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DrobUA Posts: 436
Oct 14, 2009 10:18 PM GMT
Please don't get offended this is not meant to be ignorant or insensitive this is strictly curiosity. I know you can get HIV from topping and bottoming but I was wondering if one is considered "safer" than the other. obviously condoms are necessary either way but considering the proximity to the intestine, one of the most absorbent parts of the body, that it seemed logical that bottoming would be more likely to contract it. Does anyone know any facts about this?
Oct 15, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
No one will touch this?

Your assumptions are correct. Though nothing is safe. It's easier to go from top to bottom then from bottom to top.
rightasrain Posts: 39
Oct 15, 2009 4:29 AM GMT
'theory' says it is safer to top than bottom when not using condoms...

although HIV is an inefficiently transmitted virus, be careful... even in persons on antiretroviral therapy, the rectal mucosa retains detectable levels of HIV RNA even if peripheral blood viral load levels are 'undetectable'. Higher Levels of HIV in Rectal Secretions Among MSM

the lesson is you should always assume it is possible to become infected whether top or bottom, or whether your partner is 'undetectable' or not. bottom line... set boundaries for yourself and stick to them.


DrobUA Posts: 436
Oct 15, 2009 11:26 AM GMT
thanks for the replies
cthedj Posts: 401
Oct 15, 2009 11:35 AM GMT
Without a condom either way you are dancing on the mine fields. It is true the stakes are higher getting it from bottoming and having them not pull out bareback. Remember there is still a risk. A buddy of mine is a top and got it from a boyfriend who lied and said he was negative. Stopped using condoms and boom he got sick.
Oct 16, 2009 9:01 AM GMT
Sex without rubbers is gross anyway. No idea why people fetishise it.
cthedj Posts: 401
Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM GMT
Lostboy saidSex without rubbers is gross anyway. No idea why people fetishise it.
Because it feels more normal and good. Yes you are right it is still gross though the actualy concept but not if they are clean.
markthespot Posts: 4
Nov 06, 2009 8:16 PM GMT
There is nothing like THE REAL THING. Unfortunately and I repeat strongly, unfortunately, we can no longer take chances with so many types of diseases out there and a condom is necessary. While on this subject, I wonder how many or if any of you have given thought of how untrusting we have to be with our partners today by having to use protection. To me, it has made the whole sexual act not only false and untrusting with being intimate but less enjoyable. There has to be some sort of physical attraction or an outright love connection between two people or you wouldn’t want to have sex. Insisting that a condom be used shows outright distrust and surely, somewhere in your minds, this must interfere with a genuine sexual experience. Perhaps, the use of a condom is so standard in use today that no one gives any thought to this. Automatically reaching for a condom without thought would probably apply more to “animals” that just want to get their rocks off and move on to the next partner. I would be interested in what others have to say regarding this. You have to admit that the act shows total distrust by using a condom. This, of course, does not apply to a man and a woman having sex, using a condom that don’t want children.
Mycro Posts: 107
Nov 06, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
If I remember correctly, it's about 1 in 200 if you're the receptive partner and about 1 in 1500 if your the receptive partner. Of course, there are so many other factors that also need to be included.
mexi_boy Posts: 3
Nov 06, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
Lostboy saidSex without rubbers is gross anyway. No idea why people fetishise it.


For thousands of years people fucked without them!