non-dairy, non-soy protein powder

  • Hunter9

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    Oct 09, 2009 4:20 AM GMT
    im trying to wean myself completely off dairy because ive read just too much shit about it and i don't need it. i also don't eat soy. can anybody suggest a good protein powder alternative? perhaps egg protein? also would prefer one without the artificial sweeteners... unfortunately the Optimum Nutrition egg protein powder (my company of choice) uses acesulfame as a sweetener... that's bad shit that i dont want in my oatmeal every morning.

    any suggestions?
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    Oct 09, 2009 5:32 AM GMT
    hey, i dont have a suggestion for you regarding the protein powder--but would you mind posting or sharing a link of the stuff youve read about dairy not being good.i drink about about 300 ml of whole milk every day and have been since i can remember...
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    Oct 09, 2009 5:42 AM GMT
    here is an egg protein without artificial sweeteners:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mrm/eggwhite.html All Natural Egg White Protein contains at least 23 grams of protein per serving and NO artificial flavors, colors, or sweeteners. This state-of-the-art formula uses all natural flavoring and is free of any dairy products.

    There is also rice protein:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/brownrice.html
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    Oct 09, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    I found this interesting link that lets you custom mix a protein from different kinds .. including pea protein

    http://www.trueprotein.com/custom_product.aspx

    click on the various protein types for a detailed description
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    Oct 09, 2009 6:24 AM GMT
    I use hemp. In addition to the protein supplement, hemp seeds have a very good ratio of omega Fatty acids.

    http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=655972&prrfnbr=708933
  • Hunter9

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    Oct 09, 2009 6:30 AM GMT
    sundayswim saidhey, i dont have a suggestion for you regarding the protein powder--but would you mind posting or sharing a link of the stuff youve read about dairy not being good.i drink about about 300 ml of whole milk every day and have been since i can remember...


    i think a simple google search would find you results im referring to about dairy's dangers.... many of which are quite scientific and scholarly, though some are just hysterics. but if you think about, dairy SHOULD disgust us... or would you not have a problem if a pregnant woman emptied her teet into a glass, shake it up a bit and then spread it onto your afternoon sandwich?... mmm dee-lish!
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    Oct 09, 2009 8:07 AM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    i think a simple google search would find you results im referring to about dairy's dangers.... many of which are quite scientific and scholarly, though some are just hysterics. but if you think about, dairy SHOULD disgust us... or would you not have a problem if a pregnant woman emptied her teet into a glass, shake it up a bit and then spread it onto your afternoon sandwich?... mmm dee-lish!

    Well, the same thing could be said about eggs.

    If you think about it, the egg is a chicken's period. It's just less bloody than a human's. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
    I've been using this onehttp://www.genuinehealth.com/by-name/vegan-proteins.html?detail=vegan-proteins-formula and the taste is ok.

    I use soy milk with it instead of water and add fruit.
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:33 PM GMT

    Whatever you use be careful to make sure you know the source of the protein powder, re: melamine in rice protein powder.

    Killed a whole lot of pets.

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    Oct 09, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
    There's nothing wrong with dairy. Just ask Manuel Villacorta, the nutritionist who writes for this site. He has me drinking milk every day.

    The fact that you personally find it revolting has no bearing on anything. Lots of people find homosexuality revolting.
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    Oct 09, 2009 2:21 PM GMT
    heheh, xrichx.

    "If you think about it, the egg is a chicken's period. It's just less bloody than a human's"

    A human's period is the disposal of an egg unfertilized. A chicken lays an egg for a whole other reason.

    The two can't be compared this way, really.
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    Oct 09, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    HEMP

    I agree with PerpetuallyDistracted. Hemp is an excellent alternative source of protein. 17 year vegetarian here.
  • Hunter9

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    Oct 09, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    rotabilis saidThere's nothing wrong with dairy. Just ask Manuel Villacorta, the nutritionist who writes for this site. He has me drinking milk every day.

    The fact that you personally find it revolting has no bearing on anything. Lots of people find homosexuality revolting.


    that's a horrible comparison. my revulsion towards dairy is only secondary towards the scientific evidence against its harms... so that would be the equivalent of, what, perhaps the Christian Right and Ex-Gay ministries... gimme a break
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    Oct 09, 2009 3:14 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    Whatever you use be careful to make sure you know the source of the protein powder, re: melamine in rice protein powder.

    Killed a whole lot of pets.

    icon_eek.gif oh noes! funny you should mention that .. one of the ones I saw said melamine free, and I wondered what they were talking about icon_eek.gif totally forgot.
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Oct 09, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    Actually, xchrisx is right. The vast majority of chicken eggs under modern farming techniques are unfertilized, which make them, essentially, chicken periods.

    Minus the endometrial lining, of course.
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    Oct 09, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    Hunter9 said
    rotabilis saidThere's nothing wrong with dairy. Just ask Manuel Villacorta, the nutritionist who writes for this site. He has me drinking milk every day.

    The fact that you personally find it revolting has no bearing on anything. Lots of people find homosexuality revolting.


    that's a horrible comparison. my revulsion towards dairy is only secondary towards the scientific evidence against its harms... so that would be the equivalent of, what, perhaps the Christian Right and Ex-Gay ministries... gimme a break


    Okay then, please cite me some bona-fide scientific references for your claim. Don't just tell me to Google it; as you pointed out, there's a lot of hysteria out there. Show me the sources that convinced you.
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    that's a horrible comparison. my revulsion towards dairy is only secondary towards the scientific evidence against its harms... so that would be the equivalent of, what, perhaps the Christian Right and Ex-Gay ministries... gimme a break[/quote]





    You really need to watch "scientific evidence". It can be as much constructed fantasy as anything else. Just about every scientific fact I learned in grade school has now been debunked.

    You may want to ask yourself why you subject yourself to
    fake food and all the bad science that goes with it when the only really scientific thing to do is to eat what our bodies were designed to eat by the evolutionary process.

    Search on paleolithic diet.
  • Hunter9

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    Oct 09, 2009 3:29 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said

    that's a horrible comparison. my revulsion towards dairy is only secondary towards the scientific evidence against its harms... so that would be the equivalent of, what, perhaps the Christian Right and Ex-Gay ministries... gimme a break






    You really need to watch "scientific evidence". It can be as much constructed fantasy as anything else. Just about every scientific fact I learned in grade school has now been debunked.

    You may want to ask yourself why you subject yourself to
    fake food and all the bad science that goes with it when the only really scientific thing to do is to eat what our bodies were designed to eat by the evolutionary process.

    Search on paleolithic diet.
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    i am absolutely trying to remove as much "fake food" as possible in my every day diet. in fact, ive nearly eliminated it all... the protein powder being the one last hurdle. i just found a "protein powder" that is just dried egg whites and has 24 grams of protein per 100 calories. while it has of course been processed to become dried, there are no other ingredients... just egg.... that sounds legit, although i have a feeling that the taste may not be as pleasant as my vanilla cream Optimum Nutrition Pro Complex.
  • vindog

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    Oct 09, 2009 5:23 PM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidhere is an egg protein without artificial sweeteners:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/mrm/eggwhite.html All Natural Egg White Protein contains at least 23 grams of protein per serving and NO artificial flavors, colors, or sweeteners. This state-of-the-art formula uses all natural flavoring and is free of any dairy products.

    There is also rice protein:
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/source/brownrice.html




    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT>.....been looking for something w/o art sweeteners.


    Now if Cytomax would get the clue and switch from Aspartame to Stevia....I'd be happy cuz I'm stopping using it after I'm out.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 09, 2009 5:28 PM GMT
    Mix whey protein with Almond Milk!! Good stuff
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    Oct 09, 2009 5:37 PM GMT
    I've been doing a lot of experimenting with my diet due to stomach issues. Dairy has always been problematic for me. Since I quit dairy (with the exception of a little butter every now and then and homemade yogurt), my skin has gotten much better, my digestion is better, and my allergy and sinus problems have gone away (this coming from someone who was on antibiotics routinely for sinus infections).

    I don't think milk is necessarily BAD for you, but some people definitely have trouble digesting it and the modern dairy industry is pretty awful. When I buy milk for making yogurt, I buy from a small local farm and only buy non-homogenized milk. The following book may be of interest:

    http://www.amazon.com/Untold-Story-Milk-Pastures-Contented/dp/0967089743/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255109480&sr=8-1

    The following article details why some people believe homogenized milk is bad:

    http://www.authorsden.com/categories/article_top.asp?catid=16&id=18866

    Makes a lot of sense to me. Every non-western trained doctor I've ever seen has urged me NOT to drink homogenized milk for the reasons stated above. Also, concerning soy (which is REALLY bad), check this out:

    http://www.amazon.com/Whole-Soy-Story-Americas-Favorite/dp/0967089751/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255109658&sr=1-1

    As for protein powder, have you tried hemp?

    http://nutiva.com/products/0_protein.php

    Also, there are many protein powders out there that are milk based, but have no lactose, etc. Maybe it's just a matter of finding the right one? Personally, I'm done with processed foods, supplements, powders, etc. I'd rather spend a little extra time in the kitchen making a bigger pot of something, grilling some extra pieces of chicken and storing them in the fridge, hard boiling some eggs, etc.