A decent article about the reality of fats

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    Dec 13, 2007 8:52 PM GMT
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22116724/
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    Dec 13, 2007 9:32 PM GMT
    Thanks for posting that, Chucky! I've been clued into the reality about fats for a few years now, and it's nice to see it finally hitting the mainstream.

    There's a great, recently published book by Gary Taubes called Good Calories, Bad Calories that goes into great detail about this subject.

    Another great resource:

    http://westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

    And, finally, one of my fave YouTube videos:

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    Dec 14, 2007 5:00 AM GMT
    You're right, that's a great article, and I love the video too.

    I've bookmarked all of it to re-read again when I'm not quite so burnt out from work.
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    Dec 20, 2007 1:36 AM GMT
    Great article! It takes sane, level-headed eating and excercise to stay healthy. Not some faulty study that everyone jumped on as gospel.
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    Dec 20, 2007 7:47 PM GMT
    Thank you for the article. Chucky gives great advice:
    1) eat a lot of food
    2) less sit ups = more icon_biggrin.gif

    But what proportion of macronutrients is recommended then?

    I do 40,40,20. With fat being lowest of course. That seems similar to the low-carb group in the study mentioned on page 4 of the article (they didn't give carb intake, so who can say).

    But what is being recommended, and what would you folks recommend for our special dietary demands?
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    Dec 28, 2007 8:25 PM GMT
    Peanut butter :-)

    Dark chocolate.

    I mean, fuck...it's the holidays!
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    Jan 02, 2008 8:39 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidPeanut butter :-)


    Gotta be careful there with the Peanut butter - I've been reading a lot about how it's related to break outs of acne. This... coming from the person who used to eat a jar every two days (and still weigh 170) icon_razz.gif.
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    Jan 03, 2008 8:53 AM GMT
    Stupid arsed article sorry.

    How many obese Masai warriors do you see runing round? You dont due to the level of activity these guys do. I know thats not all the article is about but its just another load of propaganda shite that helps justify or blows smoke up peoples arses so they dont know where they are going.



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    Jan 06, 2008 9:17 PM GMT
    I switched to a no man made carb , low processed isugar diet with no fat restriction...I even increase my intake of olive oil, nuts and fish oils and red meat . The result was 10% body fat and a chosletrol test that was off the chart low for my age group.
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    Jan 08, 2008 2:06 PM GMT
    "Its just another load of propaganda shite that helps justify or blows smoke up peoples arses so they dont know where they are going."

    Wow that's a pretty bold statement bfg1, care to back it up?
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    Jan 08, 2008 4:21 PM GMT
    The lipid hypothesis, junk science information cascade has been the prevailing nutritional paradigm for a long time, and as it is slowly dismantled, a lot of kicking and screaming is to be expected.

    In my own case, after purging my diet of polyunsaturated vegetable oil, doubling my meat consumption, and favoring saturated fats like virgin coconut oil and butter, my cholesterol dropped from 208 to 169.
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    Jan 08, 2008 10:05 PM GMT
    xKorix said"Its just another load of propaganda shite that helps justify or blows smoke up peoples arses so they dont know where they are going."

    Wow that's a pretty bold statement bfg1, care to back it up?


    sorry lost the thread.

    I dont by any means dispute the findings of the article or what it is proporting in any way shape or form. But what they are doing with this article is creating confusion and misconceived ideas within the undeucated masses (and I count myself within that).

    In its very essence that article is now saying dont believe all that bad stuff that has been said about fat its not that bad for you so here's your free pass to eat fat pleass pass go and collect £100 while you are at it.

    It does not change the fact that the level of fat consumed by the masses is an issue, especially when we face obesity at such high levels of the population. It doesnt change the fact that nutritionaly fat whilst it has its place in a diet should be the lowest proportion of the diet. It doesnt change the fact that if you are trying to lose weight you need to keep your dietary intake of fat to the lower end of the spectrum so that the body can concentrate on burning stored fat and not dietary fat which is far easier to metabolise.

    Its basicaly the fat supporters shouting from their soap box to keep alongside the protein and carb advocates. Hardly surprising as 70% of that websites income comes from the very companies that will happily sell you all the fat burning products under the sun!