Fashion Clue for the clueless ?

  • Puppy80

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    Sep 23, 2009 4:36 PM GMT
    OK, so it's time to celebrate for me. I got a new job that I'll be starting in a couple weeks. icon_biggrin.gif It's a full time job, in an office with a cubical all my own. It's a small office with about 15 people working there, but a good job. I'm very excited. There is just one small problem...

    Dress is business casual unless we know there is going to be a client or higher up coming in, then your expected to dress nice. I've worked in retail for the past 14 years. My one and only job since I turned 15. I was looking around today and realized I have no fashion sense at all. None, nill, zip, zilch! icon_redface.gif Unless it's a hanger outfit (pre-put together off the rack) I'm clueless.

    Anyone out there have some advice for this pup ?
  • Timbales

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    Sep 23, 2009 5:30 PM GMT
    The best way to play it safe is get neutral colored dress pants or khakis and pair that with a solid colored polo, a plain dress shirt or a patterned dress shirt. When shopping for shoes, find something simple and comfortable and get your belt to match. As far as socks, you can match them to your pants or your shoes. You'll be pretty much guaranteed to look put together all the time.
  • Puppy80

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    Sep 23, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    Thanks Tim. I have some khaki colored dress pants, and some nice doc martin shoes i got quite some time ago that are comfortable. I have a black and a red polo shirt. But I feel like I need a few more shirts and another pair of pants.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 23, 2009 6:43 PM GMT
    Every man should have some basic clothes in his closet
    and this would be the very minimum of what will be expected for you to wear
    on a day to day basis

    Slacks: Black
    Khaki
    Grey or neutral Brown

    Jacket: Black or Navy Blazer that can work with jeans or slacks

    At least One suit ..... Light weight Black or Light Pinstripe is the most versatile

    One good Pair of Jeans

    One Trenchcoat and a Pea coat

    Shirts at least one White button down you can supplement with a few others in light colors like blue pink and/ or yellow

    Some good white and black Tee shirts that can be used with jeans or with slacks and a jacket





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    Sep 23, 2009 6:53 PM GMT
    Nooo.. Ditch the Doc Martens please. You're not in high school anymore. icon_lol.gif

    I had a nice pair of DM Gibsons, greasy leather. But decided that it didn't quite look right with business/casual clothes. So I went out and bought a pair of black Rockports. Surprisingly, they're more comfortable than the DM's. And they looked more appropriate in an office environment.

    As for the rest.. Timberoo's suggestions are good. Stick with neutral colors. In addition to khaki, I think you should have pants in a variety of dark colors.. black, charcoal, olive green. Get them in different textures too.

    Shirts are easy. Button down long sleeve. No button down short sleeve. White is safe and will match to any color pants you wear. You can get plain white, or white with simple patterns like vertical stripes. Just make sure the patterns aren't too "loud" or in weird colors. Polo style shirts are good too. Stick with basic colors. Don't pop your collar. icon_wink.gif

    This might sound corny, but check out some of the men's magazines once in a while. It will give you a better idea of how to mix/match colors and styles.

    Congratulations on your new job. icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 23, 2009 7:10 PM GMT
    two words: banana republic.
    browse the sale rack and buy everything your size. the clothes are high quality and the styles are classic, not trendy. its definitely a cut about the typical business casual. look for dress shirts, dress pants and some kind of causal shirt/pant alternates (eg: polo/khaki.) oh and i agree about retiring the doc martins -- or at least save them for the weekend. if you need shoes try the aldo store and maybe kenneth cole.
    good luck!icon_biggrin.gif
  • Timbales

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    Sep 23, 2009 7:15 PM GMT
    Eddie Bauer is a good source for wrinkle free business casual button downs. The colors and patterns are usually classic and will work with most every neutral pants.
  • art_smass

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    Sep 23, 2009 7:33 PM GMT
    Two words: Gareth Pugh.

    http://men.style.com/fashion/collections/F2009MEN/review/GPMEN
  • Puppy80

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    Sep 23, 2009 7:38 PM GMT
    Before everyone bashes my shoes to much take a look

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  • JP85257

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    Sep 23, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
    To bad you dont live in Arizona. EVERYONE wears jeans and a polo to work.

    Except me. Im in shorts and a t-shirt.
  • Timbales

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    Sep 23, 2009 8:37 PM GMT
    Puppy80 saidBefore everyone bashes my shoes to much take a look

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    I'd say those are too casual for business casual.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 23, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
    They're WAY too casual for "business casual."
    For your entire outfit, emphasize the "business" not the "casual."
  • Puppy80

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    Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM GMT
    Ok, so ditch the shoes. I'm gonna have my first paycheck spent before I even make it! icon_redface.gif
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:38 AM GMT
    Go get some basic color slacks or dress chino's Blk Gray or brwn. Maybe mix it up w/ a pinstripe or two. A few button dwns and V-neck sweaters or half zip pull overs will wrk as well. Match your shoes and belt at all times. Blk shoes blk belt, brn shoes...etc. Congrats on the New gig and best of luck to you. This is prob your best time to shop as holiday sales are around the corner. keep your receipt in case you need to get a price adjustment! Banana Republic sales are the best and the store is pretty much business casual.
  • DJZ77

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    Sep 24, 2009 6:06 AM GMT
    Hey Pup...

    First off, congrats on the new job, but yeah.... please please please PUHLEEEEEEEASE do not wear those shoes to work. Not saying that you should get rid of them, just not really proper attire for your work environment. Check out some Bostonians, I find that they make pretty comfortable shoes. Go to a department store and try on a few pairs. Oh and please wear dress socks... THIS IS A MUST! Never ever wear regular white sock with dress shoes. Whenever I see this fashion faux pas happen I just cringe... Don't make me call the fashion police and have you locked up. (LOL kidding icon_twisted.gif ) As for the clothes, check out your co-workers and see how they dress, that should help you determine what you need to get.
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    Sep 24, 2009 6:06 AM GMT
    get clothes that fit you well, even if they aren't super flashy, well fitting clothes speak volumes more than color combinations or styles.

    if you're not sure get someone to help you recognize what fits best, it doesn't have to cost a bundle, shouldn't fit too big nor too small/tight.

    STICK WITH SOLID COLORS NO PRINTS/STRIPES
    2 pairs of tan, beige, brown or black slacks. Marshall's/Ross $40
    3-5 solid colored button up shirts $40-60 Marshall's/Ross

    Mixing different colored undershirts that peak out around your neck line adds variety to the outfits and mix up your look. Ross/Marshalls pack of 3 $20

    If you shoes have tennis shoe laces they shouldn't be your first choice.
    go to payless and get a pair of black slip ons and a pair of brown ones, get matching belts for each. you can probably do this for under $50.

    Be careful with your clothes, don't abuse them and you could feasibly get by with the above for 3-6 months without. People always notice the flashy clothed people and what the wear. Focus on the job you do for now and not what you wear. You will make a bigger impression with a job well done than having a stylin' wardrobe.

    As you get more money, then start looking at jackets and ties.
    Always, always... get clothes that fit well.

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    Sep 24, 2009 6:08 AM GMT
    oh yeah.. no white socks (this is low on the list of priorities for your first paycheck but it's an important one).

    ... congrats on your first job pup!
    work hard, focus and remember to let your work speak for itself be patient and try your best, you'll do great!
  • Puppy80

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    Sep 24, 2009 4:27 PM GMT
    Thanks for all the advice and congratulations guys. I just wish I had a fashion friend that could take me out shopping. I'm HORRIBLE about know what looks good on me. As you saw by my shoes. icon_redface.gif

    The good news is I have a pair of black semi-dress shoes. And yes, I do have black socks too, so no worries on that fashion mistake.

    Devil, you mentioned I should check out my co-workers, but the bad thing is the office is a small staff, and of that 90% are women. So I don't think that will help me out to much.

    Keep the advice coming! icon_lol.gif
  • EricLA

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    Sep 24, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    Re: pants, try to avoid pleated pants at all cost. Flat-front pants are for more fashionable and slimming.
  • Celticmusl

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    Sep 24, 2009 4:44 PM GMT
    Webster666 saidThey're WAY too casual for "business casual."
    For your entire outfit, emphasize the "business" not the "casual."



    I agree, I think the shoes should be more about "business". Find a nice pair like Clarks, Doc Martins, or Bjorn. If you can afford it Prada. Usually my shoes will cost more than the whole clothes ensemble I'm wearing. Unfortunately I know a lot of people that judge a person by his/her shoes. I know one guy that will not date someone that wears white tennis shoes to the bar. Other than sandals I haven't spent less than a hundred bucks on a pair of shoes in ten+ years and I haven't been disappointed with the style, comfort, and resilience of a pair of shoes that cost a little more.
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:52 PM GMT
    Also, every office has its own dynamic and its own accepted norm of what is 'business casual.' Before you blow the budget on an entire wardrobe, take a look at what everybody else in the office is wearing. And though business casual is nice, it never hurts to look a little sharper than the schmuck in the next cube.
  • fitnfunmich

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    Sep 24, 2009 4:54 PM GMT
    Puppy you live outside Chicago so this should be easy for you--plus you worked retail! The easiest solution to your problem is to pick a store that you can afford (like Banana Republic as someone mentioned earlier in the thread), and go. Then find a fellow homo who works there (most of the guys who work there ARE homos so that won't be a problem), and explain your situation. Have them pick out everything. They will be MORE than happy to dress you appropriately--I promise.

    So have fun with it, and good luck with your new job!
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:56 PM GMT
    Fashion is copying what other are wearing. Its that simply.
  • DJZ77

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    Sep 25, 2009 12:17 AM GMT
    Puppy80 saidThanks for all the advice and congratulations guys. I just wish I had a fashion friend that could take me out shopping. I'm HORRIBLE about know what looks good on me. As you saw by my shoes. icon_redface.gif

    The good news is I have a pair of black semi-dress shoes. And yes, I do have black socks too, so no worries on that fashion mistake.

    Devil, you mentioned I should check out my co-workers, but the bad thing is the office is a small staff, and of that 90% are women. So I don't think that will help me out to much.

    Keep the advice coming! icon_lol.gif


    OMG...NO, no it won't. Unless you're Dustin Hoffman in Tootsie, then you're golden!! Wait, no hot guys to stare at?!? icon_eek.gif Please tell me there is at least one.
  • dreamer121

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    Sep 25, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    I completely agree with GQ Jock. Thats a good list: Another good one online is found here:
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    http://mens-fashion.lovetoknow.com/Essential_Mans_Wardrobe[/img]

    Some looks i love from various retailers:

    www.BananaRepublic.com:
    br619681-00p01v01.jpg Just surf and be inspired.

    Go here @ JCrew's website and see how clothes can move from one to another. Explore. Have fun with it. See what you like and how looks can change with a simple jacket or change of pants.

    http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/MensBrowse/Men_Feature_Assortment/jackknowsbest.jsp

    Express Is trendy, but you can find some looks there too.

    http://www.express.com/catalog/thumbnail.jsp?parentCategoryId=1&categoryId=450&subCategoryId=520

    Right now they also show how to play with the idea of a Blazer on their "for him" homepage: http://www.express.com/catalog/section.jsp?categoryId=1


    Pick up magazines. have fun... talk to sales associates, and if you don't trust 'em... fly down to St Louis, and We'll go shopping.