Arctic ice cap to disappear in 20-30 years

  • metta

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    Oct 15, 2009 7:15 AM GMT
    Arctic ice cap to disappear in 20-30 years


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    The Arctic ice cap will disappear completely in summer months within 20 to 30 years, a polar research team said as they presented findings from an expedition led by adventurer Pen Hadow.

    It is likely to be largely ice-free during the warmer months within a decade, the experts added.

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    Oct 15, 2009 3:02 PM GMT
    That sucks, but they have been shrinking for some time. Is this news because it is happening faster than thought or slower?
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    Oct 15, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
    Sorry global warming is a fictional story that doesnt fly anymore.
    Every year since 1998 it has gotten consecutively colder and colder. Record low temps are being set around the globe, but you will not hear a damn thing from the media. The repugnant Al Gore's claim about the polar bear has been smashed, due to a fastly increasing population.
    When are people gonna look around and say,,.. something funny is going on here. Where is this "global warming"??? Once your taxes are wayyy up for "environmental" fees etc, is when the government will be laughing the other way.
    And thee worst MOST ANNOYING line you hear is "Save the planet" or "Undue climate change"... Like we have any role in reversing nature. Its almost comical yet sad to see companies profiting on these tag lines.
    WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!
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    Oct 15, 2009 3:21 PM GMT
    They must not be up on the findings of theBritish courts of at least 11 inaccuracies in the film "Anb Inconvenient Truth", in which British experts were forced to concede that it would take a millennia for the Arctic ice cap to melt(nowpublic.com). In fact many scientists suggest that both the Arctic and Antarctic ice caps are growing and not shrinking. In fact there is infromation that the Arctic ice cap grew about 9% from 2007 to 2008 (m4gw.com and worldclimatereport.com). I would suggest anyone wanting to be truely infromed and have both viewpoints check out the video "the great Global Warming Swindle" (video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4860344067427439443#). It's something to think about .
  • FredMG

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    Oct 15, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
    Filmhottie.

    The tag "global warming" so last century. It's "global climate change". Which accounts for hotter summers, colder winters, stinger hurricanes / monsoons / typhoons.

    It's all very sciencey with data comming from crackpots like NOAA, The U.S and Royal Navies. Not to mention any scientist that deals with the natural world like glaciologists, oceanologitsts and a host of others.

    Actually I don't like the idea myself, I'd like to think things like Katrina was gods punishment for voting republican and being intolerant. It the regular fall repeat of California wildfires as god punishing greed and pride.

    But alas I'm a scientist and the facts pretty much spell it out for me.
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    Oct 15, 2009 3:37 PM GMT
    filmhottie saidSorry global warming is a fictional story that doesnt fly anymore.
    Every year since 1998 it has gotten consecutively colder and colder. Record low temps are being set around the globe, but you will not hear a damn thing from the media. The repugnant Al Gore's claim about the polar bear has been smashed, due to a fastly increasing population.
    When are people gonna look around and say,,.. something funny is going on here. Where is this "global warming"??? Once your taxes are wayyy up for "environmental" fees etc, is when the government will be laughing the other way.
    And thee worst MOST ANNOYING line you hear is "Save the planet" or "Undue climate change"... Like we have any role in reversing nature. Its almost comical yet sad to see companies profiting on these tag lines.
    WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!


    I'm glad i wasn't the one who had to say this, i have enough on my plate posting about regulation of big banking and corporate America to have to carry the global warming myth too lol.

    hear hear
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    Oct 15, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
    FredPDX saidFilmhottie.

    The tag "global warming" so last century. It's "global climate change". Which accounts for hotter summers, colder winters, stinger hurricanes / monsoons / typhoons.

    It's all very sciencey with data comming from crackpots like NOAA, The U.S and Royal Navies. Not to mention any scientist that deals with the natural world like glaciologists, oceanologitsts and a host of others.

    Actually I don't like the idea myself, I'd like to think things like Katrina was gods punishment for voting republican and being intolerant. It the regular fall repeat of California wildfires as god punishing greed and pride.

    But alas I'm a scientist and the facts pretty much spell it out for me.


    Call it by whatever politically correct focus group term you like. The fact is that the majority of the worlds scientist don't support the "Climate Change" theory and neither does the science. And by-theby The climate has always been changing on this planet and there is science to support that. As for Katrina you may want to argue with the British experts who conceded in court that events such as Katrina, hurricanes, monsoons and typhoons and others cannot be attributed to "Climate Change" and have no correlation to it. In fact many of the worlds scientists including the Japanese are of the opinion that they are more directly influenced by the sun. You may want to rethink the gods punishment angle on that one. As for the fires in California, to try and attribute the fires in California and the west to climate change is grossly irresponsable and misinformed. I would suggest that you study up on the 1988 fires in Yellowstone National Park and the management techniques of the Bureau of Land Management and the Forest Service! The fires can be more directly correlated to years of mismanagement by the agencies charged to manage them, i.e. the manuplation of the process of natural succession and the circumventing of the role that forest fires play in succession. The facts point to the fires being the result of years of mismanagement of Old Growth Forests and not to "Climate Change". To ignore the human mismanagement of such forests and try to dirrectly attribute the fires to "Climate Change" is faulty science! As a Scientist living in the Pacific North West I would expect that you would understand the management issues with the Old Growth Forests as well as any of us living in the west with an interest in the subject. Again you might want to rethink the gods punishment angle on this one. I do hope that your scientific facts are purely motivated by science and not politics.I guess what I'm saying is that your facts don't pretty much spell it out for me ! All this talk about Katrina and fires and the topic was the Arctic Ice Cap, which the facts suggest is actually growing and not shrinking!
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    Oct 15, 2009 5:19 PM GMT
    The amount of surface that the ice covers is pretty irrelevant. Bodies of water freeze from the top down. Surface ice is new ice, and thin.