SERIOUS Post: What made you more ATTRACTED to MEN than WOMEN?

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    Oct 16, 2009 12:20 AM GMT
    Think back to when you were a kid. Really think back to the moment you found men more appealing. For some of us, that may have happened later in life. For me it did. Growing up I thought all guys were basically smelly, dirty people. My closest example was my brother who would spit on me, and major BO at the time.

    But then one day I thought, hey, I'm a guy. I don't think I'm gross. And now, bring on the musky pit smell!

    As far as not finding women equally attractive, I think it was how women were always grossly sexualized, like a blonde with her legs spread apart on the hood of a car. And........well.............seeing a female "item" (tampon) in the trash one day pretty much sealed the deal.

    How about you?


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    Oct 16, 2009 12:31 AM GMT
    I think "Serious" sometimes beckons for the trolls to come out of their caves and attack.... Juuuust saying. icon_lol.gif

    I would say it is largely due to the logical nature of guys... I understand them, and can relate much more deeply.


    Also arm flab.

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    And a nicely shaped back.

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    Oct 16, 2009 12:38 AM GMT
    What attracts me to men is the structural or chemical flaw somewhere in my cerebral cortex that makes me think sexual intercourse with a man will propagate my species. It's pretty fucked up.
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    Oct 16, 2009 12:39 AM GMT
    The absence of a penis on a woman, of course.

    But to be serious for a change, is it something quantifiable? It's like asking a straight man why he likes women more. He just, you know, does. He's biologically hard-wired to respond to them the way we're biologically hard-wired to respond to men.

    Unless you're posing the question to someone further into the middle of the Kinsey scale, I don't think you'll necessarily be able to get a consensus on why somebody goes for men over women. That makes human sexuality all seem too much like a choice.
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    Oct 16, 2009 12:44 AM GMT
    zdrew saidThe absence of a penis on a woman, of course.

    But to be serious for a change, is it something quantifiable? It's like asking a straight man why he likes women more. He just, you know, does. He's biologically hard-wired to respond to them the way we're biologically hard-wired to respond to men.

    Unless you're posing the question to someone further into the middle of the Kinsey scale, I don't think you'll necessarily be able to get a consensus on why somebody goes for men over women. That makes human sexuality all seem too much like a choice.



    That's what I meant by "Arm flab".

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    Oct 16, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    I tell everybody that it happened the first time I saw the "Love Will Never Do" video. I saw this body:

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    And this face:antonio+sabato+jr..bmp

    I loved Janet, and realized I wanted to be friends with her and kiss and touch Antonio and

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    Oct 16, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    zdrew saidThe absence of a penis on a woman, of course.

    But to be serious for a change, is it something quantifiable? It's like asking a straight man why he likes women more. He just, you know, does. He's biologically hard-wired to respond to them the way we're biologically hard-wired to respond to men.

    Unless you're posing the question to someone further into the middle of the Kinsey scale, I don't think you'll necessarily be able to get a consensus on why somebody goes for men over women. That makes human sexuality all seem too much like a choice.


    There must have been a moment, or moments, in your childhood, where another male did something, or looked in some way, that made you find men more attractive. From the psychologist I interviewed "All of our sexual desires and interests often start with something in our youth, like 7, 8 , 9, 10 years old."

    I don't believe you choose to have certain moments and people be a turn-on, but it is those incidents of being turned on that define our path sometimes. In other words, if it feels good, I will do it more.
  • Webster666

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    Oct 16, 2009 1:18 AM GMT
    I like the angles and hardness and muscles on a guy.
    Girls are all squishy.
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    Oct 16, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    Fat women.
  • silverfox

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    Oct 16, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    I remember this guy Jay put his hand on my back.

    Nothing more than that.

    I knew I liked men better....even though I had just felt Debi's breasts just hours before.
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    Oct 16, 2009 4:31 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    There must have been a moment, or moments, in your childhood, where another male did something, or looked in some way, that made you find men more attractive. From the psychologist I interviewed "All of our sexual desires and interests often start with something in our youth, like 7, 8 , 9, 10 years old."


    I don't think I buy this. I might be misunderstanding or oversimplifying your argument (and if I am, let me know). It sounds like your psychologist is claiming human sexuality isn't determined by nature, but by a particular, finite, measurable instance.

    Here's a hypothetical: Two eight-year old boys are playing in cousin X's livingroom. They come across his collection of gay porn.

    Boy Y thinks it's really gross.

    Boy Z thinks it's alright.

    Does this mean that at this exact moment Boy Y has 'become' straight and Boy Z has 'become' gay? It's my understanding, rather, that it's only particular instances that might make us aware of pre-existing sexuality. Your psychologist sounds like he's uncomfortably close to claiming that a boy being molested as a child, for instance, might actually make him gay. I'm sure this isn't the case, but it sure sounds like it.

    wrestlervic also said
    I don't believe you choose to have certain moments and people be a turn-on, but it is those incidents of being turned on that define our path sometimes. In other words, if it feels good, I will do it more.


    A blowjob, performed properly, feels damned good, regardless of who's doing it. If you're blindfolded and have no sensory detail of the experience save the actual mouth on your penis, the gender of the blower will not alter your pleasure. Getting a good blowjob will convince you that you like sexual activity, and will likely motivate you to seek out more sex. It is your underlying sexual preferences (perhaps tempered by social convention and expectation), that will lead you to pursue either men or women for that sex.

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    Oct 16, 2009 5:15 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    There must have been a moment, or moments, in your childhood, where another male did something, or looked in some way, that made you find men more attractive. From the psychologist I interviewed "All of our sexual desires and interests often start with something in our youth, like 7, 8 , 9, 10 years old."

    I don't believe you choose to have certain moments and people be a turn-on, but it is those incidents of being turned on that define our path sometimes. In other words, if it feels good, I will do it more.


    I remember being around 7ish at Universal Studios in Hollywood, and my parents took me to see a live stage show of Conan the Barbarian. I saw the really buff actor in nothing but his little Conan loincloth and swinging that awesome sword and thought, "Ooooh, he's nice to look at." I think from then on, I like to look at men.
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    Oct 16, 2009 7:23 AM GMT
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    wrestlervic said
    There must have been a moment, or moments, in your childhood, where another male did something, or looked in some way, that made you find men more attractive. From the psychologist I interviewed "All of our sexual desires and interests often start with something in our youth, like 7, 8 , 9, 10 years old."


    I don't think I buy this. I might be misunderstanding or oversimplifying your argument (and if I am, let me know). It sounds like your psychologist is claiming human sexuality isn't determined by nature, but by a particular, finite, measurable instance.

    Here's a hypothetical: Two eight-year old boys are playing in cousin X's livingroom. They come across his collection of gay porn.

    Boy Y thinks it's really gross.

    Boy Z thinks it's alright.

    Does this mean that at this exact moment Boy Y has 'become' straight and Boy Z has 'become' gay? It's my understanding, rather, that it's only particular instances that might make us aware of pre-existing sexuality. Your psychologist sounds like he's uncomfortably close to claiming that a boy being molested as a child, for instance, might actually make him gay. I'm sure this isn't the case, but it sure sounds like it.

    wrestlervic also said
    I don't believe you choose to have certain moments and people be a turn-on, but it is those incidents of being turned on that define our path sometimes. In other words, if it feels good, I will do it more.


    A blowjob, performed properly, feels damned good, regardless of who's doing it. If you're blindfolded and have no sensory detail of the experience save the actual mouth on your penis, the gender of the blower will not alter your pleasure. Getting a good blowjob will convince you that you like sexual activity, and will likely motivate you to seek out more sex. It is your underlying sexual preferences (perhaps tempered by social convention and expectation), that will lead you to pursue either men or women for that sex.

    ThePenIsMyTier said
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    How precious, kiddo.


    Dude, get off your high-horse. Imprinting is a belief virtually all psychologists are aware of. You are a result of a combination of genes and early experiences, it's as simple as that.
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    Oct 16, 2009 8:00 AM GMT
    it was the bestiality that cinched it for me....
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    Oct 16, 2009 9:30 AM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    Dude, get off your high-horse. Imprinting is a belief virtually all psychologists are aware of. You are a result of a combination of genes and early experiences, it's as simple as that.


    I'm glad to know that sexual orientation is "as simple as that". That would've saved me a lifetime (now, now, let;s not talk about how short my lifetime has been) of mental anguish! It "happened" to me..... IF ONLY I had a time machine I could go back and become straight by not looking at all those hot boys/men throughout my life and warping into this gay boy that I am!!!!

    But really you're both right. But one of you is excluding the other's thoughts... icon_cry.gif Lonely little thoughts!

    Now Vic may have a lot of wrong mixed in, or trouble explaining why he is right, but at the basis of his argument, he is right. I do believe it can be an incident, traumatic, or assuring, that carves a path. But innate personality traits already exist. Being a twin, I prove that. Nearly identical lives for 14-ish years - but two sets of genes. Two different people.

    zdrew said

    ThePenIsMyTier said
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    How precious, kiddo.


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    Oct 16, 2009 9:48 AM GMT
    Why choose? They both have their pros and cons. icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 16, 2009 10:06 AM GMT
    I kinda feel like this question isn't posed properly but maybe I'm being bitchy right now.

    I think back to having crushes on little boys my age when I was in kindergarten and it wasn't sexual. I didn't even know what sex was at that time. It was intimacy that I daydreamed about....and not physically necessarily. I daydreamed about me and the other guy being entranced with one another and being in some sort of fairly tale love story filled with admiration and playful banter. Think Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, etc. that kind of shit. I don't know. LOL Fast forward to when I was 18 and battling with it against the pressures of society and I guess my desire for that intimacy couldn't be quenched by the interactions I had with girls. I had beautiful girls literally throwing themselves at me and I didn't want them. I had to think to myself, "why am I resisting when all these other guys were melting over these girls." I just woke up, realized, and stopped fighting it. I longed for that strength and relative masculinity in a mate that only a guy possessed. I thought to myself, "That's what I want so why am I trying to be something else?". I was never attracted to girls/women in the same sense. In fact, I saw them as competition in some mysterious kind of way.
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    Oct 16, 2009 10:15 AM GMT
    Your question is: 'What made you more ATTRACTED to MEN than WOMEN?"
    Simple question, simple answer....Nature.

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    Oct 16, 2009 10:33 AM GMT
    yeah, yeah, YEAH!

    I suppose that's what I was saying with my long-winded self. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 16, 2009 10:33 AM GMT
    ... so many things... can't list them all.icon_eek.gificon_redface.gif
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    Oct 16, 2009 10:45 AM GMT
    I wish there was a point in time…that’s it…I’m gay.
    It’s a process, not dissimilar to discovering your career.
    How many people ask you what you want to be when you grow up?
    Would have been nice if they had asked: What will your sexual preference be when you grow up?
    For a large percentage of us the answer was and is: “I don’t know.” A lucky few know early on. Some of us have to try out a few different things till we find the one that fits.
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    Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM GMT
    This thread makes the assumption that we previously held any attraction what so ever for women........

    I had muscle mags in a hole under the floorboards along with video games, and R rated movies when I was 12

    I was just waiting for all those "changes" puberty brings and thought I was one of those slow developing kids I kept hearing adults talk about and that i'd wake up one day like all the other kids and have this seemingly unexplainable urge to talk about girls all day. It took me two year to realize that wasn't going to happen....and another year to accept it
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    Oct 16, 2009 12:13 PM GMT
    By fifth grade in elementary school I wanted to spend as much time as I could at the beach or the pool. Partly because I loved to swim, partly because I liked looking at the men. I didn't know what it meant, but I knew what I liked.
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    Oct 16, 2009 12:19 PM GMT
    55% of gay men say it is 'nature'.
    40% say it is 'nurture'.

    The rest said they were sucked into it. icon_twisted.gif
  • Little_Spoon

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    Oct 16, 2009 12:25 PM GMT
    I don't know honestly.

    I still think women are beautiful, in the way I think a sculpture in a museum is beautiful.

    But men...oh man, the core of a guy when even slightly built is just so great looking.

    And of course there's Tommy. *Swooooon*


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