HRC Dinner: Obama repealing DADT -- but when?

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    Oct 11, 2009 7:23 AM GMT
    So at last night's HRC Dinner (on the eve of the National Equality March), Obama addresses the gay community by reaffirming his promise that we will be repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell".

    I'm not sure whether I feel any better off than before. I mean, he's promised this and other protections before, but he still has yet to mention any sort of time frame.

    Also, funny to note the HRC had Obama open for Lady Gaga . .
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    Oct 11, 2009 10:02 AM GMT
    From an AP story:

    "We have never had a stronger ally in the White House. Never," Joe Solmonese, the [HRC's] president, said at the dinner before Obama spoke. In an interview, he said the Obama administration has been working with the group on a range of issues "on an almost weekly and sometimes daily basis."


    Obama also said that Congress should repeal DOMA, and that he would sign the pending bill containing the hate-crimes act recently passed by the House (and now before the Senate).

    All well and good, but throughout the AP story, there is skepticism over Obama's past promises to the GLBT community, that have come to little. Even Obama had to admit and apologize for the slow pace.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33255971/ns/politics-white_house//
  • GQjock

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    Oct 11, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
    I think that the repeal of DADT has to come from Congress
    Though I do think that he can facilitate the effort
    I don't think that the WH has the power in this case to undo it alone
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    Oct 11, 2009 12:57 PM GMT
    Skotlake said Also, funny to note the HRC had Obama open for Lady Gaga . .

    At least Lady GaGa delivers.
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    Oct 11, 2009 1:58 PM GMT
    TexDef07 said
    Skotlake said Also, funny to note the HRC had Obama open for Lady Gaga . .

    At least Lady GaGa delivers.


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    Oct 11, 2009 2:31 PM GMT

    The Good:
    I think we're all in better shape with O than we would have been with any of our other options.


    The Bad:
    If he'd be a more definitive vocal advocate he could set the tone with the rest of Washington and move the agenda forward more quickly. But he won't.

    and The Ugly:
    He's the President and a politician. As the President, he has to represent everyone in the country at once. And as a politician, he has to protect his own ass or he's out. Like it or not, that's just the way it is.


    Reality Check:
    As with the march today we, the gay community, are going to create our own destiny. No one is going to come and hand it to us, we're going to claim it! And when we do, Obama will not stand in the way. Others would have.
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    Oct 11, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
    Miasma said
    TexDef07 said
    Skotlake said Also, funny to note the HRC had Obama open for Lady Gaga . .

    At least Lady GaGa delivers.


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    Somehow the vocals here seem a lot like the original.

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    Oct 11, 2009 6:02 PM GMT
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33262101#33262101

    Every member of the GLBT community should watch the video. And then they should get off their lazy, entitled asses and start working to make the changes we want to happen instead of complaining that Obama isn't solving all of our problems for us, just the way we complained that Clinton didn't solve all of our problems for us.

    America just doesn't work that way. Never has, never will.
  • calibro

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    Oct 11, 2009 6:21 PM GMT
    all this talk about needing to come from congress seems to neglect that he has the power to suspend the process if he wanted. also, he keeps talking about need to deal with the economy and wars first, but doesn't seem to get having more soldiers in the military and not spending money on their dismissal would benefit those issues.
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    Oct 11, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    badmikeyt saidhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/33262101#33262101

    Every member of the GLBT community should watch the video. And then they should get off their lazy, entitled asses and start working to make the changes we want to happen instead of complaining that Obama isn't solving all of our problems for us, just the way we complained that Clinton didn't solve all of our problems for us.

    America just doesn't work that way. Never has, never will.


    So, what you're saying is that anyone who "complains" is incapable of working for change? pssst, you know, some of us are (and have been) working to make these changes. I tend to think the GLBT activists that are putting themselves on the front lines are people like those on RJ that speak up and voice their opinions on how disappointed they are with Obama's inaction and lack of follow through, while the complacent ones are those blindly accepting Obama as our lord and savior. So do me a favor, and don't lump us all into one convenient bubble that you and your ilk like to burst in order to appear more politically aware and/or active than you actually are.

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    Oct 11, 2009 7:35 PM GMT
    I agree with Tapper. There are a lot us out there complaining, bitching, and contacting our Senators and Congressmen. If you've watched CNN or MSNBC lately you see people out there making our case. Dan Savage and others were on CNN just last night.





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    Oct 11, 2009 7:36 PM GMT


    He has the repeal of DADT on the schedule.

    Hell is scheduled to freeze over with 2 feet of ice on October 13, 2021.

    While in Kenya last our President had a Witch Doctor cast a hex on him such that he will be reincarnated in 2018 in adult form so he can be elected President again in 2020.

  • Webster666

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    Oct 12, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
    If he wants to be re-elected, he won't make it happen until after election day, 2012.
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    Oct 12, 2009 1:17 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidIf he wants to be re-elected, he won't make it happen until after election day, 2012.


    That is becoming less true every day. Polling data has shown a majority of Americans, including military families have supported a repeal of DADT for almost a decade (old polling data is hard to find). While marriage equality will always be a talking point for the batshit insane wing of the GOP, DADT just doesn't have the same traction.

    Perhaps when he signs hate crime legislation and knocks out DADT it will become a potent combination, but I would much rather risk the support of a few bigot Dems than the fund raising potential of the GLBT community by doing nothing.
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    Oct 12, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
    Who cares about DADT? That's a bone he can throw that will cost him nothing and have little value for most of us.

    Repealing DOMA, as he promised, would actually be something useful. Funny how that has been so conveniently forgotten.

    Don't expect much. This is the same guy who as a candidate for many months refused to be interviewed by the gay press.



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    Oct 12, 2009 5:51 PM GMT
    peterstrong said
    historically speaking ending DADT is the most important next step - blacks were integrated with full equal rights into the military first in the fifties - before they got civil rights on the streets in the 60's


    Yeah, send them off to be killed first, and then maybe give them civil rights after a decade or two.

    Am I the only one who doesn't get it?