Just being critical or rude and out of line??

  • TSG4

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    Oct 11, 2009 3:02 PM GMT
    So, this guy is on X Factor which is like American Idol in the UK... and he's apparently bisexual....

    At 2:50, is the judge out of line? I thought it was terribly rude....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IOyPX-P57Q
  • TSG4

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    Oct 11, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    Oh.... and PS... I love Simon.
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    Oct 11, 2009 3:18 PM GMT
    is this it?
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    Did she just out him...?

    outstanding job and Simon was nice for a change.
  • TSG4

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    Oct 11, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    Yep, thats the video.... she didn't out him.. he already spoke up about it... i just though what she said was rude.
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    Oct 11, 2009 6:47 PM GMT
    Yeah, that was a poor attempt by Danni Minogue to be witty. It was rude (but not that offensive), and I think she realized it half way through saying it.
  • calibro

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    Oct 11, 2009 6:49 PM GMT
    actually, i think you're misinterpreting what she said. he clearly has come out as bisexual, and he was singing a song originally performed by a woman for a man. she simply was saying there was no need to reverse the gender pronouns. if anything, she was advocating he be honest with his sexuality on the show... regardless of how untactful it may have come across.
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    Oct 11, 2009 7:05 PM GMT
    calibro saidactually, i think you're misinterpreting what she said. he clearly has come out as bisexual, and he was singing a song originally performed by a woman for a man. she simply was saying there was no need to reverse the gender pronouns. if anything, she was advocating he be honest with his sexuality on the show... regardless of how untactful it may have come across.


    Yeah, but it's kinda rude to bring up someone's sexuality unsolicited on a nationally broadcast program.

    Furthermore, he is still being true to his sexuality by changing the pronouns.
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    Oct 11, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    WOW. Great performance. It shouldn't matter what kind of song a person is singing. If they can sing it and make it sound good or even better then the original then kudos. The point of the show is about talent, not gender, sexual preference, religious views or any of that stuff. just talent. Lots of woman sing men songs. Why then can't it be reversed?

    I think she was way out of line with her comment. The song can be sung by a man or woman if one were to listen to the words. They don't distinguish between gender. It just so happens that a woman originally sang that song so it's stuck in the minds of many that only a woman could sing it and then to add to the fact that he's bi when she made the comment about the newspaper on national tv. Come on. Lack of tact at it's finest.

    Could've done without the cockiness/over confident remark as well. It's a competition for crying out loud. So he might be a little over the top in attitude but he's putting his best foot forward and they clearly recognize that so there's no need to point out his personality either.
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    Oct 11, 2009 8:41 PM GMT
    Well, well, well . . . "we" had heard about something broadcast on the UK "X Factor" show but hadn't seen it yet due to travel schedules. Funny thing I'd see it here on RealJock before I got to my office tomorrow.

    This young man is very interesting and has the pipes. There's no disputing that whatsoever - and, more interesting that this particular song was selected by Cowell (who rarely missteps in the music industry). This young man will have a strong music career.

    Now, for the so-called judges: who are these misfits? Judge #1 is a bloody moron: you judge on the vocals nothing else. Judge #2 is an imbecile: whoever she is and should be fired for her complete and utter inappropriate/rude/offensive comments which had, again, nothing to do w/ his vocals. Judge #3 is a daft wit: obviously can't think for herself...'nough said. Judge #4 is the only Judge you need, period. Thank goodness Simon rose to his defense...that was classy.

    Ed.Note: the producers should fire Judge #2 before a tital wave of bad PR consumes that show.



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    Oct 11, 2009 11:03 PM GMT
    Apparently it was meant to be a joke between her and the contestant, because they joke about it behind the scenes. However, as everyone else doesnt know the joke, it didnt come across well.

    It wasnt an attempt to out him. He's openly bisexual.
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    Oct 11, 2009 11:17 PM GMT
    She's a Bitch, his composure w/ awesome! Had it been me she would have gotten a tongue lashing!
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 12, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
    The only time her comment would have been acceptable was if it were a cock sucking contest. If she was making an attempt at humor, she obviously failed.
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    Oct 12, 2009 12:20 AM GMT
    aww.. simons a nice guy after all.
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    Oct 12, 2009 12:26 AM GMT
    She must have to do what she can to get attention. It's probably difficult being the lesser known Minogue sister.
  • Webster666

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    Oct 12, 2009 12:51 AM GMT
    I don't understand how anyone could criticize that performance.
    I thought he was phenomenally talented, and great looking, too.
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    Oct 12, 2009 2:12 AM GMT
    To me, coming out as bisexual in a newspaper article (and no doubt making a few quid out of it) and then to edit the lyrics of your choice of song as Danii rightly pointed out, he didn't need to, seems like censorship. It kind of reminds me of the unfortunately all too common opinion of "I don't care if he's gay as long as I don't have it rubbed in my face."

    I know that is often intended by straight people as an expression of their open mindedness, but to me it always seems like an indication that any form of homosexual relationship needs to be conducted entirely behind closed doors. Comments I have read in articles about this incident claim it was inappropriate for a family show. I just don't see how that is true. Unless we are to believe homosexuality is an unsuitable topic for children. I personally don't, gay couples should and in many places are allowed to adopt for instance.

    It's an interesting situation, because at no point is Dannii slurring gays like the newspapers have alleged she is. But hey, you gotta sell papers one way or another right? If anything, since we have already had a successful and (relatively) long standing openly gay reality TV star in Will Young, her comments came across as more of a criticism of a backwards step. At least to me. You can argue until the cows come home that she had no right to bring it up, but it was Danyl himself who chose to do that in direct reference to his 15 minutes of fame, through the interview he sold to the press.

    If the show had not acknowledged this after he had brought it the attention of the public eye, doesn't that send out a worse message overall than anything Dannii said?

    Sorry for the long ramble. Wow, did not think my first post here would be about Xfactor of all things, haha.
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    Oct 12, 2009 4:50 AM GMT
    Rude and out of line.

    I don't see what making creative decisions has to do with what we read in the tabloids about someone's personal life.
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    Oct 12, 2009 5:07 AM GMT
    She made herself look like a half-wit - - desperately trying to make a little joke at the poor guy's expense. What a bitch. The first guy was not much better - and the other girl was just gravy training the first guy's crack about over confidence. The guy was not showing arrogance or over confidence, IMO. He was fine..........two suggestions though..........grip the mike so the fingers don't hide part of his face in close ups - and he deserves better clothes. His hair looked great and his stage presence - eye contact with the audience is great as well.
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    Oct 12, 2009 5:09 AM GMT
    Wow... What a bitch!!!
    She was definitely out of line. How does anything she say come into play anyway?!?! It's a show about talent and about passion, nothing she said had anything to do with criticizing his singing . And he has every right to be cocky, yeah he might be overdoing it, but he has a talent and he knows it. It's called confidence. "If you got it, flaunt it."
  • adidas0783

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    Jan 28, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
    TSG4 saidSo, this guy is on X Factor which is like American Idol in the UK... and he's apparently bisexual....

    At 2:50, is the judge out of line? I thought it was terribly rude....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IOyPX-P57Q


    She did come across as a bitch. Regardless, if he is out or not no one needs to broadcast it.
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    Jan 28, 2010 7:46 PM GMT
    She did make herself sound like a cunt.
  • Timbales

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    Jan 28, 2010 7:47 PM GMT
    well, it's Dannii. She's not that bright and the plastic surgery has left her face a practically motionless bitch mask
  • drypin

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    Jan 28, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    Oh, please... the whole show is about saying something controversial. If one judge doesn't do it, another one does.
  • WILDCARD73

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    Jan 28, 2010 8:14 PM GMT
    danii minogue is such a bitch
    lol

    he is so adorable,,,,,,,,
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    Jan 28, 2010 8:17 PM GMT
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    calibro saidactually, i think you're misinterpreting what she said. he clearly has come out as bisexual, and he was singing a song originally performed by a woman for a man. she simply was saying there was no need to reverse the gender pronouns. if anything, she was advocating he be honest with his sexuality on the show... regardless of how untactful it may have come across.


    Yeah, but it's kinda rude to bring up someone's sexuality unsolicited on a nationally broadcast program.

    Furthermore, he is still being true to his sexuality by changing the pronouns.


    I'm sorry I disagree, if he had already made a point about his sexuality on stage, and I don't see the relevance of why he would of done that anyway. Then he had already opened the door for comment of the topic at hand. Now if it was commion knowledge behind stage, and not on, and then some-one was to touch on the topic of his sexuality, then he has been outed and the comment could be seen as out of place. But If I was on stage and was clear I'm a fag, a pure homosexual, it would not be wrong for a judge to asked to I have a boyfriend or husband; now would it.

    But did not an American judge on American Idol out that twink, last year?

    But gees with so many gays and lesbians still feel a need to shove their sexuality down peoples throtes buy being way out there and having big coming out parties. How can homosexuals and lesbians expect homosexuality to be put in the hall of fame of political correctness, where no-one ca comment on it. It's way to late to try to put the Genni back in the bottle. If some-one is out and open about their sexuality, it's not wrong for another to comment on it.