WILLIAM SAFIRE DEAD AT 79

  • HndsmKansan

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    Sep 27, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    William Safire, a speechwriter for President Richard Nixon and then a columnist for the New York Times, died Sunday. Safire was 79.



    For more information... http://www.politico.com

    I used to despise this man when I'd watch "Meet the Press" or another show, but later began to take him a little less seriously and even chucked with him occasionally.
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    Sep 28, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Twenty+ years ago I loved reading his column "On Language." But I was so uninformed, I had no idea who he was and what he used to be, a script writer for Nixon, among other things conservative. As stated in the cited review: "He had really two different hats," Collins said. "There were a large number of people out there that had no idea that [the opinion columnist and language columnist] were the same people."

    I see a lesson in this -- people with whom I have big political differences are capable of producing other ideas that I'm fond of. Just like my little brother...
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    Sep 28, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Irving Kristol and William Safire dead almost within a week of each other.

    (I'll resist putting the smiley emoticon after that).

  • GQjock

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    Sep 28, 2009 12:17 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Neophoenician saidIrving Kristol and William Safire dead almost within a week of each other.
    (I'll resist putting the smiley emoticon after that).

    Don't forget Bob Novak. Seems like a bad time to be a right-wing pundit.


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    Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM GMT
    I occasionally enjoyed his language column. Now, if only Tom Friedman and David Brooks would both be crushed to death under the weight of their own nonsense the Times might be worth reading again.
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    Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
    Despite his association with Nixon and Agnew, he was (or at least became) a conservative I could respect. He voted for Clinton in 1992. He wasn't as doctrinaire as some thought.

    I'm surprised the obit in the Times is so short.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/28/us/28safire.html?hp
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    Sep 30, 2009 6:29 AM GMT
    Maureen Dowd tribute to Safire:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/opinion/30dowd.html?ref=opinion
  • Koaa2

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    Oct 01, 2009 12:20 AM GMT
    GQjock said
    jprichva said
    Neophoenician saidIrving Kristol and William Safire dead almost within a week of each other.
    (I'll resist putting the smiley emoticon after that).

    Don't forget Bob Novak. Seems like a bad time to be a right-wing pundit.


    Ssshh..... or they'll realize I'm sending out bad vibes via the internet icon_eek.gif

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    I wonder how the health of Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs and Glen Beck is?
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    Oct 01, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    jprichva said
    theatrengym saidDespite his association with Nixon and Agnew, he was (or at least became) a conservative I could respect.

    Not me. He was one of the authors of the increasingly nasty style in politics. He wrote Spiro Agnew's attacks on liberals, the media, and anyone considered an "enemy" of Nixon's, paving the way for Newt Gingrich and the rest of the feces-flingers who now occupy the right.

    Conservatives weren't always vile. They are now. He's part of the reason.


    Well, maybe it was just because she knew him, but Maureen Dowd obviously would disagree.

    Perhaps later he repented a little. I agree that the stuff he wrote for Agnew was vile. Perhaps the Times was simply a good influence on him.

    But it's not as if there hasn't been a long tradition of extraordinary nastiness and negativity (appropriate word in a discussion of Safire) in American politics.