How many of you guys are vegetarian or vegan?

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    Oct 12, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    If you're not please don't bother contributing to the thred.icon_wink.gif I just want to get anidea of how everyone (vegetarian and vegan) copes with protein and bulking up. I'm 95 percent vegan except for whey protein in my shake. icon_redface.gif
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
    theantijock saidLacto-ovo-vegetarian here--for over 10 years now--who eats small amount of fish so protein is not a problem. I eat lots of nuts, whey protein shakes of course, cheeses (that alone would keep me from veganism), free range eggs, etc. Don't miss not eating meat at all, well, except at barbecues which I avoid. It still smells good.

    I avoid geletan capsules but sometimes that seems impossible so I don't freak out about it. I also don't freak out if I've found something I ate at a restaurant or someone's home had some meat broth in it or whatever but I don't cook like that on my own. I do take Omega 3 supplements which is a fish product. I tried flaxseed oil instead but can't stand the taste.

    I'm not a vegan as I don't believe I can stop suffering, but I am a vegetarian in part so as to reduce suffering and my impact here.


    Theanitjock summed up my diet/beliefs almost exactly! I'm trying to cut down on fish because of impact on the oceans, but have been doing the Nutrition4You program recently to boost my protein to acceptable levels, using vegetarian options.

    15 years vegetarian and don't miss meat at all - too much processing by profit-driven companies (at the expense of our health and animal welfare.) And, it just makes me sad to see under-educated, obese people eating fast-food that's targeted towards them.
  • Celticmusl

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    Oct 14, 2009 2:29 AM GMT
    Lacto ovo vegetarian icon_wink.gif I eat lots of eggs. A combination of rice and beans are considered a perfect protein as well. I do supplement with RTD drinks like Muscle Milk.

    I do not eat meat which includes fish, since 1993(the year where there was mad cow disease and children dying from eating Jack In The Box undercooked hamburgers).
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    i have always wondered about this...as a new vegan restaurant opened up in my area of williamsburg...Never went in as its just too green....meaning i didnt see any meat lol...Like is it possible to stay full on vegan meals? please tell me more about it...as i saw guys saying what type they are on.
  • metta

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    Oct 14, 2009 2:53 AM GMT
    I have been lacto ovo vegetarian since 1990. I feel like I get pleanty of protein by eating a variety of foods. I do use protein shakes as well, but not as a primary protein source. Living in California, it is very easy to do.

    However, I'm not sure about 'bulking up.' I have never attempted to 'bulk up'. I do workout regularly (it is almost a wonderful addiction icon_wink.gif ) but I don't want to get huge. I don't want to have to have all my clothes custom tailored or have to wear clothes that don't fit properly.
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    Oct 14, 2009 3:39 AM GMT
    I am Pesco-Vegetarian which I have found works best for me. I do still eat eggs and stay pretty light on the cheese but no milk. I eat beans and rice all the time as well. The combined amino acids (From beans and rice) that form the protein our bodies need are the same as you would get from meat however it is not going to be as plentiful. For lifting complimenting is going to be the best bet. icon_cool.gif

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler30.htm
    http://ksteveh.tripod.com/protein.html

    On a side note:
    One of my favorite things to use are morning star brand basil tomato veggie burger in place of meat in some meal. Love it with a good tomato sauce over spaghetti or in a lasagna.
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    Oct 14, 2009 4:21 AM GMT
    Vegetarian for almost 24 years. I've recently realized that I have a strong sulfur sensitivity, so that's why I've never been able to eat eggs as the primary ingredient in things (e.g. no quiche, but I can manage custard). I also follow the Nutrition for You plan, so I've upped my protein and tend to get it through mock meats, protein shakes, and cottage cheese. It's working for me.

    Just started dating a vegan who's got gluten sensitivities, so it's really surprising that his diet is more restrictive than mine!
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    Oct 14, 2009 9:55 AM GMT
    Thanks guys, appreciate the candid and honest feedback. I'm pleased to see there are some more people out there whio think of these things........icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 14, 2009 10:06 AM GMT
    I'm a Lacto Ovo Vegetarian. I do it for ethical reasons only. (By the way fish is a living creature. If you claim to be a Vegetarian for ethical reasons, yet eat fish, then you are a bloody hypocrite! icon_mad.gif )
    You may find all of your protein requirements in vegetables, beans, nuts, and grains. Quinoa..(spelling?) is a fantastic source.
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    Oct 14, 2009 11:04 AM GMT
    I do dairy, occasional poultry and fish. Take protein shakes daily, drink lots of soy milk and eat vegie burgers. Never eat anything with hoofs.
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    Oct 14, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
    Ovo-lacto veghead here for almost six years. As far as protein consumption, I do fine by eating a variety of foods supplemented by the occasional protein shake. As a side note, most Americans get too much protein and not enough essential vitamins and minerals.
  • troy_par

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    Oct 14, 2009 5:39 PM GMT
    Ovo-lacto veggie here, as well. I have been for 12 years. Lots of nuts, legumes and dairy help with protein.
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    Oct 14, 2009 8:09 PM GMT
    i'm semi vegetarian.

    i still eat chicken like once a week. And fish once or twice a week.

    I love milk and eggs.

    i tried lacto-ovo , eliminating all "flesh" from my diet, but i'm lazy so i ended up eating pasta , peanut butter or boiled eggs all the time...terrible diet.

    i have issues with beans but i always wondered if farting would improve my running times.


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  • Anto

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    Oct 14, 2009 8:55 PM GMT
    Musclequest saidI'm a Lacto Ovo Vegetarian. I do it for ethical reasons only. (By the way fish is a living creature. If you claim to be a Vegetarian for ethical reasons, yet eat fish, then you are a bloody hypocrite!


    Plants are living things too!.. icon_mad.gif
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    Oct 14, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
    vegetarian here,

    really ppl it's not THAT hard to get some protein in your food (unless you're vegan i suppose.. that can make things a BIT tougher)

    i actually get MORE nutrition now as a veg than i did as a carnivore - forces you to look into your food and what's actually IN IT.
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    Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    Anto said
    Musclequest saidI'm a Lacto Ovo Vegetarian. I do it for ethical reasons only. (By the way fish is a living creature. If you claim to be a Vegetarian for ethical reasons, yet eat fish, then you are a bloody hypocrite!


    Plants are living things too!.. icon_mad.gif


    i believe the way it works is - "If it has a face, i won't eat it" icon_razz.gif

    i'm NOT vegetarian for ethical reasons (well.. that's a lie i suppose, i didn't TURN because of moral obligations to animals though, i have no problem with ppl eating meat - it's other much more evil factors in my opinion)

    @Musclequest - they call them "philosophically inconsistent vegetarians" icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 16, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    My BF became vegetarian 4 years ago to lower his cholesterol. I became one to be supportive and because he does 95% of the cooking.

    We're big fans of all the meat substitutes, especially ones containing wheat gluten, moreso because they are microwave-convenient....and less because they mimic actual meat.

    When time allows we'll cook dry beans...or for quickness, open a can. I love ALL beans.

    I eat more cheese than he does and milk in every form, especially Spiced Chai teas or coffee lattes.

    Protein hasn't been an issue for me BUT then again, I often take amino supplements. The BF hates supplements and his doctor advised him to eat fish once a week.

    My continuing reason for embracing Vege eating is because I want to contribute less and less to our environments destruction due to meat production.
  • Celticmusl

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    Oct 16, 2009 6:35 PM GMT
    Anto said
    Musclequest saidI'm a Lacto Ovo Vegetarian. I do it for ethical reasons only. (By the way fish is a living creature. If you claim to be a Vegetarian for ethical reasons, yet eat fish, then you are a bloody hypocrite!


    Plants are living things too!.. icon_mad.gif



    They are not a hypocrite, they are just using the term "vegetarian" incorrectly. His diet is "mostly" vegetarian.


    It is hard to be a vegetarian or vegan and not be a hypocrite at some point, i.e. leather shoes, leather belts, gelatin capsules, buying dog food for the pup, eating Mcdonald's french fries(which I will never do again since I found out they use beef flavoring on the fries), eating Hostess Cupcakes, accepting leather gloves at Christmas because your sister forgot you were vegetarian, eating soup that you later found out had chicken broth although the waitress said it was vegetarian, buying a used car with leather seats, eating a pizza hut pizza because you had no idea they used pork stock in their sauce(now they have vegetarian choices), buying skin care lotion that has lanolin or God forbid, emu oil. I give my fellow vegans and vegetarians the benefit of the doubt that they are trying their best.

    Vegetarians are like beta fish, don't get two of them in the same room or they will tear each other apart. Please try to be more accepting and supportive of fellow vegetarians! (or quasi-vegetarians)
  • Anto

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    Oct 16, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
    I'm not anti-vegetarian, I just don't understand the philosophy of being ok with killing and abusing plants but not animals. Why the empathy towards animals but not plants?
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    Oct 16, 2009 7:08 PM GMT
    Celticmusl saidVegetarians are like beta fish, don't get two of them in the same room or they will tear each other apart. Please try to be more accepting and supportive of fellow vegetarians! (or quasi-vegetarians)


    You should come to a bar in Norfolk. With PETA headquatered here, the bars are full of vegetarian kids (not knocking it, many are my friends). It's kinda funny though to see all them drinking Stella Artois (which is not vegetarian) cause it's the new hipster PBR.
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    Oct 16, 2009 7:19 PM GMT
    Ganymede0 said
    Celticmusl saidVegetarians are like beta fish, don't get two of them in the same room or they will tear each other apart. Please try to be more accepting and supportive of fellow vegetarians! (or quasi-vegetarians)


    You should come to a bar in Norfolk. With PETA headquatered here, the bars are full of vegetarian kids (not knocking it, many are my friends). It's kinda funny though to see all them drinking Stella Artois (which is not vegetarian) cause it's the new hipster PBR.



    According to Veggiewines, Stella Artois is now vegetarian, although they used to use fish paste in the beer.....eek!


    http://www.veggiewines.co.uk/popularbeers.htm

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    Oct 16, 2009 7:31 PM GMT
    Celticmusl said
    Ganymede0 said
    Celticmusl saidVegetarians are like beta fish, don't get two of them in the same room or they will tear each other apart. Please try to be more accepting and supportive of fellow vegetarians! (or quasi-vegetarians)


    You should come to a bar in Norfolk. With PETA headquatered here, the bars are full of vegetarian kids (not knocking it, many are my friends). It's kinda funny though to see all them drinking Stella Artois (which is not vegetarian) cause it's the new hipster PBR.



    According to Veggiewines, Stella Artois is now vegetarian, although they used to use fish paste in the beer.....eek!


    http://www.veggiewines.co.uk/popularbeers.htm



    Did not know. Thanks for the tip.
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    Oct 16, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    Ganymede0 said
    Celticmusl said
    Ganymede0 said
    Celticmusl saidVegetarians are like beta fish, don't get two of them in the same room or they will tear each other apart. Please try to be more accepting and supportive of fellow vegetarians! (or quasi-vegetarians)


    You should come to a bar in Norfolk. With PETA headquatered here, the bars are full of vegetarian kids (not knocking it, many are my friends). It's kinda funny though to see all them drinking Stella Artois (which is not vegetarian) cause it's the new hipster PBR.



    According to Veggiewines, Stella Artois is now vegetarian, although they used to use fish paste in the beer.....eek!


    http://www.veggiewines.co.uk/popularbeers.htm



    Did not know. Thanks for the tip.


    Well you brought up a good point, I had no idea that beer could be non-vegetarian....quite an eye opener.
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    Oct 16, 2009 8:21 PM GMT
    DexterN saidHow many of you guys are vegetarian or vegan?


    Not one of us can accurately answer your question.
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    Oct 16, 2009 8:27 PM GMT
    Maybe a better question would be how many consider yourselves vegetarian

    I'm v3gitarian

    I rub meat all over my body, wear a sweater made of sausages, chew and taste it but don't swallow so it's okay icon_twisted.gif

    You lot just aren't enlightened yet