Dear Doctor... passages from the bible....

  • bmw0

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    Sep 27, 2009 1:56 AM GMT
    Dr. Laura Schlessinger is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. Recently, she said that, as an observant Orthodox Jew, homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22 and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following is an open letter to Dr. Laura penned by a east coast resident, which was posted on the Internet:

    Dear Dr. Laura:

    Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to follow them:

    When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

    I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

    I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15:19- 24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

    Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

    I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

    A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

    Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

    Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

    I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

    My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

    I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

    Your devoted fan,

    Jim
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    Sep 27, 2009 3:51 AM GMT
    The thread lost all validity as soon as Laura Schlessinger was mentioned.
  • mynyun

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    Sep 27, 2009 7:02 AM GMT

    Well I'm afraid I don't know who this Laura person is. I guess I should be grateful. However I wouldn't send this letter to only her I would send it to other strict religious heads and see what kind of various responses come of it.
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    Sep 27, 2009 1:06 PM GMT
    why anybody would listen to anything that dried-up cunt has to say is beyond me.
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    Sep 27, 2009 1:12 PM GMT
    Because a dried up cunt that speaks is nothing short of miraculous.
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    Sep 27, 2009 1:19 PM GMT
    Thanks bmwO for posting this letter. I don't think the main point is Dr. Laura, but rather all the people who refer to the bible for hating a group of people (gays) because the bible says so, it shows all the other items in the bible that very few people believe or follow anymore.

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    Sep 27, 2009 1:23 PM GMT
    Ciarsolo7 saidThe thread lost all validity as soon as Laura Schlessinger was mentioned.



    Amen!

    I remember that heifer from when I live in San Diego. That's my hometown but damn I can't deal with all the Republicans.
  • dantoujours

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    Sep 27, 2009 1:32 PM GMT
    Laura left Orthodox Judaism in 2002. The Levitical laws referenced in that letter are still observed by Orthodox Jews though the penalties are overridden by civil law, but the Old Testament makes it clear that non-Jews aren't supposed to follow Mosaic Law.

    According to Jewish tradition "righteous" Gentiles are supposed to follow the 7 Noahide Laws instead:

    1) No worship of false gods.
    2) Murder is not permitted.
    3) Stealing and Kidnapping is not permitted.
    4) Sexual immorality (adultery, incest) is forbidden.
    5) Do not blaspheme God.
    6) Do not consume any flesh torn from an animal that is still alive.
    7) Establish a system of laws, courts, and police that is honest and effective.

    http://www.jewfaq.org/gentiles.htm#Noah

    Depending on the interpretation, homosexual acts may violate #4, but then you could argue that Christians violate #1 because of our belief in the Trinity and Incarnation.

    Anyway, it was a good letter for its period of time because it addressed the overall hypocrisy involved.

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    Sep 27, 2009 1:45 PM GMT
    Jeez. The people they stick 'Dr.' to nowadays.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 27, 2009 2:17 PM GMT
    Washed up dried up old has been of a wanna be ....

    She's a Doctor alright ..... with a doctorate in literature I believe
    You should hear her name and run for the hills
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    Sep 27, 2009 2:22 PM GMT
    GQjock saidWashed up dried up old has been of a wanna be ....

    She's a Doctor alright ..... with a doctorate in literature I believe
    You should hear her name and run for the hills


    Nah, just have a fresh cream pie ready.
  • GQjock

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    Sep 27, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    I'd much rather prefer a nice petrified Pecan
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    Sep 27, 2009 2:24 PM GMT
    Then, a re-gifted fruitcake might be even better and would have the added benefit of poetic justice.
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    Sep 27, 2009 3:05 PM GMT

    Right on, BMW0 !

    Not that I make a habit of looking for situations where the subject comes up, but it took me longer than it should have to realize that confronting hateful religious wingnuts with bits of Leviticus (and Deuteronomy) that they routinely trample usually buys me silence. My earlier tactic of arguing that the Bible is needs to read with a view to historic context almost never works.

    But the realization that stunned me a couple of years ago in the midst of a conversation while fishing with a hardcore fundamentalist friend of mine was that he (and many, many others) believe that God is not only an active agent in day to day events on Earth, but that God is still in the game of picking favorite nations. So, in the eyes of these people, offending their reading of scripture is akin to treason.

    Until very recently I just kind of shook my head at that notion. But lately I have had a growing sense of dread that it may not be too much longer before some of these guys start killing "infidels" in the name of God and national security. I fear that our very own version of the Taliban is being energized by a perfect storm of economic insecurity, racism, and the growing boldness of social liberals. I truly hope I'm wrong. And yet I can't help but wonder whether the murder and mutilation of the census worker this week in Kentucky wasn't motivated by something along the lines of what I fear.
  • bmw0

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    Sep 27, 2009 9:07 PM GMT
    Boy, i'm glad that some people got it. The letter is poking fun at her. Its been in circulation for a good while, but it still gives some compelling arguements/ways to diffuse ignorant conservative rhedoric.
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    Sep 27, 2009 9:19 PM GMT
    How recent was this statement? She's shown signs of drastically mellowing on her stance towards gay relationships this year. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/10/dr-laura-gay-marriage-a-b_n_185555.html It doesn't make up for being a bitch, but it does take the edge off.
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    Sep 28, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    Ciarsolo7 saidThe thread lost all validity as soon as Laura Schlessinger was mentioned.


    The thread is about satire against Laura Schlessinger.

    So you just didn't read all the way through, because the thread is about de-validating Dr. S.
  • camfer

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    Sep 28, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    This letter has been around for many years. You can read about it on snopes.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

    It's a good idea to check snopes before forwarding anything you receive via email.
  • bmw0

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    Sep 28, 2009 3:40 PM GMT
    Schlessinger received a bachelor's degree from Stony Brook University and a Ph.D. in physiology from Columbia University in 1974.

    Quoted from Wikipedia.

    And yes, it has been in circulation for a while, but reading it sure has shut up a lot of conservatives that i have had the "gay debate" with and does it in a light hearted way. icon_smile.gif