Financial Troubles

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    Sep 22, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    I had resign from my old job back in May 2009. I had to resign because it conflicted with my school schedule at the time. I want to support the household more financially as myself, especially since my mom started a new job. She doesn't mind giving me additional monies if she can, but I don't want to impose on her either.

    I was glad to leave that place because the pay wasn't enough, I didn't get my pay increase as per the company's contract, and I wasn't under as much stress. However, the work wasn't difficult, I got a check every week, and now I heard they're reopening their Brooklyn call center so the commute won't be such a hassle. I'm waiting to hear back from other places I've applied to, especially since I haven't worked at my other job in many months. Can anyone offer some advice?


    Have any of you guys had to return to a job you didn't like just to make extra money? How did you feel doing that?
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    Sep 22, 2009 3:29 AM GMT
    thanksfully ive always had the financial backing of my parents (: however, I doooo know there are things like loans! take em out!
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    Sep 22, 2009 3:36 AM GMT


    It's ugly out there. Just do what ever you have to do. That's what separates the men from the boys.

    It will all be ok in the end
    If it isn't ok
    then it's not the end
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    Sep 22, 2009 3:44 AM GMT
    theantijock saidI learned early in life that if you do first what you have to do, then later you have a better chance of doing what you want to do.

    If I took out the garbage, walked the dog and did my homework, the rest of the night was pretty much all mine. It never mattered if I didn't like to take out the garbage. What mattered was that once I did it, not only did I earn my allowance for the week--well, that and clean the pool and wash the cars and swab the decks--it got my parents off my back which got me my free time as well as my allowance.

    Guess what? It's the same thing in real life too. So if you do now all the things you have to do, you give yourself a better chance of later not just having a nice allowance, but also time to enjoy it.
    thanks for the words antijock
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    Sep 22, 2009 3:45 AM GMT
    jrunner25 saidthanksfully ive always had the financial backing of my parents (: however, I doooo know there are things like loans! take em out!
    I don't need anymore loans irunner. I still have financial support, but I just wasn't to clear on whether I should go back to that job or just wait it out until something better comes along.
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    Sep 22, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    GFORCE said

    It's ugly out there. Just do what ever you have to do. That's what separates the men from the boys.

    It will all be ok in the end
    If it isn't ok
    then it's not the end
    Thanks for the kind words GFORCE. I just have to take things one day at a time...I know it'll be ok
  • Sparkycat

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    Sep 22, 2009 3:54 AM GMT
    Welcome to reality. Stop whining, put the self-pity on hold, and take whatever job you can get. It's for now, not for the rest of your life And you're too old to be relying on Mama for financial support.
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    Sep 22, 2009 4:13 AM GMT
    Sparkycat saidWelcome to reality. Stop whining, put the self-pity on hold, and take whatever job you can get. It's for now, not for the rest of your life And you're too old to be relying on Mama for financial support.
    I have my own finances Sparkycat. I don't rely on my mother for everything I need financially and at times I refuse her offer until I can handle the situation myself which I inevitably do .

    The main questions behind this thread was "Have any of you guys had to RETURN to a job you didn't like just to make extra money? How did you feel doing that?"
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    Sep 22, 2009 4:43 AM GMT
    . . . yes, I have . . . and it was rather humiliating . . .

    . . . but there were upsides to it: (1) it was manual labor so I was magnificently lean and buff, and (2) it was a great motivator to look for and obtain a better job . . .

    . . . got to try to accentuate the positive . . .
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    Sep 22, 2009 8:03 AM GMT
    Yeah I've been there before. While I studied at University I was working at the local grocery store supervising staff on the checkouts. Man what a drag. It always felt like I had to impress, that I had to get somewhere with the job even though I was learning Software Engineering at university.

    Once I graduated I finally got a proper job and was totally glad to leave the grocery store. 2 years later, the Dot com crash happened and I was out of work. Not a single I.T job anywhere. I had to go back to working the floor of the store I just left and it was weird.

    I had a very different perspective to the job. It was after all just to fill in the time and financial needs until I got my next job. But I felt like the job was a simple one. Nothing special and it was the easiest thing in the world to complete. Even the store manager seemed small to me.

    Thankfully I'm no longer in a position to even fathom the possibility of going back and doing something like that, but I do know I've got a working maturity that will enable me not to go backwards!

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    Sep 22, 2009 1:01 PM GMT
    theantijock
    Is there some reason that makes you hesitate? Are you embarrassed? Of what? Do you feel like this is a step backwards? Had you burned bridges? What is it that you are looking for to make you feel better about doing something you'd rather not but maybe have to do?
    I guess its a little all those things. I'm guess I'm looking for something to fit my schedule and that pays more money, but I'm afraid I may face the same problem. Another reason for me to resigned was because I didn't make enough completed surveys and I couldn't redeem myself at the time they wanted me too on account of school. But, I thought it would be a good opportunity to start over as I worked the final months in the Manhattan branch and I would reapply to work at their Brooklyn branch, were I originally started.
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    Sep 22, 2009 1:02 PM GMT
    noren said . . . yes, I have . . . and it was rather humiliating . . .

    . . . but there were upsides to it: (1) it was manual labor so I was magnificently lean and buff, and (2) it was a great motivator to look for and obtain a better job . . .

    . . . got to try to accentuate the positive . . .
    as small as the money is...I would be getting a check every week which is a positive in itself
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    Sep 22, 2009 1:40 PM GMT


    Oh no....I'm about to say something I always hated hearing!icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    "When I was your age.." *smacks toothless gums together and pokes with cane*

    When I was 19 I started working at the bank. Oh, I didn't like it, but it got me my own apartment. I hated it and quit after a year or so...then started work at a credit union. Hated that too, but did 5 years of it. Then I found a job that I liked better and that paid better - my track record made good on the resume.


    Hang in! (and take the job if it's 'OK' even though not great - you're building a work history.)

    -Doug
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:14 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    Oh no....I'm about to say something I always hated hearing!icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    "When I was your age.." *smacks toothless gums together and pokes with cane*

    When I was 19 I started working at the bank. Oh, I didn't like it, but it got me my own apartment. I hated it and quit after a year or so...then started work at a credit union. Hated that too, but did 5 years of it. Then I found a job that I liked better and that paid better - my track record made good on the resume.


    Hang in! (and take the job if it's 'OK' even though not great - you're building a work history.)

    -Doug
    Thanks Doug I'll hang in there as I best I can. And I better not here you say "when I was your age" again lol
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
    lol, not a chance, tryingtolive, I think I emotionally scarred myself.icon_lol.gif


    Though Bill's been known to say to a few guys, "I've been having sex longer than you've been alive." Then he mimes taking out one of his eyeballs and polishing it before popping it back in.
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    I don't know the details of your financial situation, but you are in college. Try looking into an internship. When you graduate an internship will look much better on your resume than a call center.
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    My friend and I had lunch yesterday and we were both discussing how our companies have not promoted us despite taking on additional responsibilities, and how we really want to go somewhere else, but do not want to end up laid off at a new job after a month or two with no unemployment.

    That happened to some of the new guys we hired after our first round of layoffs back in January. Nothing is worse than leaving a stable job you currently have for one that considers you expendable.

    I think everyone should play it safe for the next six to eight months. Take whatever work you can get, and when the economy has really stabilized, then worry about doing something you love, advancing in your career, or finding a more fulfilling work environment.
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    Doesn't matter if you're 22 or 52, you just have to do what you have to do in order to pay the rent and put food on the table. It's humbling at times but that is what makes us stronger.
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:43 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidI don't know the details of your financial situation, but you are in college. Try looking into an internship. When you graduate an internship will look much better on your resume than a call center.
    Its funny you should mention that MunchingZombie, I actually started my internship last week. I should go and put that on my resume ASAP.
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:46 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidDoesn't matter if you're 22 or 52, you just have to do what you have to do in order to pay the rent and put food on the table. It's humbling at times but that is what makes us stronger.
    That's true CuriousJock...that which does not kill us makes us stronger. And considering that I'm not dead yet, I'm slowly getting stronger. Thanks for the insight icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:48 PM GMT
    styrgan saidI think everyone should play it safe for the next six to eight months. Take whatever work you can get, and when the economy has really stabilized, then worry about doing something you love, advancing in your career, or finding a more fulfilling work environment.
    I'll keep applying to different places as long as I can get something out of it and if it fits into my schedule. Thanks styrgan
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    Sep 22, 2009 2:55 PM GMT
    Take the job and be good at it. You never know what doors may open up.

    If they agree to have you back, then you must be doing something right!
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    Sep 22, 2009 7:34 PM GMT
    KissingPro saidTake the job and be good at it. You never know what doors may open up.

    If they agree to have you back, then you must be doing something right!
    I'll apply again soon ans see what happens. Thanks KissingPro
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    Sep 22, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    There is something liberating about this period in time: it's okay to admit that you're less than perfect (especially within the gay community where often times we are expected to have exceeded everyone else in terms of education, finances and status)...many guys who have accepting families are having to move back home again. People are learning how to adjust and to set up new arrangements for fair housing (if you live at home again, you do certain things especially if you have aging parents; often they love having you around because who else would cut the grass, paint, etc). I admit that I don't exactly love living at home, but I do feel lucky that I get to share these years as an adult getting to know my parents from a different perspective, and (if this makes sense) I see now what they probably saw when they were my age. It's interesting.

    The downside is that if you are gay and single, meeting other guys just became ten times more difficult. Because if you do meet someone nice on here (and yea, they always live a thousand miles away) we are faced with the reality of now - if he has a decent job and place where he currently lives, chances are he will not be giving that up anytime soon to meet and eventually move in with someone (and you don't have the money to get up and leave to go to a new place either). So we are now kind of stuck where we are, and while it's nice to talk online to guys around the country, we are no longer as mobile as we were a decade ago. If that slows us down a little to find out more about the other guy before making the jump, that's great. But it's definitely out there right now. Most people are not in a place where they can just walk away from their job and their life and go somewhere else and start over just for the hell of it.

    I see a lot of people returning to jobs they hate because they need the money. They can't afford to move to a new city that might have more jobs - even the jobs they are trained for. I know of some people who have their LPN or RN and are still working as a nurses assistant because they're just not hiring as many RN's right now. I know people with teaching degrees who are still working as teacher aides because again, the school district: we had 5 high schools along with 5 middle schools ten years ago. That will be aligned to 2 high/junior highs by next fall. So unless you have 15 years tenure, forget it. I just really feel for the kids starting universities right now, you really have to look into your major and understand exactly what you can do with it (and more importantly, what you can't do - graduate programs are becoming very picky about what undergrad degrees they will accept into their programs now)...and of course the student loan payback stuff but that's another topic!