WHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ?

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    Oct 05, 2009 9:41 AM GMT
    WHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ? EVERYWHERE I DRIVE, EVERYONES TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE. IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCED ALL THESE LAWS, WE COULD BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT
  • bmw0

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    Oct 05, 2009 2:47 PM GMT
    Because it takes more attention to look at the keyboard and type in letters than it does to hit a button and say hello.

    Most states are attempting to ban both, but since texting is the worse of the two they are starting there.

    I personally think it is bull shit, and when i lived in NC (where it is now illegal to text and drive) i still did it. Just keep the phone low and dont do it when you run the risk of putting someone else in danger (ie dont follow to closely).

    It stinks that we need laws to enforce common sense.
  • TexanMan82

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    Oct 05, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    The federal deficit? Really?
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    Oct 05, 2009 2:51 PM GMT
    italianguy63 saidWHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ? EVERYWHERE I DRIVE, EVERYONES TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE. IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCED ALL THESE LAWS, WE COULD BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT


    bob ... why are you yellin'?
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    Oct 05, 2009 2:54 PM GMT
    I really don't see how enforcing laws brings down the deficit, $11.9 trillion is it?
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    Oct 05, 2009 2:57 PM GMT
    The fines are not high enough. It should be at least $5,000.00 and 5 points on your driving record. Bet that will stop them'em! After being almost run down by some idiot on his phone. I have a bias agianst people who drive and talk and or text on their cell phones. It's just stupid!
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    Oct 05, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
    Seeing as fines for state offenses go to state coffers... the federal deficit would stay exactly the same...
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:02 PM GMT
    ...so that I can report my best friend before he kills someone for being so fucking irresponsible? I've almost died multiple times because of someone texting while driving. It's immature, irresponsible and even more dangerous than drinking and driving, so the punishment should be equally serious.
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:08 PM GMT
    I beg to differ. Ask the several ticketed members of my family if nobody enforces that law. Lol California.
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:19 PM GMT
    My concern is that such anti-cell phone laws will affect use of hands-free solutions.

    Our 2008 car has the Microsoft SYNC system, which automatically pairs with either of our cell phones as we enter the car. Incoming calls are answered by pressing a steering wheel button, no more distracting than setting the cruise control, and then you talk hands-free, as if to the person sitting next to you.

    For placing calls, you press the same steering wheel button, then say the name of the person you want to call. Or else speak the phone numbers. It works extremely well.

    I hope when legislators enact these laws, the wording does not technically make even the SYNC approach illegal, which I think would be excessive. What next: you can't talk in the car to your passengers? icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidMy concern is that such anti-cell phone laws will affect use of hands-free solutions.

    Our 2008 car has the Microsoft SYNC system, which automatically pairs with either of our cell phones as we enter the car. Incoming calls are answered by pressing a steering wheel button, no more distracting than setting the cruise control, and then you talk hands-free, as if to the person sitting next to you.

    For placing calls, you press the same steering wheel button, then say the name of the person you want to call. Or else speak the phone numbers. It works extremely well.

    I hope when legislators enact these laws, the wording does not technically make even the SYNC approach illegal, which I think would be excessive. What next: you can't talk in the car to your passengers? icon_mad.gif


    Hands free is not a solution. Try this test: have someone sit next to you and engage you in conversation while you try to pay attention to a plot driven, dialogue heavy film. You will find that you cannot talk to someone and focus your attention on something else at the same time. Same with driving and talking to someone. It's not so much the mechanics of using a device, it's where your concentration is.

    Distracted driving kills. Those distractions include, cell phones/PDA's, screaming children, eating, conversation with your passengers, changing radio stations or CD tracks, etc. Anything that takes your focus off the road is dangerous...
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:34 PM GMT
    Check this out..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnHvgzXOwNU

    saw this a while ago...quite graphic...not too relevant to your law debate..but still related.
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 said
    Hands free is not a solution. Same with driving and talking to someone. It's not so much the mechanics of using a device, it's where your concentration is.

    Distracted driving kills. Those distractions include, cell phones/PDA's, screaming children, eating, conversation with your passengers, changing radio stations or CD tracks, etc. Anything that takes your focus off the road is dangerous.


    Huh? Really? Conversation with passengers?
    I'm not a fan of those talking on cell phones w/o hand-free, either and I have reported people I've seen texting and or reading a BOOK while driving, but I think you overreach.
    Eating while driving is more dangerous because you may get choked and loose control or drop a sandwich and swerve in traffic.
    Those I can understand. But a conversation?? Not a heavy, "OMG I'm going to die conversation"...just a standard one.

    Funny, I can manage to drive 8 hours from my home to Myrtle Beach , SC with a passenger and a radio station to listen to and not get in a wreck, cause one, or get a ticket for speeding.
    But I do have more than one active brain cell......
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    Oct 05, 2009 3:59 PM GMT
    I DO NOT KNOW BUT YOU REALLY SOUND LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I'M NOT GOING TO LIE, I DON'T EVEN READ POSTS WHEN THEY'RE IN ALL CAPS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I CLICKED TO OPEN THIS THREAD.
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    Oct 05, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
    italianguy63 saidWHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ? EVERYWHERE I DRIVE, EVERYONES TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE. IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCED ALL THESE LAWS, WE COULD BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT


    Humans are a weird species.

    There's no evidence to believe in false belief systems, and, yet, many folks believe the malarkey they were indoctrinated with since birth. Many folks are very weak-minded, when you think about it.

    Obesity kills folks like flies, to the tune of 2 million folks annually, yet, folks stuff themselves, and at a huge cost to society, and to themselves.

    Insurance companies skim 35% profit off of sick and injured people, yet, some folks defend them in the only modern country without universal health care. 10,000s of folks die needlessly annually.

    Real wages have declined for decades, and, since 1967, more wealth has moved to the top 1% of the country so that now 1% of the folks control 95% of the wealth, yet...folks support this distorted form of capitalism / greed for the wealthiest, with the wrongful vision that anyone can do it. They can't.

    It's been known for 40 years how incredibly dangerous smoking is and its huge cost to our society, yet, folks spend $50 a carton for cancer sticks at convenience stores around the country. The poison themselves daily without regard to themselves or society.

    Folks know that driving with distractions, such as texting, or talking on the phone, are incredibly dangerous, but, they do it anyway. They live in an I,I,I, me,me,me world where everything revolves around them.

    We've know how HIV is transmitted since the 80's, yet, morons fuck bareback every day, then, plead the victim when they get sick.

    Many humans are inherently stupid in their behavior, like it, or not. They're irresponsible, and blame others for their own bad behavior.

    Texting while driving, statistically, is 15 times more dangerous than driving drunk. You'd think a decent person would care about others enough to not do it, but, they do.

    And, for those commenting on hands-free cell phone use while driving, it's not any better at preventing accidents than hands-on cell phone solutions, statistically. If you drive distracted you can kill yourself, and others. Do your homework on these topics.

    Pay the deficit with traffic citations? How about just doing the right thing by your fellow man, and being a decent human being?

    Illiteracy plagues our country. We have folks who are to lazy to study on anything and believe whatever fluff is presented the current day. They are incredibly easy to fool into about anything.
    The human race has its work cut out for it.
  • EricLA

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    Oct 05, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
    There are plenty of laws that aren't enforced enough. There are only so many police on patrol at any given time, especially in major cities. I agree, the number of people still using hand held phones while driving is scary. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't make texting while driving illegal, too.
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:29 PM GMT
    jarhead5536 saidHands free is not a solution. Try this test: have someone sit next to you and engage you in conversation while you try to pay attention to a plot driven, dialogue heavy film. You will find that you cannot talk to someone and focus your attention on something else at the same time. Same with driving and talking to someone. It's not so much the mechanics of using a device, it's where your concentration is.

    Distracted driving kills. Those distractions include, cell phones/PDA's, screaming children, eating, conversation with your passengers, changing radio stations or CD tracks, etc. Anything that takes your focus off the road is dangerous...

    Therefore, would you support laws that would cite any driver the police observe to be talking, their lips moving? We cannot converse in the car? Can we talk to ourselves? Can we exclaim out-loud when another car cuts us off illegally? Must our lips be sealed and not open, the whole time we are behind the wheel?

    Or if we can converse in the car, how is talking with a vehicle hands-free speaker different from a person sitting next to us? I would like to know how the police are to determine these things, and on what basis they will stop us and pull us over.

    Please elaborate.
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:30 PM GMT
    Yeah, this is really a hard one to enforce. Someone mentioned that shaming the practice of being on the phone while driving as being effective. I guess you could do that through repeated advertising about what cell phone usage in a car may mean in terms of accidents and deaths etc.
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:31 PM GMT
    italianguy63 saidWHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ? EVERYWHERE I DRIVE, EVERYONES TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE. IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCED ALL THESE LAWS, WE COULD BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT

    Cops can't be everywhere, all the time. Also, some crimes are more important than others. If a cop sees a person texting while driving and sees another person getting mugged, he's probably gonna go after the mugger.

    Whether it's texting or speeding or robbery.. people are going to break laws if they know they can get away with it.
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    because there are stupid people all over this planet and we need stupid laws to keep them in line icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
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    italianguy63 saidWHY DO WE NEED A NO TEXTING WHILE DRIVING LAW, WHEN NOBODY ENFORCES THE NO DRIVING WHILE TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE ? EVERYWHERE I DRIVE, EVERYONES TALKING ON A HANDHELD PHONE. IF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ENFORCED ALL THESE LAWS, WE COULD BRING DOWN THE FEDERAL DEFICIT

    Cops can't be everywhere, all the time. Also, some crimes are more important than others. If a cop sees a person texting while driving and sees another person getting mugged, he's probably gonna go after the mugger.

    Whether it's texting or speeding or robbery.. people are going to break laws if they know they can get away with it.



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    Oct 05, 2009 6:42 PM GMT
    Gilbercrat said...so that I can report my best friend before he kills someone for being so fucking irresponsible? I've almost died multiple times because of someone texting while driving. It's immature, irresponsible and even more dangerous than drinking and driving, so the punishment should be equally serious.


    Ahmen and shout it from the choir....so get pissed off by people who are either talking on the cell or txting while driving.
  • Webster666

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    Oct 05, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
    Otherwise, people would be screaming, "Why doesn't somebody do something ?" or "There oughta be a law !"
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    Oct 05, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
    I notice that the people that seem to swerve over the lines and into my lane are always on a cell phone. And a new phenomenon, people on cell phones at a 4-way stop that flag to you with their hands to "go ahead," even though they have the right of way. Almost like they are saying "Go ahead, I'm busy on the phone"

    Yo, what's up with that?

    Vic
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    Oct 05, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    I don't know that I'd blame law enforcement. Many departments are very understaffed and unfortunately they have to be selective as to what they do with their resources. Nevertheless, CHP Officers managed to hand out 175 tickets in one September enforcement effort.


    Santa Cruz County traffic enforcement cites 175 cell talking, texting drivers Tuesday


    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ci_13259287?source=most_viewed