I applaud President Obama's decision to revise a plan to deploy a missile defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland.

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    Sep 17, 2009 11:06 PM GMT
    The President made this decision based upon solid sound advice from within the defense community. He is to be applauded for his decision.
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    Sep 17, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
    It was a waste of money and it alienated Russia at the same time
    Time to move on .... it's a new world
    Big Bad Russia isn't there anymore
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    Sep 17, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
    We need to forget about the Czar and concentrate on containing the Ottoman Empire. We must not disrupt the trade from India. THE SPICE MUST FLOW!
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    Sep 17, 2009 11:39 PM GMT
    Whatever happened to star wars? I wanna see a bad ass laser light show from space. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 18, 2009 12:10 AM GMT
    I love what an absolute geek you are. Your new picture, not so much.

    MunchingZombie saidWe need to forget about the Czar and concentrate on containing the Ottoman Empire. We must not disrupt the trade from India. THE SPICE MUST FLOW!
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    Sep 18, 2009 12:19 AM GMT
    The Bush administration got so much wrong and so little right that it seems there is nothing to praise. The misle (intentional) shield seems like pretty good chess to me. We give up something that was unlikely to work in exchange for support where it is vitally necessary (Bishop exchange). In the process the Czech Republic and Poland get likely regime change (pawns but who sacrifices?). The neocons might not have found these moves palatable but the present administration likely does.

    Our friends in Tel Aviv may be happy while our enemies in Teheran probably are not. Not bad for a days work. Of course, none of that would have been possible had the crazy people not bluffed with the misle shield in the first place.

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    Sep 18, 2009 12:24 AM GMT
    UrsaMajor saidI love what an absolute geek you are. Your new picture, not so much.

    MunchingZombie saidWe need to forget about the Czar and concentrate on containing the Ottoman Empire. We must not disrupt the trade from India. THE SPICE MUST FLOW!


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    Sep 18, 2009 7:58 AM GMT
    It's aim is to encircle Russia, and provoke them, like Kosovo independence and the Georgian war of last August (200icon_cool.gif.

    they keep prodding the Bear, and the people of Poland and the Czech Republic are being used as unwilling pawns in a geopolitical game... they are by a vast majority against this.

    i'd keep my eye on this situation. i'd like to read the fine print.

    but it is definitely the right course of action to take... in scrapping it.
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    Sep 18, 2009 8:14 AM GMT
    hmmm... on second thought... i'm not so sure this is "change"
    http://www.today.az/news/politics/55736.html

    "The Obama administration plan distributes defenses in Europe under NATO and, step-by-step in phases, covers all of Europe"

    "the Bush plan was bilateral - US-Poland and US-Czech."

    "The Obama plan is under the full umbrella of NATO, although both Poland and the Czech Republic will still be involved under the wider, more distributed plan"

    "at first, the Obama plan will deploy missiles defenses in the south closest to the threat, perhaps in Turkey - if Turkey agrees to that"

    "Then missile defenses will be added farther north"


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    Sep 18, 2009 8:33 AM GMT
    I thought this system was meant to intercept the medium or short range missiles from Iran. I know Russia was pissed off about it, but honestly if they wanted to attack anyone I doubt this missile defense system is going to stop their ICBM's. Personally, I don't think we should be pissing off Russia or Iran, and I definitely don't think we should be spending more money on defense for Europeans or Israel. They are grownup countries, let them defend themselves for a while.
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    Sep 18, 2009 9:33 AM GMT
    You know I'd like say that I was happy he did this but considering he is saying "we have upgraded our intelligence" Ive heard this before and now we are in Iraq. I hope they got it right but I don't have much faith that it was the right decision. They should have just stuck with the star wars program if anything. Oh well. Only time will tell. I just don't what to see anything like 9-11 happen again. I don't wish that kind of pain on anyone or their family.
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    Sep 19, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
    The decision was fundamentally sound but the implementation was completely bungled and was quite amateurish. Heads should roll for this blunder.

    First off, the administration failed to hold any kind of consultations with the Poles or Czechs before the announcement was effectively made. If they had, they would have understood that announcing it on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland would not be the best timing. So in the end we rewarded a non-cooperative strategic rival for being non-cooperative, and insulted allies who have been cooperative. How does that make any logical sense?

    Second, they gave it away for nothing!??? There were no negotiations with the Russians over it. What did the Russians give up? Nothing. And as soon as it was announced Puitin went on the air and demand even more concessions from the US. This was the #1 sticking point between the US and Russia for the past 6 years or so. We could have demanded more Russian cooperation on Iran, or less aggressiveness over Georgia, or less meddling in the Baltic states and other former Soviet republics.
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    Sep 19, 2009 7:11 PM GMT
    I sincerely doubt Obama gave it away for nothing no matter what Putin says. Obama played Chicago politics well....where you never ever give anything away for free.

    Whatever he got the Russians obviously can't admit to. I'm guessing it's Russia's help in dealing with Tehran in the upcoming talks and not selling the Iranians top of the line air defense systems (leaving the door cracked open for the Israelis).
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    Sep 19, 2009 7:22 PM GMT
    bsubioguy saidI thought this system was meant to intercept the medium or short range missiles from Iran. I know Russia was pissed off about it, but honestly if they wanted to attack anyone I doubt this missile defense system is going to stop their ICBM's. Personally, I don't think we should be pissing off Russia or Iran, and I definitely don't think we should be spending more money on defense for Europeans or Israel. They are grownup countries, let them defend themselves for a while.


    The deal covered two components.

    1) The ABM (Ground Based Mid-course Defense) system like what we field in Alaska and and California.

    2) PAC 3 Patriot batteries to defend from short/medium range missiles and aircraft.

    After the Russian Air Forces' terrible showing against Georgia in the South Ossetia War having the PAC 3s fielded in countries that they enjoy leaning on was a major wet blanket to their enforcer like foreign policy.