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    Sep 24, 2009 4:55 PM GMT
    This lawsuit is absolutely ridiculous. Imagine if a person applied to be a porn model, but said my reliigion doesn't permit me to pose nude, so he wants the porn company to accomodate his religious beliefs by permitting him to wear clothes. LOL This sounds stupid, but no more stupid than this woman who was denied employment because she wants to wear a scarf. She should not apply at a store like this if she is not willing to follow their dress code, just like a person should not be a porn model, if they aren;t willing to follow their no clothes policy., lol

    I'm sorry, but nio company should be expected to hire anyone, if they are not willing to follow their companies dress code. Abercrombie's dress code does effect their marketing stragedy and employees shouold be expected to follow it and if you are not able to due to your religion or other reasons, than DON"T APPLY at a place where you are not willing to dress properly for the job or in the case of a porn model to be undressed. lol

    All I can say is if a judge rules in her favor, our legal court system is really screwed up i n this country and they are contributing to our economic downturn with shit like this. We don't need another company to file banckrupcy over this kind of crap because stuff like this trickles down and affects all of us. If a big company like Abercrombie has to close its stores because of a ridiculous lawsuit like this, that affects all of us with higher prices or worse yet loss of jobs. It will even affect us at UPS because we do a lot of shipping for Abercrombie and we can not afford to have companies
    like this go bankrupt over stupid lawsuits like this.

    It even says in this article that they were sued because the employee wanted to dress more modestly. Well, I'm sorry. If you think its immordest to dress like they do at Abercrombie, then DON'T APPLY & WORK THERE.
    That is part of the qaulifications of the job. And don't apply to be a porn model, if you don;t want to shoot nude. lol

    Abercrombie & Fitch Faces Lawsuit Over Muslim Headscarf
    By SEAN GREGORY Sean Gregory
    42 mins ago

    Given the hyper-sexualized advertising that Abercrombie & Fitch has long embraced, it is no surprise that the company encourages its employees to let their hair down. But is the company practicing discrimination if it won't hire a young woman who covers her head for religious reasons? Yes, according to the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Last week the EEOC filed suit against Abercrombie on behalf of Samantha Elauf, a 19-year-old community college student from Tulsa, Okla., who is Muslim. The suit alleges that Abercrombie "refused to hire Ms. Elauf because she wears a hijab, claiming that the wearing of the headgear was prohibited by its Look Policy," or employee dress code. The suit says that Abercrombie "failed to accommodate her religious beliefs by making an exception to the Look Policy. These actions constitute discrimination against Ms. Elauf on the basis of religion."


    Elauf, who had experience working in retail, interviewed for a position at a Tulsa Abercrombie Kids store in June 2008. During the interview, she wore a black hijab, or headscarf, in line with Muslim religious tradition. According to the EEOC, Elauf got word through a friend, who worked in the store, that the headscarf cost her the job. The EEOC alleges that during its investigation, Abercrombie & Fitch flatly told the agency, in a position statement, that "under the Look Policy, associates must wear clothing that is consistent with the Abercrombie brand, cannot wear hats or other coverings, and cannot wear clothes that are the color black." Elauf is suing for back pay and compensation related to emotional pain and anxiety. "If these allegations are true," says Chuck Thornton, deputy director of the ACLU of Oklahoma, "they are serious. In this day and age, it's not acceptable. Certainly, a headscarf is part and parcel of the Islamic experience." (Read "How to Reach Teens in a Recession? Ask A[a {e}]ropostale.")


    When contacted for a response, Abercrombie & Fitch issued the following statement: "We cannot comment on pending litigation. We have a strong equal-opportunity policy, and we accommodate religious beliefs and practices when possible. We are confident that the litigation of this matter will demonstrate that we have followed the law in every respect."


    Was Abercrombie & Fitch within its rights to enforce its dress code? Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits religious discrimination. "It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to fail or refuse to hire .... any individual ... because of such individual's race, color, religion, sex or national origin," the law states. The key language, says Stewart Schwab, an employment lawyer and dean of Cornell Law School, is found in a 1972 amendment to Title VII. This amendment defined "religion." It reads, "The term 'religion' includes all aspects of reli
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
    Abercrombie IS NOT discriminating against any religion because their dress code is enforced on ALL EMPLOYEES and this dress code is vital to the image and success of their company. The success of Abercrombie like a porn company depends on the sexual image they present. Can you imagine anyone suing a porn company because they were denied employment because their dick wasn't big enough or they weren't attractive enough? This lawsuit against Abercrombie is so ridculous. Abercrombie presents a sexual image and this is at the heart of thei company and success. Without that sexual image, the company will not survive.
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    Sep 24, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
    Reallly I got to have it!
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    Sep 25, 2009 1:18 AM GMT


    Frankly, who gives a shit about the survival of Abercrombie & Fitch?!?

    Is your world no larger than the size of your local mall??? Prioritize your life, man!
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    Sep 25, 2009 1:32 AM GMT
    GFORCE said

    Frankly, who gives a shit about the survival of Abercrombie & Fitch?!?

    Is your world no larger than the size of your local mall??? Prioritize your life, man!


    THANK YOU
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:30 AM GMT
    If you are gonna grandstand before reposting an article, at least learn to spell and use some half-decent language skills. Otherwise we'll think you're just another dick-swinging adolescent who creates topics just to be validated.

    I say let her wear the headscarf. It's part of her deeply held belief system. But she had better show her tits. It's part of the Abercrombie brand.

    But if she has to take it off (appeals court, anyone?), she should just quit...and on her way out rip the cross from around the neck of the shaven twink working the door.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    GFORCE said

    Frankly, who gives a shit about the survival of Abercrombie & Fitch?!?

    Is your world no larger than the size of your local mall??? Prioritize your life, man!


    Abercrombie is more than just a local mall. They are nationwide and small companies like Abercrombie are the heatbeat of America. 75% of America's workers are employed by small companies. When they fail, it trickes down and we all fail.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    G_Force said
    GFORCE said

    Frankly, who gives a shit about the survival of Abercrombie & Fitch?!?

    Is your world no larger than the size of your local mall??? Prioritize your life, man!


    Abercrombie is more than just a local mall. They are nationwide and small companies like Abercrombie are the heatbeat of America. 75% of America's workers are employed by small companies. When they fail, it trickes down and we all fail.


    THE HEARTBEAT OF AMERICA???

    Bwahahahahaha!!! Get a grip buddy. It's a fucking clothing store for the spawn of the gated community set.

    Not. That. Important.

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    Sep 25, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
    Why do you think so many people are losing their jobs? because of shit like this.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    G_Force saidWhy do you think so many people are losing their jobs? because of shit like this.


    Oh keep going. This is priceless.

    Where's that popcorn icon?
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:39 AM GMT
    After America has closed the last business, they will wonder what happened to all our jobs. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:41 AM GMT
    G_Force saidAfter America has closed the last business, they will wonder what happened to all our jobs. icon_sad.gif


    As long as we're talking crazy talk, a more likely scenario is that America will have one single business.

    Wal-Mart
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    If we want to grow the economy, we need to help small businesses, because let's face it, the majority of America is employed by small business. Current growth in the economy is coming from small business right now.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    Who cares? This isn't news, this is your own personal commentary.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    G_Force saidWhy do you think so many people are losing their jobs? because of shit like this.

    Sorry. that's not only wrong, it's nuts.
    There isn't a lawsuit filed in history that's brought down a company. Even the Big Tobacco lawsuits were a flea bite.

    There are lots of reasons why Abercrombie and the like are in trouble, in fact far too many to list. But here are a few:

    ---Their stores are all in malls, and they have huge amounts tied up in leases which don't protect their losses but impose rent surcharges on high grosses.

    ---They sell exactly the kind of clothes that are the first to be cut from anyone's budget in a bad economy. Those $40 t-shirts are $15 elsewhere. This may not matter when times are flush. It matters hugely when they're not.

    ---They expanded too fast in the past decade, and have huge amounts of debt. Additionally, they added THREE other brand store chains (Abercrombie for kids, Hollister, Ruehl) and despite their claims, there is enough overlap that in some respects they are competing with each other for the same dollars.

    ---They are a fad. They aimed themselves at a market which is by its very nature fickle (teenagers and young adults) and it was inevitable that one day something that is kewl will be tomorrow's tragically un-hip.

    Frankly, who gives a shit if they die.


    Every America worker gives a shit because we are all affected by it and when another small business fails, we all fail.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:52 AM GMT
    Runninchlt saidWho cares? This isn't news, this is your own personal commentary.


    You care. It's your job that next's on the axe. It's this kind of "who cares attitude that is destroying America.
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:53 AM GMT
    A&F is really one of the most mismanaged half-assed companies there are
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    Sep 25, 2009 2:57 AM GMT
    maxxtowt saidA&F is really one of the most mismanaged half-assed companies there are


    It doesn't matter how mismanaged corporate America is. Wishing their death seals the coffin on you.
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    Welcome to; "it must be about me" America. Why would she want to work there with her religious beliefs? Is she showing cleavage with her scarf on? Come on, I really don't give a crap about A&F, but I do have a problem with people going sue happy over crap like this.

    And WalMart, that's a whole other party!
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:01 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    G_Force said Every America worker gives a shit because we are all affected by it and when another small business fails, we all fail.

    Businesses that make stupid mistakes go under all the time. It's capitalism at work.

    And I don't know why you keep referring to Abercrombie as a "small" business. It's a huge national company. The small business that reportedly employ 50% of the workforce are under 75 employees.

    This constant railing about lawsuits is just more Republican hogwash. They'd love to "tort reform" everyone completely out of their right to sue. Don't be misled: this isn't about any company's survival. It's about enriching their business pals. No company of any size has yet gone bankrupt because of an EEOC lawsuit.


    In corporate America, they are classified as a small corporation and its small corporations right now where the growth for our economy is coming from.
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
    G_Force said
    maxxtowt saidA&F is really one of the most mismanaged half-assed companies there are


    It doesn't matter how mismanaged corporate America is. Wishing their death seals the coffin on you.


    Well my coffin has already been sealed...

    I've been an A&F employee for several years I was transferred to their new store Ruehl about 10 months ago...after about a year of overpriced clothes and overspending on "atmosphere," they've decided to shut all of the RUEHL stores down on the entire EAST COAST...meaning that come Jan 2010 I'll have to either try to get another transfer approved or just leave the company altogether

    Paraphrased employee memo that we got:

    We appreciate all of your hard work but come Jan, you won't have a job
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    Sounds like they're eating their gruel.

    G_Force, do you own a bunch of A&F stock?
    Have you purchased anything there this week to help save the company?

    See also:
    Equal Employment Opportunity Commission files against - Abercrombie & Fitch
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/659214
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    prancer saidWelcome to; "it must be about me" America. Why would she want to work there with her religious beliefs? Is she showing cleavage with her scarf on? Come on, I really don't give a crap about A&F, but I do have a problem with people going sue happy over crap like this.

    And WalMart, that's a whole other party!


    Well the whole suit is stupid. I'd like to see a porn model sue. lol Not all her faculties are working right. She needs a brain more than a job. I just can't believe it. I know some really stupid people but she really makes the top. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
    All due respect, there are tons of frivolous lawsuits tying up our courts. Can she win? Certainly. EEOC can recommend charges and that will be the start. And most definitely will not argue our freedoms, but here is some challenging the freedom of this company to make their own decisions. And again, I go back to, why would she want to work there? Their "brand" is far from what her religion even allows.
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    Sep 25, 2009 3:10 AM GMT
    The rest of the party is doing good! The real Prancer is the dog in the picture with me!