i found what is turning out to be a VERY good stack for thin guys with a fast metabolism who are trying to gain mass

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    Oct 06, 2009 5:53 PM GMT
    everyone knows that everyones bodies work differently, even within the group of people who could describe themselves as "thin guys, with fast metabolisms" however i found a stack thats working out very well for me, though i tweaked the usage a bit

    here is my stack, right down the the vitamins!

    1 serving (3 scoops with 2% milk) UP YOUR MASS by MHP in the morning when i wake up

    1 serving (1-3 scoops with water) of SUPER PUMP by GASPARI NUTRITION half an hour before my workout

    1 serving (2 scoops with water) of CELL MASS by BSN immediatly after workout

    1 serving (3 scoops with 2% milk) of ISO MASS EXTREME GAINER by ULTIMATE NUTRITION before sleeping

    i also take a normal mens multivitamin, a cheap dollar store multivitamin, a garlic oil pill, a fish oil pill and a liver support pill with milk thistle (which IS important, because excess amino acids can build up in the liver), all with my iso mass before i go to sleep

    but just as important all of that is to continually eat throughout the day, just dont eat lots of garbage, leans meats, nuts, complex carbs like pasta, that sort of thing

    let me know how it works out!icon_biggrin.gif
  • EricLA

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    Oct 06, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
    Wow, that's a lot of supplements. How much does this put you back each month?
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    Oct 06, 2009 6:44 PM GMT
    I use to do supplements/ vitamins years ago. Once it started making me ill and moody I stopped. Now all I take is a multivitamin that my doctor suggested.

    With all the calories I am suppose to take to bulk up just makes me feel bloated reading about them.
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    Oct 06, 2009 6:59 PM GMT
    EricLA saidWow, that's a lot of supplements. How much does this put you back each month?


    it isnt as bad as you would think

    if you hit the right sale and have a membership that is lol, but vitamin would has free memberships and GNC has cheap ones, also you can find things cheaper online unless its the buy on get one half off sale at gnc

    either way id say a month maybe $150 if you do some comparative shopping and get the sale with the member discount, other wise id say about $200 (but thats if you use every one every day, where as i only use the super pump and the cell mass on workout days)

    however, i have a low income job and i still manage, but im really dedicated to gaining weight, right now thats pretty much my only concern outside of work

    im sure you could find cheaper supplements but those are particularly good because of there low sugar and high protein count, along with having lots of vitamins and having different kinds of proteins and creatines for different absorption rates
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    Oct 06, 2009 7:05 PM GMT
    Why not spend money on real food?
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    Oct 06, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    Well, definitely chart your progress here over the next weeks. I'm interested to see how it works out for you. I keep debating whether to put on a bit more mass myself, but I'm at the stage where it's difficult finding clothes that fit in the right places. I'm not sure I want to move from tight Smalls to ill-fitting Mediums.

    If I can ask, what's your workout schedule? How many days a week are you working out? How much time are you spending per workout? How much is cardio versus weightlifting? Are you still doing the stacks on your off days?
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    Oct 06, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    Also here is what i generally eat in a day, not ALL healthy, but id say its decent, i havent started logging WHEN i eat, but the key is to be eating frequently

    i generally eat

    at least a pound of chicken breast BAKED because thats the most healthy method of cooking it

    i normally eat a donut and some sort of sandwich (breakfast sandwhich, blt, chicken salad) during my workday at tim hortons, it isnt the healthiest option, but it keeps my metabolism from breaking down my gains

    a few pieces of fresh fruit

    some sort of complex carbohydrate at least twice a day (pasta, breads, rice)

    i try to keep my sugar intake low, but on occasion i slip up and have some fruit snacks or something if im in a rush (again, not healthy, i wouldnt suggest it but it will keep your body from breaking down your gains for a short period of time if nothing else)

    i always try to work some vegetables in there even though i HATE veggies
    i also normally through in something canned unfortunetly, like canned lasagna from chefboy, its cheap, has complex carbs and some protein

    ill also usually buy a power bar from a gas station or something if im out and about

    i snack on sunchips, mixed nuts, sunflower seeds and stuff through the day too

    a couple classes of some sort of juice

    and one of the most important things, i drink ALOT of water, at least 8, 8oz glasses of water a day, as suggest pretty much everywhere where health is concerned. the array of health benifits its overwhelming, not only will it help tone your muscles, it will give you more energy and really help your skin

    but ive gained almost 8 pounds in the past 2 weeks, and it isnt fat, its DEFINETLY muscle because im fitting into my jeans as well as ever and still have just as much definition as ever, if not more

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    Oct 06, 2009 7:12 PM GMT
    EricLA saidWell, definitely chart your progress here over the next weeks. I'm interested to see how it works out for you. I keep debating whether to put on a bit more mass myself, but I'm at the stage where it's difficult finding clothes that fit in the right places. I'm not sure I want to move from tight Smalls to ill-fitting Mediums.

    If I can ask, what's your workout schedule? How many days a week are you working out? How much time are you spending per workout? How much is cardio versus weightlifting? Are you still doing the stacks on your off days?


    honestly i workout when i can, i have a pretty busy schedule but i TRY to workout 4-5 times a week, however if i have just upped my weight or something like that thats putting more stress on my body and am feeling particularly sore i will skip a day

    i usually spend about an hour working out, and always try to mix up my workout so that my muscles dont get to used to it, even if im not doing a new exercise, i try to do my exercises in a different order every week, i dont do a whole lot of cardio because i have a two mile bike ride to and from work EVERY day, so that pretty much does it for my cardio, on days im feeling extra energetic ill do a jog around the block a few times which is an extra mile or so

    also, i only take my protein shakes on non workout days, not the super pump or the cell mass
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    Oct 06, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    Sounds like you're doing all the right things from my somewhat limited knowledge. If you're slim, you don't want to do a ton of cardio. I only do a few minutes as a warm up and to get up my heart rate. My metabolism does a good job of keeping me reasonably slim.
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    Oct 06, 2009 7:26 PM GMT
    I say keep spending if it really is helping. The end results are worth all the money in the world in my book. icon_wink.gif
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    I love donuts. It's a shame I can only eat the once a month. White bread with Chocolate icing and rainbow sprinkles (for some color) are the best!
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    I only take 100% post-workout oats and whey shake. I stopped taking creatine because it makes me feel like a cheater.
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    Oct 07, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
    those are my thoughts exactly, a little bit of money is just a trifle for a lifetime of liking what you see in the mirror
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    Oct 22, 2009 8:50 PM GMT
    Sounds like a wet dream for a gnc salesman somewhere...

    Not that I'm aggainst the sports supplement industry
  • lacrosse_port...

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    Oct 24, 2009 9:35 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidSounds like a wet dream for a gnc salesman somewhere...

    Not that I'm aggainst the sports supplement industry




    hahahahahahaha
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    Oct 25, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    I consumed a ton of supplements in my beginning stages. It helped a great deal. I had to peal off the weight gainer as it started to make me a chunkey monkey. Gain weight a lot slower now but I am a lot thinner.
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    Oct 25, 2009 2:49 PM GMT
    I worked out five days a week, ate a chicken and vegetable and fruit heavy diet without much junk, and had 3 protein shakes a day. That is how I put on muscle mass when I was very skinny with a fast metabolism.
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    Oct 26, 2009 7:23 PM GMT
    MsclDrew saidSounds like a wet dream for a gnc salesman somewhere...

    Not that I'm aggainst the sports supplement industry


    hahaha

    I'd say the VAST majority of "I have fast metabolism" guys just plain don't eat enough, and have a mistaken idea about what an adequate amount of food really is.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 27, 2009 9:25 AM GMT
    Just eat real food!!! Besides if you are not truely working out hard/daily-you might just be cloggin your arteries!!icon_idea.gif

    From the looks of your pic, I don't think it's working.icon_question.gif
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    Oct 27, 2009 6:00 PM GMT
    When you make your protein shakes, just throw a burger in the blender and you're all set. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 29, 2009 8:43 AM GMT
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    UFJocknerd said
    MsclDrew saidSounds like a wet dream for a gnc salesman somewhere...

    Not that I'm aggainst the sports supplement industry


    hahaha

    I'd say the VAST majority of "I have fast metabolism" guys just plain don't eat enough, and have a mistaken idea about what an adequate amount of food really is.


    aaaaactually i buy online, its alot cheaper and there are usually some promo codes you can find icon_biggrin.gif

    and as for not eating enough, i was on a 10000 calorie a day diet, all lean meats, fruits, veggies, complex carbs and a very small amount of sugars and fats to make sure im balanced, but it didnt even dent my weight

    btw now im up to almost 160, after only a month or so, and its all muscle icon_biggrin.gif
  • UFJocknerd

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    Oct 29, 2009 2:36 PM GMT
    zacharyZEALOUSY said
    and as for not eating enough, i was on a 10000 calorie a day diet, all lean meats, fruits, veggies, complex carbs and a very small amount of sugars and fats to make sure im balanced, but it didnt even dent my weight


    No, you weren't, sorry. 10k is the calorie intake of an olympic athlete during peak training. This is just like the fellow in the other thread who claimed to be intaking 7000 cals a day. You're calculating it incorrectly.
  • MercuryMax

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    Oct 29, 2009 2:43 PM GMT
    I say show us some results and then let the user decide if thats what they want.
  • _gingin

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    Oct 29, 2009 2:43 PM GMT
    donuts. yum.
    i can eat 12 in a sitting.
    and i'll let my metabolism slog through that while i laugh about it in the gym icon_cool.gif
  • Webster666

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    Nov 29, 2009 3:50 AM GMT
    "Why not spend money on real food?"
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    BINGO !!
    Everybody wants to take a magic pill.

    The OP said that it's important to also eat continuously throughout the day.
    I have no doubt what so ever, that the constant eating has 99.9% more to do with weight gain than a ton of supplements.

    As someone who has worked out for a long long time, and tried all manner of supplements, I can't stress strongly enough that guys who spend their hard earned money on supplements might as well be flushing it down the toilet. The only possible exception is Creatine.
  • Webster666

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    Nov 29, 2009 3:57 AM GMT
    "but ive gained almost 8 pounds in the past 2 weeks, and it isnt fat, its DEFINETLY muscle"
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    So, in a year, we can expect to see pics of a guy who has gained over 200 pounds, "and it isnt fat, its DEFINETLY muscle ?"

    Who are you trying to kid ?
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    Nov 30, 2009 5:50 AM GMT
    Yea I'm still skinny, but I did gain a ton of weight when i went to college.

    But I was on a meal plan and was doing it on purpose.

    Supplements help, but you just have to eat till you feel like barfing lol.

    I used to actually be clinically underweight so I'm proud of at least getting to average weight lol.