Past or present?

  • bottomline

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    Sep 30, 2009 2:57 PM GMT

    This is a discussion I have been having a lot lately and want to see what you guys think. As the world closes in, it seems like there is so much going wrong? Now is the world and humanity actually getting worse, or do you think that the world is the same and this is just heightened awareness, an affect of today's digital media? Or are you one of those who believes thing are actually getting better?
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    Sep 30, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
    bottomline said
    This is a discussion I have been having a lot lately and want to see what you guys think. As the world closes in, it seems like there is so much going wrong? Now is the world and humanity actually getting worse, or do you think that the world is the same and this is just heightened awareness, an affect of today's digital media? Or are you one of those who believes thing are actually getting better?


    It's getting worse. The world is going to hell in a hand basket.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Sep 30, 2009 4:17 PM GMT
    I'm normally a very optimistic person, but still I feel it is definitely getting worse. It's like the world and so many of it's populations are at a breaking point and one day something is just going to snap.
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    Sep 30, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
    MadeNUSA said
    bottomline said
    This is a discussion I have been having a lot lately and want to see what you guys think. As the world closes in, it seems like there is so much going wrong? Now is the world and humanity actually getting worse, or do you think that the world is the same and this is just heightened awareness, an affect of today's digital media? Or are you one of those who believes thing are actually getting better?


    It's getting worse. The world is going to hell in a hand basket.


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    Sep 30, 2009 4:20 PM GMT

    The home has deteriorated, the media glorifies sex and immediate gratification. Even rich people have ceased to hold themselves up to a higher standard because it has become chic to appear rich for no reason. Poor people don't hold themselves up to a higher standard because there isn't one. There is no precipice anymore and yet this inconceivable expectation for human ascension remains. There won't be one because we seem to believe we are done and have arrived. Since the beginning of time, man's achievements and drive have been fueled by the need to improve (get some where). It takes humbling to improve, the knowledge that you do not know all of the answers and must yield to time for the answer. Do you know any humble people? Do people on tv and in government, on the news appear that way? Everyone is cocky and knows it all (or their god them knows it all) like obstinate teenagers. Obstinate teenagers, not good little boys and girls who pay attention and learn from trial and error like we used to be.

  • jrs1

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    Sep 30, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    I think in some aspects it has gotten better (e.g., gays being more active, the fight to keep trying in non-profits, the value of an education).

    but it has gotten worse in quite a few ways as well (e.g., the environment, television programming (nickelodeon especially), the class system/financiers in general).
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    Sep 30, 2009 8:10 PM GMT
    The world is more open, there is more free trade, free communication, free expression. A lot of good has come out of this: more productivity, more wealth, more awareness of the problems and dangers around us, more awareness of what to do to solve some of these problems.

    The flip side is that we have an information overload. There are too much conflicting information presented to us that we no longer have an idea what is relevant or truthful without doing the hard work of investigating each piece. It's similar to moving from a military camp where you don't need to question the truthfulness of everything said to you, to the streets of a big, poor city with many beggars and con artists. Or, from newspaper classified where every advertiser pays, to Craig's List where most do not pay (therefore scam artists have an incentive to practice their craft). The information age is overwhelming many of us. We lose perspective on what are the foundations of our lives vs. what are frivolous and trivial. We waste time battling the barrage of new information bombarding us on a daily basis, and many of us make the mistake of going down the wrong path.

    We're forced to develop our own ways to sift through this information, much like developing stereotypes to apply to strangers you meet on the streets of New York City: who is probably a beggar and who might try to rob you. We lose spontaneity and are forced to narrow our focus, which is detrimental to having a more complete perspective on life. Many people become too narrowly focused and weird because they only trust a few other people in their lives.

    Still I would say the world is generally improving.

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    Sep 30, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    The world is the same in a relative way
    but you're older
    shorter of breath
    and one day closer to death
  • jarhead5536

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    Sep 30, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
    Better or worse, I'm not so sure, but things are definitely changing. We are in a period of historic transition, which humanity has been through before. What the world will look like on the other side is anyone's guess. America may not like what comes out of this era of change, because most likely our century or so of global dominance is likely at an end...
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    Sep 30, 2009 8:15 PM GMT
    McGay saidThe world is the same in a relative way
    but you're older
    shorter of breath
    and one day closer to death


    Every minute closer to death