Wilson Called A Racist....

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:17 PM GMT
    As if my opinion of Obama wasn't low enough, this just really puts the icing on the cake for me.....

    So apparently a congressman from Georgia is calling Joe Wilson a racist for his "you lie" comment. So what, are we racist now if we disagree with the Messiah? It's absolute BULLSHIT! I'm so tired of all this racist shit. The blacks are being more racist than anybody in my opinion.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:33 PM GMT

    He didn't just disagree. He blatantly insulted the man. If Obama were white, sure the republicans would disagree with him some of the time, but would they outright insult him to the level it's been happening?

    The Messiah. You are so patronizing and nasty in your op. What did he do to deserve that? Has he, himself even hinted at racism? No, the circumstances have done that for him.

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
    gayblaketx saidAs if my opinion of Obama wasn't low enough, this just really puts the icing on the cake for me.....

    So apparently a congressman from Georgia is calling Joe Wilson a racist for his "you lie" comment. So what, are we racist now if we disagree with the Messiah? It's absolute BULLSHIT! I'm so tired of all this racist shit. The blacks are being more racist than anybody in my opinion.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/

    Please connect the dots for me: how do the comments of a Member of Congress from Georgia relate to your opinion of Obama?

    And since you lack the savvy to properly post a link here, I'll provide it myself as a courtesy:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/
  • GQjock

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    Figures .....

    Mr Wilson isn't from Georgia He's from the great State of South Carolina icon_rolleyes.gif

    AND he was an assistant to that great statesman Strom Thurmond who impregnated his "colored" (his words not mine) help
    and kept his black daughter a secret until he was well into his nineties

    Wilson vociferously stated that Thurmond did NOTHING WRONG and was an UPSTANDING MAN

    This is the Joe Wilson you're defending
    And BTW.......

    for future reference when another congressman calls a President a liar on the congressioanl floor
    It's specifically forbidden in the Congressional code of ethics

  • JP85257

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
    I have about as much respect for Obama as I do Hillary, Edwards or ANY dem that could have been elected president.

    My opinion of Obama is almost as low as it is of Carter.
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:45 PM GMT
    Oh please....

    Blood is thicker than water, ok (or so they say). Obama has had his fair share of disturbing, racially charged comments. Boy how easy we forget the Cambridge inncident.....

    Wilson's comment had nothing to do with race! He simply disagreed with him. Obama said the Republicans haven't come to the table, yet Congressman from that side of the isle were holding up drafts of a healthcare bill. HELLO....

    Furthermore, I would agree that Wilson was out of line. But to be called a racist is bullshit and you know it.
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
    GQjock saidFigures .....

    Mr Wilson isn't from Georgia He's from the great State of South Carolina icon_rolleyes.gif

    AND he was an assistant to that great statesman Strom Thurmond who impregnated his "colored" (his words not mine) help
    and kept his black daughter a secret until he was well into his nineties

    Wilson vociferously stated that Thurmond did NOTHING WRONG and was an UPSTANDING MAN

    This is the Joe Wilson you're defending
    And BTW.......

    for future reference when another congressman calls a President a liar on the congressioanl floor
    It's specifically forbidden in the Congressional code of ethics



    Can you read or are you just that ignorant? I didn't say Wilson was from Georgia.....
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:50 PM GMT
    gayblaketx saidAs if my opinion of Obama wasn't low enough, this just really puts the icing on the cake for me.....

    So apparently a congressman from Georgia is calling Joe Wilson a racist for his "you lie" comment. So what, are we racist now if we disagree with the Messiah? It's absolute BULLSHIT! I'm so tired of all this racist shit. The blacks are being more racist than anybody in my opinion.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/


    I rest my case
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:52 PM GMT
    GQjock said
    gayblaketx saidAs if my opinion of Obama wasn't low enough, this just really puts the icing on the cake for me.....

    So apparently a congressman from Georgia is calling Joe Wilson a racist for his "you lie" comment. So what, are we racist now if we disagree with the Messiah? It's absolute BULLSHIT! I'm so tired of all this racist shit. The blacks are being more racist than anybody in my opinion.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/congressman-people-don-white-hoods-wilson-rebuked/


    I rest my case


    A CONGRESSMAN (HANK JOHNSON-DGa) FROM GEORGIA HAS CALLED WILSON.....WILSON ISN'T FROM GEORGIA, RETARD!
  • silverfox

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    IMHO......

    It seems to me that those who were opposed to Obama before the election...decided that, no matter what happened...they would never support the man and his programs. Period.

    This was a decision that was made and it is as if it was in stone.

    When I read threads like this, I don't even bother with anger. It is beyond any kind of emotion for me. Numbness.

    Why?

    Because I know...regardless of what you may think of the President, a congressman should not call him a "liar" on national TV and show (THE TERRORISTS GOD FORBID!) the world that we may not be a united front.

    Because I know..... children should not have to get permission slips signed in order to see the President's address to the students of this nation.

    It is all not worth getting angry about. Those on the far right are set in their ways (and perhaps the rest of us are as well).

    Kind of off subject I guess but I had to say it.

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    Sep 15, 2009 6:55 PM GMT
    And to connect the dots, I don't see Obama stepping forward debunking that this was indeed a racial comment. I think they all thrive on this shit.....
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    Sep 15, 2009 6:56 PM GMT
    silverfox1 saidIMHO......

    It seems to me that those who were opposed to Obama before the election...decided that, no matter what happened...they would never support the man and his programs. Period.

    This was a decision that was made and it is as if it was in stone.

    When I read threads like this, I don't even bother with anger. It is beyond any kind of emotion for me. Numbness.

    Why?

    Because I know...regardless of what you may think of the President, a congressman should not call him a "liar" on national TV and show (THE TERRORISTS GOD FORBID!) the world that we may not be a united front.

    Because I know..... children should not have to get permission slips signed in order to see the President's address to the students of this nation.

    It is all not worth getting angry about. Those on the far right are set in their ways (and perhaps the rest of us are as well).

    Kind of off subject I guess but I had to say it.



    You have a valid point. But the point remains that Hank Johnson D-Ga has called Joe Wilson R-Sc, a racist and it's not right. It was not racially chared.
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
    the title describes the thread?
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:02 PM GMT

    Hank Johnson is from Georgia.

    From this Canadian's perspective, I think that the President wouldn't have been called 'liar' like that if the Prez was Joe Biden.

    -Doug
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:04 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidthe title describes the thread?


    Better?
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Hank Johnson is from Georgia.

    From this Canadian's perspective, I think that the President wouldn't have been called 'liar' like that if the Prez was Joe Biden.

    -Doug


    But that's a lot of if's and were's. Who knows what would have happened. It would have been on thing if he had stood up and yelled a slur or something that is unequivical to a racial belittling. He simply called him a liar. My god, in the House of Commons, they trash each other religiously. I guess they're all traitors for hating "their own kind?"
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    Let's clarify here, since some seem to be more interested in confusing the issue than addressing it, a typical Republican tactic. Addison Graves Wilson (nicknamed Joe) is a Member of Congress from South Carolina. You may remember that as the state whose Republican Governor Mark Sanford recently went AWOL to South America to be with his mistress.

    The anti-Wilson comments in question here came from a Black Member of Congress from Georgia's 4th Congressional District, Hank Johnson (D).

    Now per the OP, I would still like to know what the relationship of President Obama is to that Congressman's remarks. One may debate those remarks on their merit, but I fail to see the involvement with Obama personally. Please tell us.
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
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    gayblaketx saidAnd to connect the dots, I don't see Obama stepping forward debunking that this was indeed a racial comment. I think they all thrive on this shit.....

    Oh, so it was Obama's duty to take heed of this? And comment on it?

    Wow. You write the rules, do you?


    I'm not claiming to do anything. I simply stated an opinion that Wilson is getting a raw deal. It's ridiculous to be called a racist simply for disagreeing with the president.

    President Bush was called everything in the book (grant it, not during a nationally televised speech on the house floor, but because Almighty Obama is President, somehow it's different. What, because he's half black? Is that why the man practically walks on water? What has he done that is just so outstanding? I mean I want to really know why Presidents Lincoln, FDR, Jackson, and others weren't better? Why Why WHY??
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:13 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidLet's clarify here, since some seem to be more interested in confusing the issue than addressing it, a typical Republican tactic. Addison Graves Wilson (nicknamed Joe) is a Member of Congress from South Carolina. You may remember that as the state whose Republican Governor Mark Sanford recently went AWOL to South America to be with his mistress.

    The anti-Wilson comments in question here came from a Black Member of Congress from Georgia's 4th Congressional District, Hank Johnson (D).

    Now per the OP, I would still like to know what the relationship of President Obama is to that Congressman's remarks. One may debate those remarks on their merit, but I fail to see the involvement with Obama personally. Please tell us.


    Please tell me Red, what does the AWOL governor have to do with the congressman? Typical....
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    Sep 15, 2009 7:26 PM GMT
    gayblaketx said...President Bush was called everything in the book (grant it, not during a nationally televised speech on the house floor, but because Almighty Obama is President, somehow it's different. What, because he's half black? Is that why the man practically walks on water? What has he done that is just so outstanding? I mean I want to really know why Presidents Lincoln, FDR, Jackson, and others weren't better? Why Why WHY??

    Bush was called many things, and continues to be, but not a liar in a Joint Session of Congress. Nor was Lincoln, FDR or Jackson. You simply don't know your history, though you yourself admit it was never previously done "during a nationally televised speech on the house floor." That's exactly what we're talking about here.

    Joe Wilson violated House rules, and that is beyond dispute. Why do you defend his breach of protocol & decorum, before an international audience that embarrassed the US and our Congress? Are we some third world country that suffers from chaos & anarchy? Is that how you see us?
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    Sep 15, 2009 8:05 PM GMT
    You're getting you panties into some righteous knot my good man
    for some lout who basically has draped himself in KKK robes his entire career

    Joe Wilson belonged to the Sons of Confederate Veterans, led a 2000 campaign to keep the Confederate flag waving above South Carolina’s state Capitol and denounced as a “smear” the true claim of a black woman that she was the daughter of Strom Thurmond, the ’48 segregationist candidate for president.

    What else you want him to do to show that he's a racist?
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    Sep 15, 2009 8:08 PM GMT
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    Lostboy saidthe title describes the thread?


    Better?


    LOL.Who knows if Wilson´s comments were direct racism. But they were direct stupidity. There may be an undercurrent of anti black ideology in some parts of the right. I think it not unlikely, and certainly some people spend time looking for such things.
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    Sep 15, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    The word was LIAR



    And yelled in a political arena by opposition.


    How is this defined as racism?

    There's your simple question.



    and spare me the bullshit rhetoric that the "offender" is a white southerner yelling at a black man (president or otherwise) -- Racism is not geographically defined (it's a universal issue of all nations, states, religions and color of skin)... period
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    Sep 16, 2009 12:04 AM GMT
    Who said that he is this outstanding man or Messiah? C'mon, give us the real reasons why you hate him. And by the way, you lost all credibility when you supported that asshole President Jackson. That was the fucker that did the Trail of Tears. How convenient that you support these people with backgrounds that benefit and support the majority ethnic group! (I didn't want to say "racist" since you believe that blacks are being more racist and I don't want to be lumped in that group)

    "Jackson's attitude toward Native Americans was paternalistic and patronizing -- he described them as children in need of guidance. and believed the removal policy was beneficial to the Indians."

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aia/part4/4p2959.html
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    Sep 16, 2009 1:33 AM GMT
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    gayblaketx said...President Bush was called everything in the book (grant it, not during a nationally televised speech on the house floor, but because Almighty Obama is President, somehow it's different. What, because he's half black? Is that why the man practically walks on water? What has he done that is just so outstanding? I mean I want to really know why Presidents Lincoln, FDR, Jackson, and others weren't better? Why Why WHY??

    Bush was called many things, and continues to be, but not a liar in a Joint Session of Congress. Nor was Lincoln, FDR or Jackson. You simply don't know your history, though you yourself admit it was never previously done "during a nationally televised speech on the house floor." That's exactly what we're talking about here.

    Joe Wilson violated House rules, and that is beyond dispute. Why do you defend his breach of protocol & decorum, before an international audience that embarrassed the US and our Congress? Are we some third world country that suffers from chaos & anarchy? Is that how you see us?


    I don't see at anytime the originator of the thread defending any breach of House protocol, in fact he agreed Wilson was out of line. The question is, why is his breach of protocol racist? I have yet to see any serious attempt to answer this question.