Using athletic tape to.....

  • trl_

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    Sep 25, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
    When I lift, I feel like I'm limiting myself because I have weak wrists (not limp, just weak lol). I want to use athletic tape to brace them, but I'm concerned about two things:

    1) Will that just make my wrists weaker?

    2)How do I brace my wrists with athletic tape? lol Just go around and around in a circle?

    I took a training class in high school, but we just taped feet, so I don't know how to go about hand taping icon_smile.gif
  • Timbales

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    Sep 25, 2009 7:43 PM GMT
    I've got to ask the obvious - are you doing anything to try and make your wrists stronger?
  • trl_

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    Sep 25, 2009 7:49 PM GMT
    I was doing a forearm exercise with the hand weight where you lift it from having your hand all the way down (like a gay man lol) to completely flexed, and it was so hard. Not because it was heavy, but just because my wrists kept popping out of place and popping back in. I couldn't even lift the way properly really. It got me thinking I should tape my wrists.

    My shoulders are also bad.
  • Timbales

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    Sep 25, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    If you start taping and lifting, you could really do some damage to yourself. Are you insured? If so, I'd recommend seeing a doctor and going to physical therapy. There are numerous exercises they can give you to strengthen your joints so you can life safely. It may not seem like a big deal at your age, but you could quickly develop tendinitis.
  • trl_

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    Sep 25, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    I don't think I'm injured....I just have weird joints!
    They're just really weak and pop out of place all the time.


    I just reread this and saw you put "insured" not "injured" icon_wink.gif
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    Sep 25, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    IMHO, tape and straps should only be used in two cases:

    1) You're a manufactured giant, using gallons of steroids, lifting weights that human joints weren't designed to withstand.

    2) You're recovering from an injury and you're using them temporarily, like a crutch.

    Timbertoons is right: If your joints are weak, you need to address that. Same thing if your core is weak: you should work on strengthening it, rather than wear a belt (which is just a macho girdle), like those guys with jelly for a midsection that want to be manly men, cause manly men obviously lift heavy weights. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Your joints aren't "weird." They are weak. You need to respect them and work with light weights your joints can handle, and tailor your exercises to help strengthen them so you can eventually move up in weight without crutches.

    All your answers will be online for the exercises you need. It will only cost you an hour or so with Google and the RJ catalog of exercises and articles at your side.
  • youngdoc

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    Sep 25, 2009 10:18 PM GMT
    Just a thought... Some joints are overly flexible due to there being a slight lack of muscular development in that specific area. For example, a gymnast (being highly flexible) may be overly flexible at some joints, such as the shoulder, and have the ability to pop it in and out of place.

    I would recommend doing some strengthening exercises with low weight and high repetitions. Gradually increase until you are comfortable. Suggestions for wrist exercises (choose one for flexion, one for extension):

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/WristFlexors/CBWristCurl.html
    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/WristFlexors/DBWristCurl.html

    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/WristExtensors/CBReverseWristCurl.html
    http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/WristExtensors/DBReverseWristCurl.html

    Taping your wrists will not fix the problem, even if done by an athletic trainer. Also, do not hesitate to ask a personal trainer at your gym for advice, they will be able to help you a lot. If you continue to have abnormal pain or weakness you should think long and hard about your problem, but it just seems to me that you are overly flexible. Make sure that you build a solid foundation of strength (low weight, high reps) before advancing to heavy weights.
  • jrs1

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    Sep 25, 2009 10:45 PM GMT

    in short: when lifting, be considerate of your body else you are just fostering

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    Sep 25, 2009 11:27 PM GMT
    Eat more, that'll fix most of your problems.
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    Sep 25, 2009 11:29 PM GMT
    Here's a rule you can apply pretty much throughout everything: If you coddle something, it only grows weaker. If you put it against the challenge, it becomes stronger.

    In most instances, you aren't going to want to wrap your knees, wrist, or wear a belt. It counter-productive. Only if you're lifting very heavy weight (below 4RM) will you need supports (as in a bench meet, power meet, etc.).

    At 5'10", and 145#, you can't really expect to make gains without eating. EAT.
  • trl_

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    Sep 25, 2009 11:32 PM GMT
    Im thinking it might be the underdeveloped muscles in the area of the joint thing, or my case really is unique.

    I can grab my hands together in front of me near my crotch and, without letting go, bring them all the way over my head until they're touching my butt. lol

    I can basically jump rope with my own arms.

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    Sep 25, 2009 11:43 PM GMT
    You sound like you're double-jointed.
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    Sep 26, 2009 12:39 AM GMT
    trliber saidIm thinking it might be the underdeveloped muscles in the area of the joint thing, or my case really is unique.

    I can grab my hands together in front of me near my crotch and, without letting go, bring them all the way over my head until they're touching my butt. lol

    I can basically jump rope with my own arms.


    Too much information. icon_lol.gif

    Don't use tape. Don't use a lifting belt. Don't use straps.

    Implement forearm and grip training in your workout routine. Your wrists will get stronger over time.

    Actually, go see a doctor first. The whole popping out of place thing seems kinda weird. If your doc gives you the green light to continue lifting, then go ahead and try some forearm/grip exercises.
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    Sep 26, 2009 12:43 AM GMT
    There was a recent discussion on working out while double jointed.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/663377/

    From your description it sounds like you may have hypermobile joints (double jointed).

    Here is part of the post I made on that forum


    If many of your joints are lax, you should be evaluated by a physician to rule out a genetic disorder.
    The most common problem is benign joint hypermobility syndrome. This tends to run in families. If someone has very lax joints he can be predisposed to subluxations and dislocations. When he is older, the chronically weak joints will develop osteoarthritis.

    Althought rare, there are two genetic disorders that are not benign and cause lax joints.
    The more common is Marfan's syndrome which is associated with aortic aneurysm's. Michael Phelps has Marfan's and has annual echocardiograms to check for aneurysms. His last check up was good.
    The other problem is Ehlers Danlos syndrome. Guys with the very extreme form of this illness do videos on YouTube..not everyone with Ehlers Danlos is a rubber man

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunQu-bId1M&feature=PlayList&p=26EE0C4F9D67A579&index=11
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    Sep 26, 2009 12:46 AM GMT
    trliber saidIm thinking it might be the underdeveloped muscles in the area of the joint thing, or my case really is unique.

    I can grab my hands together in front of me near my crotch and, without letting go, bring them all the way over my head until they're touching my butt. lol

    I can basically jump rope with my own arms.



    OK, quit lifting weights and work on developing a contortionist's act. There's a place for you at Cirque du Soleil.

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