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Texas judge clears way for gay divorce, says gay marriage ban violates equal-protection right
metta8 Posts: 2004
Oct 02, 2009 6:05 PM GMT


Texas judge clears way for gay divorce, says gay marriage ban violates equal-protection right


http://www.sfexaminer.com/nation/ap/63192707.html
Ducky46 Posts: 2971
Oct 02, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
Gay divorce what a shock! Since the couple is geting divorced I would thik these idiots would be in favor of the divorce. I guess in doing so that would have to acknowledge the union. What a mess! Cheaper to keep him!
_chuck_ Posts: 484
Oct 02, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
/popcorn
Mepark Posts: 264
Oct 02, 2009 6:48 PM GMT
Can someone explain how two men can get divorced in a state that does not recognize gay marriage in the first place. Am I missing a key point?
groundcombat Posts: 262
Oct 02, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
Not if you followed the link..
Oct 02, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
Mepark saidCan someone explain how two men can get divorced in a state that does not recognize gay marriage in the first place. Am I missing a key point?

The US Constitution requires all states to give full faith and credit to the acts of sister states, including marriages and divorces. Of course this conflicts not only with Texas state law but also the Clinton-era Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) which purports to exempt gay marriage from the Full Faith and Credit clause.
DOMA and the Constitution are of course irreconcileable which in the long run means that gay marriage in some states will eventually lead to gay marriage in all. This will be an interesting case to watch as it wends its way up the food chain to the Supreme Court.
Oct 02, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
TexDef07 saidThis will be an interesting case to watch as it wends its way up the food chain to the Supreme Court.

I've got my money on Ted Olson and David Boies.
Anto Posts: 1109
Oct 02, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
The excuse 'approved by voters', as if that magically makes whatever they approve of inviolate.
Oct 02, 2009 9:05 PM GMT
Irony.... one is given the power to divorce before given the right to marry. So much for the "Sanctity of Marriage".
Tiller66 Posts: 243
Oct 02, 2009 9:30 PM GMT
Ryan_Andrew saidIrony.... one is given the power to divorce before given the right to marry. So much for the "Sanctity of Marriage".

Pricless point
Oct 02, 2009 9:43 PM GMT
The whole marriage ban thing is so typical of Texans. They'd like forcing their views on others, even when they're baseless.
Oct 02, 2009 10:07 PM GMT
chuckystud saidThe whole marriage ban thing is so typical of Texans. They'd like forcing their views on others, even when they're baseless.


The funny thing about it is that if you actually read the text of the bill it outlawed even common law marriage. Lots of common law marriage couples were fighting agianst the bill cause they were gonna be screwed and thats exactly what happened.
Oct 02, 2009 10:17 PM GMT
It's another example of the RR (Religous Rightwing nuts) trying to legislate their crappy beliefs about morality onto others.

Unfortunately, most folks are complacent, and do nothing about it.

Religion and those who practice it are a huge plague on civilization.
DCEric Posts: 2051
Oct 03, 2009 12:37 AM GMT
chuckystud saidReligion and those who practice it are a huge plague on civilization.

Religion, in and of itself, is not evil. It is only evil when it is used to excuse poor behavior. Science has this same flaw.
waterman Posts: 39
Oct 03, 2009 1:10 AM GMT
TexDef07 said
Mepark saidCan someone explain how two men can get divorced in a state that does not recognize gay marriage in the first place. Am I missing a key point?

The US Constitution requires all states to give full faith and credit to the acts of sister states, including marriages and divorces. Of course this conflicts not only with Texas state law but also the Clinton-era Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) which purports to exempt gay marriage from the Full Faith and Credit clause.
DOMA and the Constitution are of course irreconcileable which in the long run means that gay marriage in some states will eventually lead to gay marriage in all. This will be an interesting case to watch as it wends its way up the food chain to the Supreme Court.


All politicians of all stripes are happy with this, I'll bet. No matter what happens, they can blame the judges.
Oct 03, 2009 1:33 AM GMT
jprichva said
TexDef07 saidThis will be an interesting case to watch as it wends its way up the food chain to the Supreme Court.

I've got my money on Ted Olson and David Boies.


So do I. Does anyone know when they are due to argue their case in front of the Supreme Court?
Oct 03, 2009 2:14 AM GMT
So, somebody in Texas has awaken from the great collective Texas Coma?
Oct 03, 2009 2:14 AM GMT
DCEric said
chuckystud saidReligion and those who practice it are a huge plague on civilization.

Religion, in and of itself, is not evil. It is only evil when it is used to excuse poor behavior. Science has this same flaw.


Religion in and of itself is evil.
Oct 03, 2009 2:30 AM GMT
north_runner said
jprichva saidFrom the
TexDef07 saidThis will be an interesting case to watch as it wends its way up the food chain to the Supreme Court.

I've got my money on Ted Olson and David Boies.


So do I. Does anyone know when they are due to argue their case in front of the Supreme Court?

It will be years before it gets to that level, if ever.
The family court in Dallas is said to be ready to grant a decree of divorce. The Texas Attorney General will seek an order from an appeals court to stay the family court's order for lack of jurisdiction over a marriage not recognized as such by Texas law. Assuming the appeals court grants the order it would then be subject to appeal to the Texas Supreme Court. From there the losing side could seek review in federal court based on the federal constitutional issue.
Long-term job security for the lawyers involved.
HotCoach Posts: 213
Oct 03, 2009 3:24 AM GMT
I heard that Gay Divorce will be the key to Gay Marriage.

Remember "marriage" is a legal contract about property. All else can be gotten around.
_chuck_ Posts: 484
Oct 03, 2009 4:10 PM GMT

taking your kids to visit your dying spouse in the hospital cannot be gotten around

http://www.proudparenting.com/node/1315