the way it is.)

    There is probably going to be an another amnesty just like there was under Reagan and most of these people will be made legal, because it makes business sense to do so. The anti-immigrant hype is much more fed by xenophobia than logic anyway. We need young and strong immigrants to counterbalance the ageing White population. THEY will pay for our Social Security/Medicare.

    Healthcare and immigration reform are two separate issues. Both are overdue for reform.

    And it's "lying" not "lieing". Don't be a moran.
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:09 AM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    wellwell saidman, you're deranged; B.O. doesn't give a krap about you. His concerns are exclusively for his Marxist owners (that's the people pulling his puppet-strings), the bilderberg group


    You seem rather close to your lassie


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    Sep 15, 2009 2:14 AM GMT
    twomack saidI just finished an advisory committee meeting of a large metrolpolitian hospital in regards to closure of a dialysis clinic. The clinic provides dialysis for 90 patients pro bono. The average dialysis cost is $75,000 per year. Depending on the patients condition, additional costs range from $20,000 to approximately $180,000 per year.

    Of the 90 patients, 60 are in the U.S. illegally. The state in which these individuals reside does not allow medicaid funds to be used to provide dialysis services to illegals. In most cases, should these individuals return to their native countries, their native country will not pay for it either.

    President Obama has stated universal coverage -- and I assume in this case through the public option -- will not cover medical care for illegal aliens. One solution of course is to suddenly make illegals....... well legal. That way we can couch our words most carefully and not be accused of lieing.

    Our solution -- the advisory committee (the one with the purse strings) -- was to provide relocation services. Yes. We're going to move dialysis patients and their families to one of the following states: New York, North Carolina, Florida, New Jersey, Washington, Virginia, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Ohio, Illinois, and Wisconsin. These states allow medicaid to be used to treat illegal aliens.

    These are Obama states where you voted via your support to foot the bill.

    Ya'll have fun.


    With "you answer the question" in the thread title, and no question in the actual post, someone looks just as silly as Joe Wilson right now.

    I'm having fun indeed!
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:15 AM GMT

    My goodness, how Democrat of Reagan.

    "There is probably going to be an another amnesty just like there was under Reagan"

  • dantoujours

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:17 AM GMT
    It's as every bit Republican as Democrat.

    The push for amnesties have mostly come from the business and agricultural community which wanted the cheap labour without fear of prosecution.

    It was GW Bush that last pushed for immigration reform but lost to the xenophobic wing of the Republican party, which still wants America to be White and Christian.
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:20 AM GMT

    Thanks, Dan! icon_wink.gif
  • miamihamilton

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
    Obama has lied from day number one. Remember the 3 trillion in stimulus that had to be signed or we would see heaven forbid 8% unemployment? A lie. Unemployment is 9.7% and rapidly rising. Bush didn't do that. The war in Iraq? Bush stated clearly that he was doing it to prevent any more terrorist attacks on American soil. It worked. Obama promised to bring the troops home from the Middle East. Another lie, he is pulling them from Iraq and placing them in Afghanistan. Obama promised that all bills would be on the White House website for public review before anything was passed. Another lie. Say what you want about Bush but during those 8 years the country was safe, everyone made money and like what he had to say or not, you could believe what came out of his mouth. Who in their right mind could ever think that a 1 term senator with 1 1/2 years of political experience could ever run a country? He has never run a town, city, state or company for that matter. How about his affiliations? His reverend or his position with the now every so obviously corrupt Acorn? Why does everyone keep calling him black? He is half white and calling him black is labeling him by the color of his skin. Isn't labeling someone by their skin color by definition racism? Honestly let's get someone in there who knows what they are doing and has the experience and common sense to back up their plans. One last thing, Bush was called a liar publicly and to his face many times and apologies never crossed anyones mind. Some speaks their mind (and tells the truth) by calling this idiot president liar and the whole world comes to an end. How come Nancy Pelosi didn't apologize for calling Tea Party protestors Nazis? Keep the faith people, only 18 months until mid term elections!
  • dantoujours

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    Wow. You really have all those Faux News talking points down don't you?

    Let's see... We all know that Bush lied about the Iraq War which cost $3 trillion and hundreds of thousands of lives. He lied about its cost, he lied about its objectives, there were no WMDs and Saddam had already been defanged and wasn't an imminent threat, but no one interrupted him in Congress during his speeches. What happened to Obama was unprecedented.

    The Iraq War did nothing to stop terrorist attacks from occurring on American soil. There were never any terrorist attacks launched from Iraq or involved Iraqis at all. Al-Qaeda hated Saddam because Saddam was a secularist who imprisoned and executed Islamicists in Iraq.

    The stimulus package started in the Bush term, due to a recession which itself caused by Republican policies. But the Bush/Paulson bank bailout cost much more than the stimulus package, and that was done by Bush as well.

    Obama made no promises about unemployment numbers.

    And Nancy Pelosi never called the Teabaggers "Nazis". She noted that some were showing up wearing swastikas, which is true and have circulated in photographs.

    But keep the faith, buddy. Don't like pesky facts get in the way. Good luck with those midterms! Hannity/Palin for 2012!
  • SkyMiles

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:43 AM GMT
    Oh, teabaggin', racist republicans...is there any lie or fake story you won't spread to try and get your way?

    I'm sorry that your ideology is sh*t, mired our county in war and nearly flatlined the economy. But the scary, scary black man is president now so you'll just have to learn to live with it for awhile. It's called an "election". It is an expression of something called "democracy".

    BTW, for the official record, Wilson lied (and Obama did not):

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/sep/09/joe-wilson/joe-wilson-south-carolina-said-obama-lied-he-didnt/
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:44 AM GMT
    Who called him a liar? No one! LOL! icon_surprised.gif
  • miamihamilton

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:50 AM GMT
    Don't you mean Palin/Limbaugh 2012? Simply watch Fox News and you will see and hear clips backing up everything I have said. Bush found out later there no WMD's so what. Too late by then. In typical Democratic fashion you have glossed over the fact that Obama is sending all the troops to Afghanistan when he promised not to. Why? If the Bush war was so bad why is Obama doing the same thing in Afghanistan? Bush started the stim package to bail out AIG because Obamas buddies in charge of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who by the way collected tens of millions of dollars in bonuses which no one asked to be returned to write all those bad mortgage loans that AIG insured. Who's idea was it to buy GM and Chrysler? As for Iraq, you are correct in your statement. All Iraq, Afghanistan and most of the Saudi Royal Family was harbor and finance Bin-Laden. Who cares about Saddam? All he did was get in the of the oil production we so desperately needed.
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:54 AM GMT
    dMostWanted saidWho called him a liar? No one! LOL! icon_surprised.gif


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    Sep 15, 2009 2:56 AM GMT
    Clearly the "divide and conquer" plan still continues to work amongst humans. People just need to sit back, and observe from a bird's eye viewpoint what's really going on. The media and government work together to divide us, so we are left confused, unsure, and uncertain what to believe anymore, so they can conquer us and tell us what to think and what to believe. It's called "MIND CONTROL".
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    Sep 15, 2009 2:57 AM GMT
    miamihamilton saidDon't you mean Palin/Limbaugh 2012? Simply watch Fox News and you will see and hear clips backing up everything I have said. Bush found out later there no WMD's so what. Too late by then. In typical Democratic fashion you have glossed over the fact that Obama is sending all the troops to Afghanistan when he promised not to. Why? If the Bush war was so bad why is Obama doing the same thing in Afghanistan? Bush started the stim package to bail out AIG because Obamas buddies in charge of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who by the way collected tens of millions of dollars in bonuses which no one asked to be returned to write all those bad mortgage loans that AIG insured. Who's idea was it to buy GM and Chrysler? As for Iraq, you are correct in your statement. All Iraq, Afghanistan and most of the Saudi Royal Family was harbor and finance Bin-Laden. Who cares about Saddam? All he did was get in the of the oil production we so desperately needed.





    So what? You still have to work tomorow dear! Congrats to them! Now give Bush and his team a kiss in the cheek on my behalf! icon_wink.gif
  • miamihamilton

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    Sep 15, 2009 2:59 AM GMT
    What an amazingly accurate description of the situation. You have stated exactly what is going on without taking a political stance or insulting anyone. You just might be the most intelligent one here. Maybe a little paranoid but intelligent for sure.
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    dMostWanted saidWho called him a liar? No one! LOL! icon_surprised.gif


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    Sep 15, 2009 3:02 AM GMT
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    miamihamilton saidDon't you mean Palin/Limbaugh 2012? Simply watch Fox News and you will see and hear clips backing up everything I have said. Bush found out later there no WMD's so what. Too late by then. In typical Democratic fashion you have glossed over the fact that Obama is sending all the troops to Afghanistan when he promised not to. Why? If the Bush war was so bad why is Obama doing the same thing in Afghanistan? Bush started the stim package to bail out AIG because Obamas buddies in charge of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who by the way collected tens of millions of dollars in bonuses which no one asked to be returned to write all those bad mortgage loans that AIG insured. Who's idea was it to buy GM and Chrysler? As for Iraq, you are correct in your statement. All Iraq, Afghanistan and most of the Saudi Royal Family was harbor and finance Bin-Laden. Who cares about Saddam? All he did was get in the of the oil production we so desperately needed.





    So what? You still have to work tomorow dear! Congrats to them! Now give Bush and his team a kiss in the cheek on my behalf! icon_wink.gif


    True I have work tomorrow. I am not one of those Obama supporters that believed while he was in office all my bills would be paid for.
  • dantoujours

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    Sep 15, 2009 3:05 AM GMT
    Don't you mean Palin/Limbaugh 2012?

    Ugh... I don't want to lose my dinner.

    Simply watch Fox News and you will see and hear clips backing up everything I have said.

    Watching Fox News is your first problem. It's right-wing propaganda. You are being lied to.

    Bush found out later there no WMD's so what. Too late by then.

    He did not "find out". He lied about the whole thing. Intelligence was FABRICATED. The CIA and other intelligence agencies were under pressure to say what his administration had told them to say. That has been documented and presented on mainstream news agencies.

    And you wouldn't be saying "so what?" if it was your brother who died in a war started based on lies.

    In typical Democratic fashion you have glossed over the fact that Obama is sending all the troops to Afghanistan when he promised not to. Why?


    And in typical head-up-your-ass fashion you are either misinformed or lying. In the campaign Obama said he was going to beef up the U.S. presence in Afghanistan.

    Here is a article from 2008 where he says this:

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/20/obama.afghanistan/

    Here is a direct quote from the article:

    Obama said troop levels must increase in Afghanistan.

    "For at least a year now, I have called for two additional brigades, perhaps three," he told CBS. "I think it's very important that we unify command more effectively to coordinate our military activities.


    If the Bush war was so bad why is Obama doing the same thing in Afghanistan?

    You are confusing two different wars started under different circumstances. The Afghanistan War had the backing of the U.N. and NATO in direct response to the 2001 attacks. Iraq was a costly fiasco based on a lie directed toward a country that posed no threat to the U.S. You'll notice that people were not protesting Afghanistan, they were protesting Iraq.


    Bush started the stim package to bail out AIG because Obamas buddies in charge of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who by the way collected tens of millions of dollars in bonuses which no one asked to be returned to write all those bad mortgage loans that AIG insured.


    Nice try. But the buddies in charge of Freddie and Fannie were Bush buddies.

    Who's idea was it to buy GM and Chrysler?

    They didn't have a choice. If the government didn't take them over they would have gone backrupt and literally hundreds of thousands of Americans would have lost their jobs. The Great Recession would have become the Great Depression II.

    As for Iraq, you are correct in your statement. All Iraq, Afghanistan and most of the Saudi Royal Family was harbor and finance Bin-Laden. Who cares about Saddam? All he did was get in the of the oil production we so desperately needed.

    This makes no sense. You are confusing completely different places, countries and families and different policies towards Al Qaeda.
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    Sep 15, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
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    miamihamilton saidDon't you mean Palin/Limbaugh 2012? Simply watch Fox News and you will see and hear clips backing up everything I have said. Bush found out later there no WMD's so what. Too late by then. In typical Democratic fashion you have glossed over the fact that Obama is sending all the troops to Afghanistan when he promised not to. Why? If the Bush war was so bad why is Obama doing the same thing in Afghanistan? Bush started the stim package to bail out AIG because Obamas buddies in charge of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who by the way collected tens of millions of dollars in bonuses which no one asked to be returned to write all those bad mortgage loans that AIG insured. Who's idea was it to buy GM and Chrysler? As for Iraq, you are correct in your statement. All Iraq, Afghanistan and most of the Saudi Royal Family was harbor and finance Bin-Laden. Who cares about Saddam? All he did was get in the of the oil production we so desperately needed.





    So what? You still have to work tomorow dear! Congrats to them! Now give Bush and his team a kiss in the cheek on my behalf! icon_wink.gif


    True I have work tomorrow. I am not one of those Obama supporters that believed while he was in office all my bills would be paid for.





    Yup! And keep watching Fox News dear!