President Barack Obama wins the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

  • NickoftheNort...

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    Oct 09, 2009 9:09 AM GMT
    It's official: President of the United States Barack Obama will receive the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

    Source: Aftenposten
    English-language source: visit Oslo
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    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    [edit: found English-language source]
  • Anto

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    Oct 09, 2009 9:26 AM GMT
    For what? Bridging the gap between separate but equal for gays?
  • NickoftheNort...

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    Oct 09, 2009 10:44 AM GMT
    The official reason is that President Obama has worked extraordinarily for the improvement of international dialogue and peaceful cooperation and for the disarmament of nuclear weapons.

    My own suspicions: the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee is being opportunistic, taking advantage of Obama's popularity to increase its own popular relevancy (at the cost of its credibility). Bestowing on him at this point is unfortunate because it begs the question "What has he done to earn it?" In doing so, it heaps on our generalized Obama fatigue and taints his prize for years to come (even if he reinvigorates the US, successfully campaigns for the Equal Rights Amendment, and guarantees equal rights and health insurance for all [though if all those come to pass, his prize will be of minimal consideration]; and if he does none or little of that, it becomes a farce).
  • Anto

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    Oct 09, 2009 10:55 AM GMT
    Yeah it does feel really strange and out of place.
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 09, 2009 11:27 AM GMT
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    I'd like to nominate my two nephews born this past summer for next years Peace Prize. They obviously have the qualifications.

    Jimmah must be shitting himself. "It least I finished a term, and spend 25 years acting as official foot washer of every dictator I could find."
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:29 AM GMT
    Well I'm delighted. Might give President Obama more influence at home and abroad to get things done. Will make his full-time critics, who admit they simply want him to fail no matter what (including many here on RJ), look even smaller and more petty than they already are.

    RJ sidenote: I posted this story myself from MSNBC in a thread, and then saw this had been time stamped as posted about 20 minutes earlier here. I swear it wasn't here when I went to post, which only took me 1 minute to do. My thread's now deleted, but here's that MSNBC item anyway:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33237202/ns/politics-white_house/
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 09, 2009 11:35 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa saidWell I'm delighted. Might give President Obama more influence at home and abroad. Will make his full-time critics (including many here on RJ) look even smaller and more petty than they already are.

    RJ sidenote: I posted this story myself from MSNBC in a thread, and then saw this had been time stamped as posted about 20 minutes earlier here. I swear it wasn't here when I went to post, which only took me 1 minute to do. My thread's now erased, but here's that MSNBC item anyway:




    Coupled with Jimmah's Award it may have only a diminishing effect on the status of the Peace Prize. Hopefully it will not tarnishing other Nobel Awards.

    As far as trying to influence the Future with the award, it really improved Middle East Peace with the 1978 Award to Begin and Sadat. Let's pray that it turns our better this time.
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:39 AM GMT
    NickoftheNorth said
    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    How did you vote for him in last year's presidential election...you're from Norway.
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:41 AM GMT
    umm.... WHAT?!

    but then, that prize was tainted when Henry Kissinger won in 1973, the same year he helped overthrow Allende in Chile and put in the brutal dictator, Pinochet.


    "peace"
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:43 AM GMT
    Draoiocht said
    NickoftheNorth said
    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    How did you vote for him in last year's presidential election...you're from Norway.

    Born in Houston :-) Dual-citizen.
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:44 AM GMT
    NickoftheNorth said
    Draoiocht said
    NickoftheNorth said
    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    How did you vote for him in last year's presidential election...you're from Norway.

    Born in Houston :-) Dual-citizen.


    Ah, thanks. I didn't know that.icon_redface.gif ...electoral vote? bleh, ok, thanks again!
  • Koaa2

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    Oct 09, 2009 11:46 AM GMT
    I think he deserves it, he has done more to improve international relationships in 9 months, than Bush did in 8 years!

    Congratulations, feels so good to have an intelligent leader and administration.
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    Oct 09, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]NickoftheNorth said[/cite] My own suspicions: the Norwegian Nobel Prize Committee is being opportunistic, taking advantage of Obama's popularity to increase its own popular relevancy (at the cost of its credibility). Bestowing on him at this point is unfortunate because it begs the question "What has he done to earn it?" [?quote]

    Agreed. Previous winners of the Peace Prize have earned it with a long record of accomplishment. You might disagree with some of the recipients (e.g., Yasser Arafat and Jimmy Carter) but at least they spent years doing something.This is the first time the Prize has been bestowed on somebody just for being fabulous.
    They might as well give it to Oprah next.
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:01 PM GMT
    NickoftheNorth saidIt's official: President of the United States Barack Obama will receive the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize.

    Source: Aftenposten
    English-language source: visit Oslo
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    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    [edit: found English-language source]


    Back to the question: I support Obama, but I think this is a bit early.

    "Rather than recognizing concrete achievement, the 2009 prize appeared intended to support initiatives that have YET to bear fruit: reducing the world stock of nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthening the U.S. role in combating climate change."

    Obama has a bit more on his bandwagon now icon_eek.gif

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33237202/ns/politics-white_house/
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:11 PM GMT


    I think they've done him no favors. It will be the next tool tool used to criticize him. And I think it weakens the impact of the prize itself to award it to someone who has so much still to achieve.

    If he has 7 solid years of overwhelming achievement, and he's already won this, then how will he be recognized? Same can be said if he spends the next 3 years blowing it.
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:24 PM GMT
    GFORCE said

    I think they've done him no favors. It will be the next tool tool used to criticize him. And I think it weakens the impact of the prize itself to award it to someone who has so much still to achieve.

    If he has 7 solid years of overwhelming achievement, and he's already won this, then how will he be recognized? Same can be said if he spends the next 3 years blowing it.


    Really Good Point. Of course if he does manage to have a successful 8 year run, he almost certainly will be named Emperor of the World for Life by the UN,
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:25 PM GMT
    Aquanerd said
    GFORCE said

    I think they've done him no favors. It will be the next tool tool used to criticize him. And I think it weakens the impact of the prize itself to award it to someone who has so much still to achieve.

    If he has 7 solid years of overwhelming achievement, and he's already won this, then how will he be recognized? Same can be said if he spends the next 3 years blowing it.


    Really Good Point. Of course if he does manage to have a successful 8 year run, he almost certainly will be named Emperor of the World for Life by the UN,


    LOL! That's all?!!!
  • Timbales

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    Oct 09, 2009 12:35 PM GMT
    The deadline for this year's nominees was Feb 1. He wasn't even in office a month before he got nominated? That is premature at best.
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:35 PM GMT
    Good for him!
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    Oct 09, 2009 12:44 PM GMT
    G-Force-

    The president could spend the next four fours screwing things upon "God" knows we never had a sitting president do that before.

    You know just maybe within the next three years, he gets things right!
    That's a novel idea isn't?

    Unless you can see into the future...no one knows what the next three years are going to be like.

    I would that the men and women who vote in Norway knows what they are doing they been doing it for quite a while unlike any of us.

    I personally do not feel that the president winning this award will over-shadow the enormous amount of work that is left to be done both domestically and internationally.

    It's not uncommon for this to happen if you Google the history of Nobel Peace Prize recipients.

    I'm just sayin.
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:04 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    Draoiocht said
    NickoftheNorth said
    I voted for him in last year's Presidential elections, but damn...this seems pretty frickin' early!

    How did you vote for him in last year's presidential election...you're from Norway.

    Under the 1913 Treaty of Olaf, Norwegians are permitted to vote in U.S. elections.

    Well I know that's true in North Dakota, where members of the Norwegian Royal Family frequently come to visit their subjects. HRH The Crown Prince Haakon is particularly popular.

    His last visit was timed to include a side trip to neighboring Minnesota on Rose Nylund Day, where he was personally received by Betty White. In return, HRH bestowed upon her a special Order of Lutefisk, an honor that makes her stand apart from others to this day.
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:16 PM GMT

    DAYUM...you guys scooped us! LOL!


    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091009/world/eu_nobel_peace_1


    He's the fourth president in US history to achieve this.

    So, all critiques aside, Congratulations President Barack Obama!


    He joins the ranks of the Dalai Lama (probably spelled wrong, lol) who has done no more than being spiritual and promoting understanding.

    Please consider that this is a gesture of recognition of his current efforts.

    It's not an Olympic medal. icon_wink.gif

    -us two


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    Oct 09, 2009 1:18 PM GMT
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    The president could spend the next four fours screwing things upon "God" knows we never had a sitting president do that before.

    You know just maybe within the next three years, he gets things right!
    That's a novel idea isn't?

    Unless you can see into the future...no one knows what the next three years are going to be like.

    I would that the men and women who vote in Norway knows what they are doing they been doing it for quite a while unlike any of us.

    I personally do not feel that the president winning this award will over-shadow the enormous amount of work that is left to be done both domestically and internationally.

    It's not uncommon for this to happen if you Google the history of Nobel Peace Prize recipients.

    I'm just sayin.


    I'm not being pessimistic. I just know political fodder when I see it. This will be the next distraction more than something advantageous.

    Hopefully O will frame it in a way that puts it in the right perspective when he speaks to it today.
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
    Ridiculous
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    Oct 09, 2009 1:32 PM GMT
    He's basically being given the award for his rhetoric, having accomplished nothing beyond engagement with other nations in bilateral and multi-lateral settings. Kind of shocking, given that he's at least considering sending more troops to Afghanistan to escalate the war there.