HE'S RIGHT you know, always one to make a point. whether hes being fUNNY OR NOT.

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    Sep 28, 2009 7:25 AM GMT
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    Sep 28, 2009 8:41 AM GMT
    dont know about him always making a point, but I agree with him on most of what he had to say on this clip.
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    Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM GMT
    "If we really want equality, then we have to start treating each other as equals in the gay community." This is something I have contended for a long time now!
    Stop hating/flamng a gay person who has conservative values. Stop hating/flaming those who are headless on here and other sites. Stop hating/flaming those with religious beliefs. Stop hating/flaming & berating those who claim they are bisexual. You don't know what's going on inside of a person. You don't know what they are thinking. You can't judge the life they must live.
    How can we expect to be equal in society when we clearly discriminate withIN our own group?.
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    Sep 28, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
    I don't hate the effeminate gays. I don't bash on them. I don't look down on them. But I'm just not attracted to that. I'm attracted to masculine gay men. So I hang out with masculine men because that's what I'm drawn to. There's a sense that I get from this clip that I should feel bad because I hang out with masculine gay men, or that I'm wrong if I hang out with straight people. Sorry. That's just ridiculous. If he's effeminate, then more power to him. But if I wanted to be with an effeminate guy, one who reminds me of a woman, then why wouldn't I just go ahead and be with a woman. In that case I would be straight. But I'm not. I'm gay. And I'm attracted to men. Real, masculine, all macho men. Don't bash on me because that's what I like. Sounds to me like he's just hacked because masculine gay guys aren't attracted to him.
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    Sep 28, 2009 5:14 PM GMT
    arf
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    Sep 29, 2009 7:18 AM GMT
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    Sep 29, 2009 7:56 AM GMT
    that's absurd. I am a masculine gay, and I work with a feminine gay guy every summer. I choose not to be around him not b/c he is a feminine gay but for the sole purpose that is fucking obnoxious and bugs the shit out of me. whereas one of my closest friends is a feminine gay, and have no problem walking down the street next to him. maybe part of the problem is that you're making an issue out of it when maybe some people judge by how they feel about the person as a whole, not how they feel about them as a "masculine" or "feminine" gay.
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    Sep 29, 2009 8:06 AM GMT
    also he's saying he doesn't know of any feminine gays who bash masculine gays? the very point of his rant is to say how the masculine guys don't hang around the feminine ones, is that not in and of itself a criticism of the masculine guys? let alone saying that "they're out to gay friends but not straight friends" in the derogatory tone he did is certainly a bash against masculine guys coming from a self proclaimed feminine gay. maybe he should think through what he says before saying it, maybe that way he won't contradict himself and negate his whole argument.
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    Sep 29, 2009 8:08 AM GMT
    its not a choice whether to be effeminate or masculine...that's just the way some men are, some are more masculine or more feminine, nothing wrong with that. Most guys on this site are attracted to a guys who are more masculine but it doesn't always have to be attraction for the guys who prefer masculine men. what about just being friends with a guy who's feminine?
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    Sep 29, 2009 8:17 AM GMT
    oh christ I had to stop that, I was laughing too hard at his stupidity and narrow biased viewpoints. his assumption that straight acting guys "camouflage" and live "double lives" is absurdity. he's clearly biased and thinks that w/in every gay guy is an inner flamer just dying to get out yet the masculine guys CHOOSE to with hold it. maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's possible for a guy to love another guy without having the compulsion to act like a woman. who knows but I think it just might be a possibility.
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    Sep 30, 2009 4:44 AM GMT
    I love it when people talk about something as subjective as masculine or feminine. The terms themselves are antiquated even in the straight community. It would be nice if we as a people could stop judging people based on outside appearance and demeanor.
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    Sep 30, 2009 1:07 PM GMT
    altair89 saidthat's absurd. I am a masculine gay, and I work with a feminine gay guy every summer. I choose not to be around him not b/c he is a feminine gay but for the sole purpose that is fucking obnoxious and bugs the shit out of me. whereas one of my closest friends is a feminine gay, and have no problem walking down the street next to him. maybe part of the problem is that you're making an issue out of it when maybe some people judge by how they feel about the person as a whole, not how they feel about them as a "masculine" or "feminine" gay.


    Exactly.

    Its how the person acts and not weather he is masculine or feminine. I have friends and acquaintences who arguably can be called a bit feminine but they are fun, respectful ad I enjoy their company a lot. Then there are the guys who are fem, always talking loudly and outrageously, incapable of having a spirited intelligent conversation, everybody is called "she", they get insulted and pissed too easily........bascially thy get on my gay nerves real fast.

    Conversely, there are masculine guys who are my friends. But then there are other gay masculine guys who are clinging so damn hard to that image of masulinity that they basically are assholes that have lost all their sponteneity and assumed identities that are so laughale. They don't mingle with anyone they may not be up to their standards of masculinity. Their masculinity seems so unatural and forced.

    I'm one of those gay guys that can easily be assumed to be straight. In fact, sometimes at gay clubs, a gay guy will approach me and ask me if I am straight and "experimenting"......offering to be my "muse" and show me the ropes...LOL. Straight women is gay bars sometimes think I am straight and hit on me. At the same time, its very liberating to be able to flirt with a fem guy and have a few laughs. I'm just myself.

    Maculine or fem......if you are kind, considerate, intuative and a nice person, you are fine.