HOPE!

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    Sep 17, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    "Hope is the most evil of evils, because it prolongs man's torment."
    Hope brings me nothing and I am totally agree with Nietzsche...
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    Sep 17, 2009 2:38 AM GMT
    it is hope that distinguishes man from animal
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    Sep 17, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    I love hope. Otherwise we won't strive for anything. If you get all existensialist (excuse the spelling) and stuff you can argue that there is essentially not point to anything so we may as well just die now. I don't believe that to be true and this is one reason that I believe Religion is still alive today.

    PS I'm not really religious myself. I wouldn't say I'm an Aethiest though. Again please excuse my spelling.
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    Sep 17, 2009 3:16 AM GMT
    bernd saidit is hope that distinguishes man from animal


    No one who has watched a cat or dog in the kitchen while dinner was being prepared could believe that they do not hope.
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:03 AM GMT
    Magnus08 said"Hope is the most evil of evils, because it prolongs man's torment."
    Hope brings me nothing and I am totally agree with Nietzsche...
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    HOPE is the seed of a flower call FAITH,
    that in time may turn into a fruit call LOVE,
    to those who hungers for knowledge that
    beyond his own!!



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    Sep 17, 2009 4:12 AM GMT
    bernd saidit is hope that distinguishes man from animal
    My dog hopes I give him lots of treats when I come home. He lays in front of his food bowl sometimes in hope that he will get more icon_eek.gif and if that doesn't work he scoots the bowl in front of me and hopes I notice!! icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:27 AM GMT
    Hope keeps me going. Hope, when realistic, is a wonderful thing.
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:32 AM GMT
    I think the OP must be a heck of a lot of fun at parties. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:34 AM GMT
    Unrealistic hope is the torment...
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:35 AM GMT
    bernd saidit is hope that distinguishes man from animal


    no, that's sentience.
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    Sep 17, 2009 4:40 AM GMT
    Fable said
    bernd saidit is hope that distinguishes man from animal


    no, that's sentience.


    agreed.


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    Sep 17, 2009 4:43 AM GMT
    Hope precedes Faith in the religious world

    Both are invisible masks. True!

    I follow my gut instincts. I lead and then receive.

    I believe that positive energy will dictate your path.

    I follow quantum physics. The true hope of the universe.

    DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE CLOAK OF HOPE!!

    GET OFF YOUR ASS AND MAKE IT HAPPEN!!


    VISUALIZE IT IN YOUR MIND. SEE IT HAPPENING. IT WILL HAPPEN!!!
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    Sep 17, 2009 2:05 PM GMT
    Ah... nihilism...

    "Nihilist und Christ: das reimt sich, das reimt sich nicht bloss."

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    Sep 17, 2009 2:21 PM GMT

    lol, what a word to play with!

    "I hope to get published" ...and inspired by that hope, I worked hard and did.

    "I hope to make friends on RJ" ...did that, too.

    "I hope all my American cousins get the right to marry."

    you see, Magnus08, hope can be used as a powerful tool in motivation. It's not the hoping that's bad, just how some apply it.

    Why do people buy lottery tickets? Because they hope they'll win.

    Why do many gay men come here, go to clubs, social events, house parties, sports games etc? They hope they'll meet someone.
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    Sep 17, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
    "Hope there's someone
    Who'll take care of me
    When I die, Will I go

    Hope there's someone
    Who'll set my heart free
    Nice to hold when I'm tired"

    lyrics from 'Hope There's Someone' Antony and The Johnsons

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    Sep 17, 2009 3:09 PM GMT
    For me, there is a difference between "hope" and "wishful thinking."
    I believe that it is wishful thinking torments the soul, whereas hope can keep it alive in the worst of circumstances.
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    Sep 17, 2009 3:09 PM GMT
    Yogi4Life saidUnrealistic hope is the torment...


    Amen to that!
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    Sep 17, 2009 3:28 PM GMT


    "Hope springs eternal in the human soul."



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    Sep 17, 2009 3:34 PM GMT


    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    "If you lose hope, somehow you lose the vitality that keeps life moving, you lose that courage to be, that quality that helps you go on in spite of it all. And so today I still have a dream."

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    Sep 17, 2009 3:38 PM GMT


    Winston Churchill, "The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."

    and Lin Yutang, "Hope is like a road in the country; there was never a road, but when many people walk on it, the road comes into existence."


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    Sep 17, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
    meninlove saidWinston Churchill, "The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."

    I would sometimes run into this in the US Army. I'd assemble my staff, or some other group to advise me, as we formulated a plan to deal with some mission or objective we'd been given.

    And not infrequently there'd be one person, usually an older and more senior Sergeant, who'd raise an objection at every step. I'd begin to realize that he thought his biggest contribution would be in smugly shooting down every proposal made by others, thereby proving his superior experience & knowledge over his younger colleagues. Problem was, we weren't making any progress, except to hear his litany of what COULDN'T be done.

    Finally I would have had enough. "Sergeant, we're here to succeed, not to fail. We've been given a job to do, and that's what we're going to do. I appreciate there will be obstacles, but I also expect to hear some solutions once in a while. Now let's concentrate on those." (or words to that effect)
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    Sep 17, 2009 8:41 PM GMT
    So it's safe to say that...... I HOPE a man will catch me bfore I die?


    HAHA
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    Sep 17, 2009 9:13 PM GMT
    If there is room for hope..even 1 in a million chance you should have hope. If there is logically no place for hope then it is only stupid to be hopeful.

    Its not black and white... Just like anything else in life you cant paint it with a broad brush and say it all the same. Every situation needs a different approach.
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    Sep 18, 2009 1:31 AM GMT
    Harvey Milk said: "You gotta give 'em hope."

    I think he meant a reason to live, even though you're a gay man living in a small town, surrounded by homophobia. It's okay to be gay. You are not the only one. You have choices: to stay and fight, or to move away to a place where there are more gay people, more equal rights, and more opportunities to live your life openly and freely and maybe meet "Mr. Right."
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    I don't hope.
    To me, it's like making a wish.
    And, that seems empty.
    I'm in favor of affirmations and willing everything to be the way you want it to be. It sounds like hocus pocus, but it actually puts you in the right attitude to achieve what you want to achieve, whether it's finding a parking space, or finding a job.
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    Sep 18, 2009 1:33 AM GMT
    'Tis slipping away at an alarming rate...icon_cry.gif