AIDS vaccine provides some protection, lowers risk of infection by 31%

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    Sep 24, 2009 7:02 AM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_he_me/med_aids_vaccine
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    Sep 24, 2009 8:55 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_he_me/med_aids_vaccine


    While a long ways away from a cure, this is HUGE. Definitely a glimmer of hope. This is great news. Thank you for sharing! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 24, 2009 9:34 AM GMT
    OR, it could be that the vaccinated set just happened to be sexually less promicious?
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    Sep 24, 2009 11:17 AM GMT
    yeah i just saw this on CNN... well have to see what happens lol. i think i would be better served getting Gardisil and using a condom. Ill save the bearbacking for a committed long-term relationship where i trust my partnert wont go out and fuck around behind my back... as you can imagine this kind of behavior isnt happening for VERY long time.
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    Sep 24, 2009 3:34 PM GMT
    it's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says...
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    Sep 24, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
    Well it's the first time there has been a statistically significant effect in a human trial, but the effect wasn't really very large.
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    Sep 24, 2009 3:46 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidit's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says...

    Perhaps the silence says that 31% isn't very much, and might even lead to a false sense of security. We don't know yet if this is the beginning of a breakthrough, that will result in a fully effective vaccine, or another dead end, which we've seen many times before. I wouldn't plan the ticker-tape parade just yet.
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    Sep 24, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
    i'm very pleased to hear this! i think a lot of people are guarded regarding this stuff, but i am super excited because it's a giant step forward!! this is something near and dear to me because I want to specialize in HIV/AIDS as a nurse practitioner. maybe it'll be part of the treatment plan by the time i actually start my masters icon_biggrin.gif

    thanks for posting this! i was just about to post it, lol
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:03 PM GMT
    NJDewd saidOR, it could be that the vaccinated set just happened to be sexually less promicious?


    it was a very large study
    the control group got a placebo

    lern to statistically significant
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidit's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says...


    There is another thread running on this topic, so perhaps that's why.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/665055/
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    It does sound very encouraging... I hope it will be a stair step in the process.
    I'm sure they will have more information soon.
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    Sep 24, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    This is awesome news! I hope and pray that those that have or will receive the vaccine will not engage in promiscuity because the risk is lower.
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:11 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_he_me/med_aids_vaccine


    That's great! Here's another article on the same study from the BBC:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8272113.stm

  • Sep 24, 2009 5:44 PM GMT
    Does anyone know the link to the study itself and not the news link? Also looking to see if they have any publications for this study. I'm looking into going to Grad school in gene therapy and HIV will be one of my main focuses.
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:48 PM GMT
    Stop interfering with god's plan to punish people for sinning, damnit!
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:49 PM GMT
    TheGuyNextDoor saidBTW- A very close friend of mine has been POZ for years. He gets drug assistance on co-pays from the local resource center.
    I have watched his health go from so-so to not so good, to finally great! Undetectable and high T-cells. This is a long term patient.

    He called frantic yesterday saying that much of the funding has been haulted due to the economy and lack of grants. I spent a few hours on the phone this morning (my vacation at home) helping him get highly reduced co-pays on the 5 drugs that have brought his health up this high. He has good Ins. but the co-pays are a bitch on most of these.. all close to $100. or more per drug. I was able to get 3 covered and 2 down to 20ish each. $40 vs. $500 is a big difference. Before, it was 0 with the Resource Center grants. The direction of the economy is the best example why I feel this finding very encouraging. For me and my POZ friends it's called HOPE.
    Not blind hope... just HOPE.
    Thanks again Jack. Made those phone calls earlier today feel a bit more encouraging!,,icon_biggrin.gif


    You helping out your friend, just put you your face by the definition of what a true friend is....and thanks to Jack for the post (another example of a true friend). This is very encouraging for everyone.
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidit's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says...


    While I find it interesting and even encouraging, I'm still not going to hold my breath. It's a step in the right direction and brings a little hope for the future, but it doesn't change anything for any of us living with it today. Over the last 10.5 years, I have learned time and time again that becoming emotionally and intellectually invested in such "breakthroughs" becomes rather exhausting and a recipe for disappointment.
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    Sep 24, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
    What I'd like to know is what are the distinguishing characteristics of the 31%. Is it genetic or epigenetic, environmental, diet, health, exposure (type, time and quantity), etc.

    For example, supposed someone was already exposed but didn't register yet as being HIV+, could the vaccine have pushed it over the edge to HIV+ or possibly back where they 'became' HIV-.

    With a number as high as 31%, I think this shows far more promise if the research continues thoroughly enough.

    It seems more than just a statistically significant number.
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    Sep 24, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
    "it's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says..."
    "There is another thread running on this topic, so perhaps that's why".

    The other thread also has not generated much dialogue or comments. I thing that in general this site is geared towards those who are largely more interested in ............................let's just say, other things like .....boxers or briefs, to tan or not, who's the hottest looking, pros and cons of being a bottom versus top, etc.
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    Sep 24, 2009 6:50 PM GMT
    Forgot to mention...This is great news and way too long overdue. In the back of my mind, i can't help but think that some 18 y/o kid is going to use this bit of information to further justify the fact that "HIV won't kill me so what the hell".
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    Sep 24, 2009 7:58 PM GMT
    dancerjack saidit's strange that this thread hasn't generate more interest... i wonder what the silence says...


    We know this is huge, but we also know so little about it. And it is not a cure either.
    It would be really significant if the discovery of this vaccine would help open the door for 100% immunity. It is not always like that.
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    Sep 24, 2009 8:29 PM GMT
    Epiphany1882 said
    dancerjack saidhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090924/ap_on_he_me/med_aids_vaccine


    While a long ways away from a cure, this is HUGE. Definitely a glimmer of hope. This is great news. Thank you for sharing! icon_biggrin.gif
    yes very good news.
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    Sep 25, 2009 12:16 AM GMT
    Great news, and more on the way, I'm sure!