Self Defense For Gays

  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 13, 2009 3:16 AM GMT
    October 12, marked the anniversary of the death of Matthew Shepard, it's been almost eleven years since his death, but attacks on gays are still on the rise. I have been boxing for almost seven years now and I love it, how many of you guys have trained in some form of martial arts or self defense. I think all gay men, should consider learning some type of self defense, because you never know when you may encounter some ignorant individuals and may end up fighting for you life.
  • jgymnast733

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    Oct 13, 2009 3:29 AM GMT
    I been studying jiu jitsu for the past 8years but let me tell you my man nothing beats a firearm...That seems to be the only thing these dumb mother fuckers understand, so we must learn to speak their language.
    PERIOD,,icon_exclaim.gif
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 13, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
    jgymnast733 saidI been studying jiu jitsu for the past 8years but let me tell you my man nothing beats a firearm...That seems to be the only thing these dumb mother fuckers understand, so we must learn to speak their language.
    PERIOD,,icon_exclaim.gif


    I have to be honest, I'm not a real big fan of firearms icon_sad.gif
  • jgymnast733

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    Oct 14, 2009 12:00 AM GMT
    Thats okay, alot of people feel the same way
    i respect your choice.......but if it's a matter of me or him,,,He's goin downicon_exclaim.gif
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 14, 2009 1:38 AM GMT
    jgymnast733 saidThats okay, alot of people feel the same way
    i respect your choice.......but if it's a matter of me or him,,,He's goin downicon_exclaim.gif


    A man brutally beaten in New York City was targeted because he is openly gay, the New York Police Department said Monday.

    Two men shouting "anti-gay remarks" viciously beat Jack Price, 49, as he left a 24-hour deli on College Point Boulevard in Queens early Friday morning, police said. No further details where available about the attack.

    Price is being treated at New York Hospital Medical Center of Queens, where "he is in fair condition and his vital signs are stable," said hospital spokeswoman Camela Morrissey.

    Police arrested Daniel Aleman, 26, and charged him with assault and aggravated assault as a hate crime.

    "When someone is attacked for being who they are, and for being proud of who they are, there is no other explanation for that attack than hatred and bigotry," said New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, the first openly gay speaker of the city council.

    "I know the Queens community is outraged that hate has tainted their streets, and I know they will join with us in helping the local authorities find the second suspect."

    The police department's Hate Crimes Task Force is investigating the incident.

    No court date has been set for Aleman.


    And this happened this past Friday I believe (smh)
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    Oct 14, 2009 1:47 AM GMT
    NyRuinz said
    jgymnast733 saidI been studying jiu jitsu for the past 8years but let me tell you my man nothing beats a firearm...That seems to be the only thing these dumb mother fuckers understand, so we must learn to speak their language.
    PERIOD,,icon_exclaim.gif


    I have to be honest, I'm not a real big fan of firearms icon_sad.gif


    I don't either, but I live 2 miles from the Detroit city limits so no matter how much or what type of self defense I learn, I am keeping my gun. I don't often hear of anti-gay violence here, but in Detroit home invasions happen with scary frequency.
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:03 AM GMT
    Cage fighting would be fun to learn...
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:09 AM GMT
    I agree that self defense would be a good skill to practice, no matter what town we live in. Whether we're attacked because we're gay or because someone is tweaking on crack, violence happens...

    I did a cardio-boxing class in the past but it didn't jive with me. If I could find a good self-defense class that was fun, I'd definitely sign up (and even pay a modest fee.)
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:09 AM GMT
    I am a wimp!I need a tough boyfriend lol I am short and small boned.I wish i could kick ass but I hate pain haha
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
    I hope I never have to fight for my life, but I'm able to fight back if it came to that.
    sometimes I even hope that some stupid homophobe would target the wrong gay guy and learn his lesson icon_twisted.gif
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
    lenoxx saidCage fighting would be fun to learn...


    Yes, because you'd probably get a complimentary tiny pair of shorts that say 'Tap Out' across the ass and submission at the hands of some very hot men.
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 14, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
    judoguy saidI hope I never have to fight for my life, but I'm able to fight back if it came to that.
    sometimes I even hope that some stupid homophobe would target the wrong gay guy and learn his lesson icon_twisted.gif


    I am pretty sure if that was to start happening, you would see a huge decrease in hate crimes against gay men. I think a lot of times, these homophobes target these men thinking they will have an easy win.
  • jgymnast733

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    Oct 14, 2009 2:31 AM GMT
    NyRuinz said
    jgymnast733 saidThats okay, alot of people feel the same way
    i respect your choice.......but if it's a matter of me or him,,,He's goin downicon_exclaim.gif


    A man brutally beaten in New York City was targeted because he is openly gay, the New York Police Department said Monday.

    Two men shouting "anti-gay remarks" viciously beat Jack Price, 49, as he left a 24-hour deli on College Point Boulevard in Queens early Friday morning, police said. No further details where available about the attack.

    Price is being treated at New York Hospital Medical Center of Queens, where "he is in fair condition and his vital signs are stable," said hospital spokeswoman Camela Morrissey.

    Police arrested Daniel Aleman, 26, and charged him with assault and aggravated assault as a hate crime.

    "When someone is attacked for being who they are, and for being proud of who they are, there is no other explanation for that attack than hatred and bigotry," said New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, the first openly gay speaker of the city council.

    "I know the Queens community is outraged that hate has tainted their streets, and I know they will join with us in helping the local authorities find the second suspect."

    The police department's Hate Crimes Task Force is investigating the incident.

    No court date has been set for Aleman.


    And this happened this past Friday I believe (smh)

    Yes, i'v heard about that and it makes me very angry.
    I'm going to reach out to his family, i hope he pulls through this..
    I guess we can send cards/notes to the hospital....I will...
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:31 AM GMT
    I've never felt the need to learn a martial art, I guess I have been fairly lucky living in very rural areas most of my life and not having any problems. If i was to choose a martial art what would you suggest? What do you think of Aikido?
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    heartrobb said
    lenoxx saidCage fighting would be fun to learn...


    Yes, because you'd probably get a complimentary tiny pair of shorts that say 'Tap Out' across the ass and submission at the hands of some very hot men.

    MMmmmmmm, how can i get my hands on a pair of those shorts.?
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    heartrobb said
    lenoxx saidCage fighting would be fun to learn...


    Yes, because you'd probably get a complimentary tiny pair of shorts that say 'Tap Out' across the ass and submission at the hands of some very hot men.



    YAY! BOOTY SHORTS!!!!! now where do I sign up again?! icon_biggrin.gif
  • NyRuinz

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    Oct 14, 2009 2:40 AM GMT
    baldrick05 saidI've never felt the need to learn a martial art, I guess I have been fairly lucky living in very rural areas most of my life and not having any problems. If i was to choose a martial art what would you suggest? What do you think of Aikido?


    I think it's basically what you feel comfortable with. I personally love boxing, but I have some friends who practice muay thai, and some who are in to brazilian jui-jitsui. I have been in situations where all I had to do is show the person, I was willing to defend myself and I knew how (boxers stance), and they would back off. I would definitely try aikido. It's not just about defending yourself, there are so many benefits to learning a martial art (confidence, self esteem, exercise) It's just like a warranty on an electronic item, you may not ever need to use it, but you will have it just in case.
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:44 AM GMT
    jgymnast733 said
    heartrobb said
    lenoxx saidCage fighting would be fun to learn...


    Yes, because you'd probably get a complimentary tiny pair of shorts that say 'Tap Out' across the ass and submission at the hands of some very hot men.

    MMmmmmmm, how can i get my hands on a pair of those shorts.?



    http://shop.tapout.com/index.cfm?fa=shop.listing&productId=2351
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    Oct 14, 2009 2:46 AM GMT
    Do they have anything shorter? icon_wink.gif
  • hartfan

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    Oct 14, 2009 3:29 AM GMT
    NyRuinz said
    judoguy saidI hope I never have to fight for my life, but I'm able to fight back if it came to that.
    sometimes I even hope that some stupid homophobe would target the wrong gay guy and learn his lesson icon_twisted.gif


    I am pretty sure if that was to start happening, you would see a huge decrease in hate crimes against gay men. I think a lot of times, these homophobes target these men thinking they will have an easy win.


    If even a small number of gay men were like this guy below, no one would dare target gay men anymore.

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    Oct 14, 2009 3:39 AM GMT
    baldrick05 saidI've never felt the need to learn a martial art, I guess I have been fairly lucky living in very rural areas most of my life and not having any problems. If i was to choose a martial art what would you suggest? What do you think of Aikido?


    I've been training in Krav Maga for over a year now and I really like it. I would definitely recommend trying this if you could only learn one thing.

    Krav Maga (translates to Contact Combat in Hebrew) is the highly effective battle tested Israeli system of self defense, fighting skills and defensive tactics. Unlike most martial arts, Krav Maga is essentially a tactical defense skill. Its philosophy emphasizes threat neutralization, simultaneous defensive and offensive maneuvers, and aggressive endurance in a 'him-or-me' context. Krav Maga is still used by the Israel Defense Forces and several closely related variations have been developed and adopted by law enforcement, Mossad, Shin Bet, FBI and United States special operations forces. It has also been adopted for civilians.

    There are no rules for Krav Maga fighting, and no built-in distinctions in training between men and women. Techniques generally focus on training combatants in conditions approximating real-life scenarios, teaching people to function during the stress and shock of a sudden, violent encounter. It emphasizes using the most natural, quickest, reflexes of the body, exploiting the opponent's vulnerabilities to their extreme and using the aid of any available objects. It is specifically designed to be used by anyone and everyone no matter their age, gender, size, health condition and other factors.
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    Oct 14, 2009 4:49 AM GMT
    The problem nyruins and judoguy - well i guess it's not really a problem - is as we become more experienced and better trained at fighting, our confidence and the way we carry ourselves changes. and thus the chance that some homophobic dipshit is going to try anything decreases severely. like nyruinz says.

    oddly, the straight guys i've trained with, especially the big ones, have guys trying to start something with them far too often.

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    Oct 14, 2009 12:54 PM GMT
    Thank you for the tips, I will defintely start to look into Krav Maga or Aikido. I think it would be a really nice addition to my work out plan.
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    Oct 14, 2009 1:00 PM GMT
    Just follow the lead of Mimi Plastique!

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    Oct 14, 2009 1:19 PM GMT
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