Agree Or Disagree?

  • NyRuinz

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    Sep 30, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
    I am pretty sure many of you have met a guy before who gave you all the signs of someone who is interested in you, but later on found out he had a girlfriend or wife. I am sure sometimes it may be wishful thinking on our parts, but a lot of times their may be an actual attraction there. I don't think anything is set in stone when it comes to sexual desire, and there may be a possibility that these guys may have found themselves being attracted to a man, but will not act on it, because of the fear of being labeled gay and not being able to live the picture perfect life with the wife, two kids etc.

    These guys will flirt with you, but once they become aware of how strong those feelings are the guilt sets in, and then they must prove how manly and straight they are by sleeping with some woman. I'm not saying that this is the case with all men, but I do believe it applies to some. I think if society did not look down on homosexuality as much as it did, you would really be surprised at how many people would come out as gay and bisexual. What are some of your thoughts???
  • NyRuinz

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    Sep 30, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
    jprichva saidMy thoughts: what the hell difference does it make?


    Hey relax, I know your approaching senior citizen status soon, but don't rush it you have plenty of time to be old, grumpy and bitter icon_biggrin.gif
  • NyRuinz

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    Sep 30, 2009 11:55 PM GMT
    jprichva saidThat wasn't me being grumpy.
    You'll KNOW when I'm being grumpy.

    My point was---whether they're really straight, or have gay leanings that they're terrified to show, the end result is the same: they're unavailable to you. So, as I said, what's the difference?


    Please Grandpa, save the internet thuggery for someone who is actually intimidated by you, you were trying to be a jerk (and you failed), and remember it's not what you say it's how you say it, damn now I can't get that "munsters" theme song out of my head....

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    Oct 01, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
    Hey you guys!!!! "Can't we all just get along" ? LOL !!!!! ------------------------------now back to the subject, I've had a lot of contacts with bi guys, several who while working for me in the presence of my other workers played it 'straight'. There were 5 who regularly worked for me, and 3 of them turned out to be bi, one of them moved in with me, one just wanted to experiment, and then several years later another called me and brought up that he was divorcing and wanted to start seeing me in a gay relationship, all of them in their twenties. But all but the last one were very shaky about whether or not they wanted to be considered bi, they just couldn't make up their minds. One day it was one thing, the next they would avoid contact, then in a few days they may bring up getting together themselves, it leaves a fella in limbo.
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    Oct 01, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    NyRuinz said
    jprichva saidMy thoughts: what the hell difference does it make?


    Hey relax, I know your approaching senior citizen status soon, but don't rush it you have plenty of time to be old, grumpy and bitter icon_biggrin.gif

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    Oct 01, 2009 1:44 AM GMT
    You already have your answer? You know the truth. It's in your question! This applies across the board. Society's master plan says inclusion yet we label people to exercise reference which at times causes exclusion. The thought of not being included in the grand scheme of things causes one not to live in TRUTH. Without that truth you will usually find deception, and what an ugly reflection to be faced w/ everyday
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    Oct 01, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
    NyRuinz saidPlease Grandpa, save the internet thuggery for someone who is actually intimidated by you...

    Just stop talking

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  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 01, 2009 6:58 AM GMT
    Caslon12000 said
    NyRuinz saidPlease Grandpa, save the internet thuggery for someone who is actually intimidated by you...

    Just stop talking

    haff a nice dae  sumwares else


    Okay and what does this have to do with you? oh okay you just want to be involved sure be my guest icon_biggrin.gif
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 01, 2009 6:59 AM GMT
    Hillie and Reallife thanx a lot for you input on the topic icon_exclaim.gif
  • Aries5452

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    Oct 01, 2009 9:27 AM GMT
    I have actually been living that exact thing. There is this guy that I have been talking to since high school, and just recently found out that he is married and has been for a while. He says that he likes being with his wife, but he likes the feel of a man. He says that the reason he is the way he is, is because of his job and his family. ( This is obviously Very long story short.) So maybe your right, if society didnt look the way it did at homosexuality, maybe he would be able to live the life he REALLY wants to.
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 01, 2009 9:02 PM GMT
    Aries5452 saidI have actually been living that exact thing. There is this guy that I have been talking to since high school, and just recently found out that he is married and has been for a while. He says that he likes being with his wife, but he likes the feel of a man. He says that the reason he is the way he is, is because of his job and his family. ( This is obviously Very long story short.) So maybe your right, if society didnt look the way it did at homosexuality, maybe he would be able to live the life he REALLY wants to.


    I just seen a segment on the news today discussing the increase in gay and lesbian characters on primetime shows, I think that's a great start.
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    Oct 01, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    I agree absolutely.
  • EricLA

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    Oct 01, 2009 9:25 PM GMT
    No, I've never experienced this personally, but I agree in concept. Of course, internalized homophobia probably creates all sorts of unwanted behavior in men. You have to wonder if homosexuality was acceptable whether gay men would be more likely to settle down, too. Or, if because they don't believe relationships ("gay" marriage) are accepted by society that they're more likely to engage in multiple partners. Of course, one can argue that gay men are just men and biologically predisposed to wanting to spread their seed, but my point is that society's view of homosexuality have other influences on gay men.
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    Oct 02, 2009 12:26 AM GMT
    Something else i've noticed when talking to biguys and gay curious, is that they frequently have brought it up to me that the 'ladies' they have dated, or when they were married and if they are married is that these 'ladies' drive them away from straight sex cause to them a relationship with them is such a pain in the ass that sex with them becomes undesireable. I'm talking to one guy right now that says this is one of his main motivators, he says he'll never put up with another of the 'ladies'. LOL !!!!