Obama MAY make major gay rights announcement at tonight's HRC dinner

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    Oct 10, 2009 11:41 PM GMT
    Not to get our hopes up, but CNN reported he may do something tonight. Watch his whole speech LIVE on CNN at 8 pm EST.

    Let's see if we get a carrot to chew on for awhile.
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    Oct 11, 2009 12:33 AM GMT
    President Obama on Satuday told nation's largest gay rights group that his administration is "moving forward" with the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. "We should not be punishing patriotic Americans serving this country," Obama said.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:28 AM GMT
    Touching, well-written speech, as always. Somehow I don't see how he can continue to stand by his own personal opinion that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and then get rid of DOMA.

    I think that by continuing to be around GLBT people, whether at speeches like tonight, or bringing them to the White House, his own personal feelings will change.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:34 AM GMT
    Sounds like more talk.....just talk
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    Oct 11, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
    come on give him a break. i dont understand why people are acting like he is the worst president there is.....he is the first president to even set foot in a gay interest public meeting..believe in the man for gods sake.
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    Oct 11, 2009 2:26 AM GMT
    Less talk....more action! And this also goes for Carl Levin, Debbie Stabenow, and Gary Peters- my Senators and congressman.
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    Oct 11, 2009 2:42 AM GMT
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:00 AM GMT
    And interesting take.
    Other than DADT which a Democratic Congress should have sleep walked through the Oval office, No Change, Only Hope?

    CWCBI.
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
    tereseus1 saidcome on give him a break. i dont understand why people are acting like he is the worst president there is.....he is the first president to even set foot in a gay interest public meeting..believe in the man for gods sake.

    HEAR,HEAR,,
    I agree with you, some of you need to stop your fucking whining......
    I'm still waiting for my 40acres and a mule and you dont hear me bitching..
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:26 AM GMT
    Actually Bill Clinton spoke at an HRC dinner in 1997 as the president, but that shouldn't take away from what President Obama said tonight.
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    I liked what I heard in the speech so far
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Oh dear me...

    We do love to whine and bitch don't we?
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    Oct 11, 2009 9:40 AM GMT
    No deadline yet, but it's a start:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8301120.stm
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    Oct 11, 2009 11:01 AM GMT
    For political reasons, Obama doesn't want his fingerprints on anything that will actively help us, but he has made clear that he won't oppose anything Congress does. The President knows what side his bread is buttered on (churchgoing blacks and moderate whites), so he can't really be a "fierce advocate" and keep his support among white independents and socially conservative blacks...
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    Oct 11, 2009 11:34 AM GMT
    north_runner saidNo deadline yet, but it's a start:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8301120.stm


    You are correct - no timeline as of yet. It just seems if you don't put a stake in the ground or set the goal, it then becomes a simple matter of talk. Time will tell..icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 11, 2009 12:19 PM GMT
    Yes, what we need desperately right now is another speech from Obama.
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    Oct 11, 2009 12:56 PM GMT
    Some of you queens are such whiners. The President has more important things on his plate right now. Get over yourselves.
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    Oct 11, 2009 12:59 PM GMT
    TucsonGradJock saidSome of you queens are such whiners. The President has more important things on his plate right now. Get over yourselves.

    As Jon Stewart noted, the way to get something off your plate is to actually chow down.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
    For those people claiming the president has more important things to do, tell that to me and my other battle buddies in the military who are gay. Who go out and do what every other straight soldier does in cognito, not being acknowledged for what and who we are. Not qualifying for the spouse benefits that straight men do. Its an extreme double standard that should not exist in a profession where everyone's doing the same amount of work and putting their lives on the line.

    The majority of heterosexual soldiers these days don't even give a fuck about homosexuality. And even if they did, sure as hell wouldn't quit their jobs on account of they probably couldn't afford to even if they wanted too.

    It may not be important to you, but its important to me.


    and foras obama's administration, All I have to say is put your money where your mouth is is all I have to say. Because otherwise its just a bunch of meaningless talk.

    I'm willing to do my part to help, but somebody's gotta meet us halfway.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:34 PM GMT
    You got it halfstep. Unfortunately, too many gay men and women say it doesn't matter and in their minds turn that into justification for remaining closeted. Watch "Outrage". There's a brilliant part in there that explains that some see staying closeted as a sign of being tough. There's such a twisted pretzeling of logic it defies all imagination.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:42 PM GMT
    Halfstep saidFor those people claiming the president has more important things to do, tell that to me and my other battle buddies in the military who are gay. Who go out and do what every other straight soldier does in cognito, not being acknowledged for what and who we are. Not qualifying for the spouse benefits that straight men do. Its an extreme double standard that should not exist in a profession where everyone's doing the same amount of work and putting their lives on the line.

    The majority of heterosexual soldiers these days don't even give a fuck about homosexuality. And even if they did, sure as hell wouldn't quit their jobs on account of they probably couldn't afford to even if they wanted too.

    It may not be important to you, but its important to me.


    and foras obama's administration, All I have to say is put your money where your mouth is is all I have to say. Because otherwise its just a bunch of meaningless talk.


    I hear you and agree.......it's time. And I applaud you and your brothers and sisters in arms for persevering under those conditions.

    For those who say wait, there's more pressing issues, et cetera, ad nauseum, maybe you should read Dr. King's letter from the Birmingham jail. Different civil rights efforts but words that still speak to me from April 16, 1963:

    ".....We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was "well timed" in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word "Wait!" It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This "Wait" has almost always meant "Never." We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that "justice too long delayed is justice denied......"
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    Oct 11, 2009 2:33 PM GMT
    Notice, he carefully does not say marriage....

    Part 1 (for completeness....I know it's above.)


    Part 2


    Part 3


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    Oct 11, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
    Halfstep saidFor those people claiming the president has more important things to do, tell that to me and my other battle buddies in the military who are gay. Who go out and do what every other straight soldier does in cognito, not being acknowledged for what and who we are. Not qualifying for the spouse benefits that straight men do. Its an extreme double standard that should not exist in a profession where everyone's doing the same amount of work and putting their lives on the line.

    The majority of heterosexual soldiers these days don't even give a fuck about homosexuality. And even if they did, sure as hell wouldn't quit their jobs on account of they probably couldn't afford to even if they wanted too.

    It may not be important to you, but its important to me.


    and foras obama's administration, All I have to say is put your money where your mouth is is all I have to say. Because otherwise its just a bunch of meaningless talk.

    I'm willing to do my part to help, but somebody's gotta meet us halfway.


    I could not agree more. We keep hearing about protecting human rights of the people where we are fighting these wars. And yes they do deserve their human rights, but we also deserve ours. I'm not going to stop bitching and complaining until we all have them. We have to act now and keep up the pressure because who knows what congress will look like in 2010. I've voted for Democrats since I was old enough to start voting, except for a few times when I liked some liberal offbeat third party candidate. I don't know what I was thinking then. I must have been playing fantasy politics. I just know I'm a Democrat and I think I've given the party enough of my support to be able to bitch when they are not moving fast enough or doing the right thing.
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    Oct 11, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    Wasnt it Obama who told McCain that a president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time. ....and it's not like he has to type the reports etc......he has staff to impliment the decision .... icon_rolleyes.gif