Does a FOX Network Bear Sh*t in the Woods?

  • GQjock

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    Oct 12, 2009 10:49 PM GMT
    White House: Fox News 'a wing of the Republican Party'

    BY Richard Sisk
    DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU

    Monday, October 12th 2009, 2:07 AM

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/10/12/2009-10-12_white_house_fox_news_is_gop_ally.html

    The White House called WhattheFox! News a wing of the republican party
    "Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party," said White House communications director Anita Dunn

    And people have the gaul or the stupidy to be Surprised? at her statement?
    Like we don't KNOW WhattheFOX is a shill station for the republicans?
    Just Who was it that touted everything that W and Cheney did during their reign?
    Where did those two boobs go when they wanted to lie to us?
    Who repeated those lies and then some for years?

    Who was it?
    They're More than an arm of the republican party .... they're setting their agenda
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    Oct 13, 2009 10:14 AM GMT
    The only surprise is that there are people out there who did not already know this, or who still do not believe it.
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    Oct 13, 2009 10:29 AM GMT
    It is a beautiful symbiotic relationship.

    The White House has a strategy to identify the Republican party with loonies and media hate mongers. This really works to marginalize the opposition.

    Murdoch loves it, of course, because people watch. Fox executives say that every time the White House calls them out their viewership goes up.

    President Clinton gave a speech I read a while ago. This was now a couple of months ago. He said that passing a bill, any bill, on health care would radically alter the landscape. Once people realize the world doesn't stop spinning he said the President's numbers would go through the roof. I am sure that President Clinton is right.

    The trick is to pass a bill, any bill at all. The content doesn't matter nearly as much as the gesture. If we passed the perfect bill today it would still be modified a thousand times in the next 20 years. However, once the core system is in place it is nearly impossible to reverse.

    I am very curious to see what the White House strategy actually is. They are hardly unaware that the left and the right are both against them.
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    Oct 13, 2009 10:42 AM GMT
    They are hardly unaware that the left and the right are both against them.

    But they've been oblivious to the fact that the republicans will not vote for this bill even if it came with its own blowjob on page 9
    Their attempts for bipartisanship and the compromises they've given them have only sought to make a much weaker and possibly ineffective bill
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    Oct 13, 2009 11:27 AM GMT
    The White House called WhattheFox! News a wing of the republican party
    "Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party," said White House communications director Anita Dunn

    And people have the gaul or the stupidy to be Surprised? at her statement?
    Like we don't KNOW WhattheFOX is a shill station for the republicans?



    And it was the Fox News Channel that sponsored the "Tea Parties". That entire concept was originated, advertised, and glorified by FNC.

    How stupid do they think Americans are?
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    Oct 13, 2009 12:21 PM GMT


    And it was the Fox News Channel that sponsored the "Tea Parties". That entire concept was originated, advertised, and glorified by FNC.

    How stupid do they think Americans are?[/quote]

    Considering how many people watch and believe what they put out? Pretty darned stupid. Watching the democratic party continually shoot itself in the foot is heartbreaking at best, and offers excellent opportunities for the right at worst. Since they yell the loudest and own a major media outlet, it's their headlines that connect with the nutjobs and uninformed.
  • Aquanerd

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    Oct 13, 2009 12:41 PM GMT
    UrsaMajor saidIt is a beautiful symbiotic relationship.

    The White House has a strategy to identify the Republican party with loonies and media hate mongers. This really works to marginalize the opposition.

    Murdoch loves it, of course, because people watch. Fox executives say that every time the White House calls them out their viewership goes up.

    President Clinton gave a speech I read a while ago. This was now a couple of months ago. He said that passing a bill, any bill, on health care would radically alter the landscape. Once people realize the world doesn't stop spinning he said the President's numbers would go through the roof. I am sure that President Clinton is right.

    The trick is to pass a bill, any bill at all. The content doesn't matter nearly as much as the gesture. If we passed the perfect bill today it would still be modified a thousand times in the next 20 years. However, once the core system is in place it is nearly impossible to reverse.

    I am very curious to see what the White House strategy actually is. They are hardly unaware that the left and the right are both against them.


    Clinton certainly practiced what he preaches. It seemed like he was in the Rose Garden for some bill or presidential edict at least one a month. It didn't matter what it was about, whether it was a funded or unfunded program. "He cared!" "And the people loved him for it." Especially pudgy, homely young women.
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    Oct 13, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
    Frank_AZ saidHow stupid do they think Americans are?

    I don't know their numbers, but their relative success shows that they're fairly accurate with their estimations.
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    Oct 13, 2009 1:55 PM GMT


    Waitaminnit....isn't this the same network that recently won a court ruling that they don't have to be accurate or even tell the truth?


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    Oct 13, 2009 3:35 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]meninlove said[/cite]

    Waitaminnit....isn't this the same network that recently won a court ruling that they don't have to be accurate or even tell the truth?


    The Wilson and Akre case ( case no. 2d01-529) isn't such a good case to use to highlight your point of view.
    As a livestock producer ,and member of a family that has produced livestock for generations, I Carefully followed the case from 1996-2003. The verdict in the apeals case was much more complicated than you and Wilson/Akre suggest( btw they were the first to post the "Fox wins right to lie" headline). Among other things it has been suggested that Wilson and Akre engineered a rift between themselves and WTVT-TV over the rBGH story and their refusal to provide supporting documentation for statements made in their story. At the same time they were brokering the story of their fight with fox to the "Weekly Planet" through John F. Sugg and Lynn Waddel, and breaking their agreements with WTVT (the archives at the 'Weekly Planet" should be able to shed more light on this part of the story). Most people never bothered to look farther than Steve Wilsons web posts and site before jumping on his "Fox wins right to lie" postings. Maybe you ment to call attention to a different Case?

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    Oct 13, 2009 3:53 PM GMT
    Oh my God. Did this thread really get started? CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC...completely run with liberal agendas to say the absolute least. And now you're telling me that Fox is "conservative"? I'd argue that they're the only ones to actually offer up both sides of an argument, instead of vehemently clinging to one stance. Where was the ACORN scandal on CNN or MSNBC, other than in attempts to mar the character of the undercover reporters? Just because Fox doesn't wholeheartedly promote the liberal agenda like everyone else doesn't mean they're an arm for the Republican party. It is merely the lone network that challenges the liberal agenda, and, true to form, the left has targeted its wasps at Fox to silence any attempts to defeat one voice. As always, you are going to believe what you want to believe, but honestly...a little critical thinking would go a long way.
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    Oct 13, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    Actually, Ted Turner started CNN to make money in the then new cable industry. NBC, ABS, and CBS started are actual new and entertainment networks but were soon gobbled up by corporations and used solely as revenue. Fox News was started by Roger Ailes and Newscorp specifically to have a conservative slant media in response to the PNAC plans of establishing right wing media control - first through radio, then cable, etc.

    Yes, the big old school media was fairly left leaning...because those people were mostly journalists whose liberal arts educations influenced their world view. Fox and Co intro'd the notion of broadcasters over journalists. Basically, everyone on tv has the background education of a "weather girl."

    I wonder if any anchors on any of the major networks actually have journalism degrees anymore.

    Now almost all media is in some way corporate. Meaning it is no longer the fourth estate our forefathers intended in our free press, but instead a shill and horn for corporate interests whose end goal is to increase ratings and make money!
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    Oct 13, 2009 4:15 PM GMT
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    And it was the Fox News Channel that sponsored the "Tea Parties". That entire concept was originated, advertised, and glorified by FNC.

    How stupid do they think Americans are?[/quote]

    Them and the teabaggers -HAHAHA TEABAGGERS! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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    Oct 13, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    GotBiceps said I'd argue that they're the only ones to actually offer up both sides of an argument, instead of vehemently clinging to one stance.


    This is something you´d have to assert rather than argue.
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    Oct 13, 2009 4:49 PM GMT


    Of course the Fox bear sh!ts in the woods. The Obama administration should be thankful that 95% of the mainstream media is strongly in their corner. They can't handle ONE cable news network that doesn't tow the company line so they relentlessly whine about them. It's rather funny to me. There are other dissenting opinions to what the Dems put out.

    I trust the American people to view news from Liberal and Conservative sources and make decisions for themselves. I read countless news articles via realclearpolitics.com so I have myriad views to look at topics of interest. There has to be a reason why so many average Americans watch Fox news though. My guess is that many don't feel that other news sources are covering anything that could be true, but reflect negatively on Pres Obama.
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    Oct 13, 2009 5:05 PM GMT
    Yes, Fox presents both sides of each argument.
    The far right and the extreme far right.
    Fair and balanced.
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    Oct 13, 2009 5:30 PM GMT
    GotBiceps saidOh my God. Did this thread really get started? CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC...completely run with liberal agendas to say the absolute least. And now you're telling me that Fox is "conservative"? I'd argue that they're the only ones to actually offer up both sides of an argument, instead of vehemently clinging to one stance. Where was the ACORN scandal on CNN or MSNBC, other than in attempts to mar the character of the undercover reporters? Just because Fox doesn't wholeheartedly promote the liberal agenda like everyone else doesn't mean they're an arm for the Republican party. It is merely the lone network that challenges the liberal agenda, and, true to form, the left has targeted its wasps at Fox to silence any attempts to defeat one voice. As always, you are going to believe what you want to believe, but honestly...a little critical thinking would go a long way.


    Well said, and what people don't realize is its mostly independents and democrats who are a bit upset and don't feel like they're getting the right info from the other networks that watch FNC.

    Yea the whole ACORN thing really put the other networks to shame, and we'd know nothing about these special advisers if not for FNC either. Bush got criticize just as much.

    I saw someone mention how stupid we Americans are, I agree with that, because we seem to keep voting for people who are more about themselves and not for us. I think Americans should stay home when its time to vote, so we can really see who is for the people and who is just out for themselves because both parties stink rofl
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    Oct 13, 2009 5:44 PM GMT
    GotBiceps said...CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC...completely run with liberal agendas...Where was the ACORN scandal on CNN or MSNBC, other than in attempts to mar the character of the undercover reporters? Just because Fox doesn't wholeheartedly promote the liberal agenda like everyone else doesn't mean they're an arm for the Republican party...a little critical thinking would go a long way.

    Speaking of critical thinking, you'll have your work cut out for you demonstrating the liberal agenda of the networks you list. MSNBC has 3 left-leaning hosts, one right-leaning, and their daytime news is bereft of leaning...that's the most you can claim.

    Speaking of critical thinking, just because the other channels are LEFT OF YOU doesn't mean they're left-leaning, much less liberal. There is no liberal channel on TV. None. I should know, because I'm a liberal.

    Speaking of critical thinking, let's take the word "agenda." Reporting something from a conservative or liberal standpoint isn't necessarily promoting an agenda. Thus, Fox's daytime news, while right-biased, is agenda-less. There's no harm in this, and it serves to increase discussion, as long as it's reported fairly. Yes, go after Obama...that's what a fucking news organization is supposed to do.

    Speaking of critical thinking, as far as agendas go, Fox created a scandal (ACORN) to prove their point. Fox promotes and organizes protests to prove their point. THAT is the definition of agenda. If they merely reported on it, great, but agenda-less.

    Once in awhile Fox actually nails it. I thought Bill O'Reilly's interview of (then candidate) Barack Obama to be the best of all others. However, I wish Fox would spend more time reporting and challenging the administration on policy (much of which I disagree with) than manufacturing controversies, protests and scandals.
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    Oct 14, 2009 10:50 AM GMT
    Reporting something from a conservative or liberal standpoint isn't necessarily promoting an agenda. Thus, Fox's daytime news, while right-biased, is agenda-less.

    Really? And the wall to wall coverage of the Teabagger protests would be considered agenda-less??
    The reporting they did about the Birther Movement would be considered unbiased journalism?

    That's a bogus channel ... it lies when it wants to and tells you only what they want you to hear
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    Oct 18, 2009 11:01 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]mickeytopogigio said[/cite]
    GotBiceps said...CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC...completely run with liberal agendas...Where was the ACORN scandal on CNN or MSNBC, other than in attempts to mar the character of the undercover reporters? Just because Fox doesn't wholeheartedly promote the liberal agenda like everyone else doesn't mean they're an arm for the Republican party..

    Speaking of critical thinking, as far as agendas go, Fox created a scandal (ACORN) to prove their point. Fox promotes and organizes protests to prove their point. THAT is the definition of agenda. If they merely reported on it, great, but agenda-less.

    This ACORN scandal is a completely fabricated issue out of little more than a few improfessional employees who should be fired. FOX news claims they are putting a light on government money being wasted and exposing lawbreaking in the use of taxpayers money. Lets compare the pittence few million ACORN receives from the government with the amounts handed out to Haliburton, KBR via no bid contracts, and Blackwater, these three represent billions of dollars, there have been numerous known scandals of waste, fraud, and abuse of funding, murders followed by convictions, rape covered up by workers and military personel followed by convictions, negligent homicide, and the list goes on. Where is FOX news on these many times more serious issues ? Well, they are not interested in exposing the repugs whom they represent, in spite of how much more voluminous the waste fraud and abuse. This fact says volumes about where FOX interests and agenda stands
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    Oct 20, 2009 10:58 PM GMT
    Check out this Fox News "poll" and tell me they aren't biased. I laughed out loud. Too bad they won't post my comments in their comment section. Guess they support censorship of opposition as well.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/10/19/white-house-attacking-fox-news/
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    Oct 20, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
    I have watched all the major news networks and I have found that Fox reports the most accurate and detailed stories. MSN, CNN types are puppets of the obama administration.
    Numbers don't lie... Fox is light years ahead of any other network.
    I support Fox news.

    And just yesterday I sent a contribution to the Defeat Obama fund.
    Be rest assured we will take back the white house and most of the senate in the next elections.

    All bashes and ridicule are welcome. It's what you do best when someone has a different view than yours. You are open and understanding of different ideas, as long as the ideas are the same as yours lol.

    Bash away ! =-)
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    Oct 20, 2009 11:16 PM GMT
    I don't understand how people can argue "liberal" is a bad thing when "liberal arts" are a basic foundation of education. However, generally the people making this argument, are--well--uneducated or so radically Christian they'll ignore the proven information that is presented to them.