Reality TV and 15 minutes of fame.

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    Oct 18, 2009 6:53 PM GMT
    Ok, so we're now finding out that the "Balloon Boy" stunt will be prosecuted as a hoax. Seemingly, one more hair brain scheme to create enough attention for a reality TV show through the exploitation of ones children. And now I'm seeing some folks, even here on RJ, anticipating the Levi Johnston spread in Playgirl. A young man now to be rewarded for getting his girlfriend pregnant simply by showing the entire world the penis he used to do it. This apparently with no concern for the impact it might likely have on his daughter in the future.

    Now, before you roast me because I, my self, have posted nude photos here on RJ please remember. All I've asked for in response is a high-five and some fitness encouragement, not world fame and fortune.

    So, am I wrong to feel that the country is going down the toilet because we, as a nation, have become so easily entertained by mediocrity that no one need bother to achieve anything or have talent and substance to contribute any more? Is it really all it takes, to keep us entertained, that someone let us watch them in their home every week or show us their genitals?

    Am I overreacting? It wouldn't be the first time... Your thoughts.

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    Oct 18, 2009 9:01 PM GMT
    GFORCE,

    There is nothing new under the sun. The balloon boy stunt, or Levi Johnston showing off his 'goods' is no different than what people have been doing in this country since its origin.

    In the 1950s, someone could have said the same thing when television first appeared and they saw individuals making fools of themselves on gameshows. I'm not sure if you read or seen the movie They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, but that's a depression-era example of people subjecting themselves to humiliation for a cash prize and notoriety. And of course it goes further back than that.

    In fact, you can find clear examples in human history going back thousands of years, across the globe, of people pulling stunts for fame. The only thing that has changed is that there are new media and tools to achieve the goal.

    The world keeps turning...
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    Oct 19, 2009 12:34 AM GMT
    And people will do anything for fame and money because we are people that glorify famous, rich people. Look at TMZ, People, Entertainment Tonight, Showbiz Tonight, US, etc. If the demand wasn't high, the supply would be lower.

    Plus, it is cheaper to get somebody known famous to do this stuff. That is why reality tv has taken off. Why would I pay 6 actors (Friends) 1 million a piece per episode when I can give 1 million to one person at the end of a show? It saves me hella money.
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    Oct 19, 2009 12:47 AM GMT
    In today's society, in general, celebrity leads to money. So it's no wonder people are chasing celebrity in any way possible. The moment anyone gets notoriety for any reason (by accident or of their own making) they've got an agent and a book deal lined up.

    It amazes me how prophetic Andy Warhol was.
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    Oct 19, 2009 12:53 AM GMT
    I'm so glad I somehow totally avoided this balloon crap. The first I heard of it was on Bill Maher Friday night, after the storm had calmed. Still don't know what really happened, except the kid puked.
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    Oct 19, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
    I didn't really pay attention to it, but the homophobic woman at work WILL NOT STOP talking about it.
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    Oct 19, 2009 1:25 AM GMT
    brandohsaurus saidI didn't really pay attention to it, but the homophobic woman at work WILL NOT STOP talking about it.

    Let me guess, she probably talks about Jon & Kate a lot also.
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    Oct 19, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    The movie Idiocracy will become reality in a few decades. icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 19, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    xrichx saidThe movie Idiocracy will become reality in a few decades. icon_confused.gif



    Decades?


    And usually this is rubbernecking... perverted though it is. It's like watching Britney Spears go further and further in a downward spiral. It's rubbernecking, except the world.
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    Oct 19, 2009 3:04 AM GMT
    no GFORCE you are not over reacting.

    I have thought at least a couple times a week; I need to get the heck out of here.
    What is wrong with these people?

    Have even half-joked to my partner about moving to New Zealand.

    He has started to look into it.
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    Oct 19, 2009 3:41 AM GMT
    Who is Levi Johnston and what is the big deal about him being in playgirl or getting his girlfriend pregnanticon_question.gif

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    Oct 19, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    chasgo3 saidWho is Levi Johnston and what is the big deal about him being in playgirl or getting his girlfriend pregnanticon_question.gif

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    I pray to God your joking...
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    Oct 19, 2009 3:56 AM GMT
    Ah, how I yearn for the good old days when religion was the opiate of the masses. TV was just a twinkle in Mama Baking Soda's and Papa Tropane Alkaloid's spoon.
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    Oct 19, 2009 3:56 AM GMT
    Nope.
    Not at all.
    Not really aware of pop media or music.

    Will you explain, please?
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    Oct 19, 2009 4:07 AM GMT
    chasgo3 saidNope.
    Not at all.
    Not really aware of pop media or music.

    Will you explain, please?


    I'd hardly call a presidential election pop media! Read a news paper every once in a while.

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    Oct 19, 2009 4:20 AM GMT
    That was presumptuous of you. I only asked for an explanation. Was it necessary for you to be rude?

    I Googled his name and all I found out was; he was the baby daddy of Sara Palin's daughter's child. How is he relevant to the past presidential election?

    I am unconcerned with pop media & culture, which he is apart of.
    How is he relevant to my or your life? Only as much as we allow.

    And I don't.

    Good night, sir.

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    Oct 19, 2009 4:27 AM GMT
    Not sure if you are questioning Levi Johnston's motivations or why people are responding the way they are... He got his fame by being notorious, and he's playing it up, just as anyone who takes advantage of what they have does.

    If your nude photos were viewed by a larger population and warranted monetary compensation because there was that demand, would you do it?

    Since you've already posted nude photos as you've stated, well I'm sure you would jump at the opportunity to be compensated for them. His "high-five" will just come with money attached, the fame is already there.
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    Oct 19, 2009 9:17 AM GMT
    I was one of the shmucks who watched the balloon drama from the moment they began coverage. I watched with horror for the two hours before we all discovered that Falcon wasn't flying. To find out it was a hoax really annoys me.

    Reality shows are just the new gladiator games. It probably won't be long before scenarios as depicted in the movie 'Gamer' become manifested.

    People love watching other people make fools of themselves so they can feel superior - and get a thrill watching conflict dramas of which they don't have to be a part. People who watch reality shows (and I admit I'm one of them) probably wouldn't if their lives were more full and exciting.
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    Oct 19, 2009 11:08 AM GMT
    GFORCE said
    So, am I wrong to feel that the country is going down the toilet because we, as a nation, have become so easily entertained by mediocrity that no one need bother to achieve anything or have talent and substance to contribute any more? Is it really all it takes, to keep us entertained, that someone let us watch them in their home every week or show us their genitals?

    Am I overreacting? It wouldn't be the first time... Your thoughts.




    I think you've got something there GFORCE. In a free market economy, it's all about what sells and it's reached the point where the most absurd and outlandish stuff sells the most. Producers and Directors have bills to pay and they usually have a ton of subordinates.

    Someone please tell me why I'm suppose to care about John and Kate and all their kids SO MUCH.
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    Oct 19, 2009 11:14 AM GMT
    Tonyvoyager saidI was one of the shmucks who watched the balloon drama from the moment they began coverage. I watched with horror for the two hours before we all discovered that Falcon wasn't flying. To find out it was a hoax really annoys me.

    Reality shows are just the new gladiator games. It probably won't be long before scenarios as depicted in the movie 'Gamer' become manifested.

    People love watching other people make fools of themselves so they can feel superior - and get a thrill watching conflict dramas of which they don't have to be a part. People who watch reality shows (and I admit I'm one of them) probably wouldn't if their lives were more full and exciting.



    Wait a minute!! I love Top Chef and Project Runway because of the reality but also because of my love for art. Some people have lives AND enjoy reality TV.
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    Oct 19, 2009 11:38 AM GMT
    chasgo3 saidThat was presumptuous of you. I only asked for an explanation. Was it necessary for you to be rude?

    I Googled his name and all I found out was; he was the baby daddy of Sara Palin's daughter's child. How is he relevant to the past presidential election?

    I am unconcerned with pop media & culture, which he is apart of.
    How is he relevant to my or your life? Only as much as we allow.

    And I don't.

    Good night, sir.

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    I wasn't trying to be rude so I'm sorry if it came off that way. But you might have at least googled Levi Johnston before replying to the thread. And if you don't know the relevance of Bristal's pregnancy to the presidential election I'm afraid I can't help you.
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    Oct 19, 2009 11:54 AM GMT
    I don't see how this reflects poorly on society. Staging hoaxes to gain notoriety is hardly new or party of reality TV. How many fortune tellers, mediums, or carnival sideshow freaks have there been vying for attention in a pre-television world? For a few hours, much of the nation cared about a little boy who might die in a spectacular way. How is that bad?

    The parents, however, are scheduled for sterilization and will go straight to bed without dinner.
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    Oct 19, 2009 12:05 PM GMT
    Global_Citizen saidIn today's society, in general, celebrity leads to money. So it's no wonder people are chasing celebrity in any way possible. The moment anyone gets notoriety for any reason (by accident or of their own making) they've got an agent and a book deal lined up.

    It amazes me how prophetic Andy Warhol was.



    Andy Warhol was special because he came along when art in America was dead. Not that art wasn't being made in the US but by in large it wasn't celebrated. It was a virtual graveyard. Then he comes around and says, "hey! see this can of soup and the design on the label? This is art!. You don't realize it because you see it all the time but this is art. Wake up America!! Art is all around you. Live!! be inspired!! Be creative!! Be visual! Be artists! I don't know if he was prophetic but his timing was impeccable. He transformed pop culture during his era.
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    Oct 19, 2009 12:06 PM GMT
    Erikk saidNot sure if you are questioning Levi Johnston's motivations or why people are responding the way they are... He got his fame by being notorious, and he's playing it up, just as anyone who takes advantage of what they have does.

    If your nude photos were viewed by a larger population and warranted monetary compensation because there was that demand, would you do it?

    Since you've already posted nude photos as you've stated, well I'm sure you would jump at the opportunity to be compensated for them. His "high-five" will just come with money attached, the fame is already there.


    Of course it would be framed this way sooner or later so don't think I haven't thought about the answer.

    First of all the photos I posted would, by all rights, be the accomplishment of the photographer/sculptor who took them. If they were profitable it would be as a result of her talent and/or notoriety. I would likely be left out of the transaction as would a model for one of my paintings.

    The only reason beyond this that photos might be lucrative for me would be my own notoriety, for some reason other than my body (we can all agree). And I honestly would jump at the opportunity, especially in this economy. But not if my popularity was a result of my own poor choices or stupidity. Or if it might be to the detriment of someone I cared about or, more importantly, for whom I was responsible!

    My grievance isn't with Levi. He can make his next dumb move if he wants to, posing for a mostly gay readership rag. My concern is with the fact that society awards great value to bad behavior and makes stupidity lucrative.
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    Oct 19, 2009 9:06 PM GMT
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    Global_Citizen saidIn today's society, in general, celebrity leads to money. So it's no wonder people are chasing celebrity in any way possible. The moment anyone gets notoriety for any reason (by accident or of their own making) they've got an agent and a book deal lined up.

    It amazes me how prophetic Andy Warhol was.



    Andy Warhol was special because he came along when art in America was dead. Not that art wasn't being made in the US but by in large it wasn't celebrated. It was a virtual graveyard. Then he comes around and says, "hey! see this can of soup and the design on the label? This is art!. You don't realize it because you see it all the time but this is art. Wake up America!! Art is all around you. Live!! be inspired!! Be creative!! Be visual! Be artists! I don't know if he was prophetic but his timing was impeccable. He transformed pop culture during his era.

    Well, yes, all that. But Andy Warhol is the one who said, "In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes."