Impassioned speech by World War 2 veteran for gay marriage

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    Oct 22, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/philip-spooner-video-wwii_n_329446.html





    God bless him.
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    Oct 22, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    Bless him for sure !!!! what a great example he gives for being open minded at any age !!! Thank you very much for posting this !!!
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    Oct 22, 2009 5:37 AM GMT
    he helps open my somewhat jaded heart a bit wider. thank you for reminding me, makavelli, that i still have much to learn about the world and my apparent 'truths' i hold of it.
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    Oct 22, 2009 8:00 AM GMT
    *sniff*. My heart melted a little. That's awesome that he testified.
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    Oct 22, 2009 8:41 AM GMT
    this is a true modern-day hero.

    survivor.

    and most importantly, someone who has never lost touch with the ability to love.
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    Oct 22, 2009 9:22 AM GMT
    Seeing rare events like this makes me proud to be a veteran, and an American.

    My grandfather had a similar military history. He was a registered Republican, and a Christian, yet he still managed to carry the same beliefs as the gentleman in this video. I always thought it was strange that my hard-ass grandfather was able to rise above it all and embrace me while the rest of my family remained - and still remain - mired in hate that's so thick you can cut it with a knife.

    There are a select group of boys on this site who should pay close attention to what the man in this video had to say: those currently serving in the military or veterans filled with so much self loathing, ignorance and hate that they feel it's justified to prohibit gay men and women from being protected equally under the law (you know who you are). If you want to continue with the self-flagellation ... fine, but perhaps you should think long and hard about why you feel the way you do. Stop making excuses and step up to the plate.
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    Oct 22, 2009 9:53 AM GMT
    Could a message of love and equality be more simple or effective? I sniffed at least a few times and then reflected on his warnings of the horrors of intolerance. Right now far right neo-conservatives and extremist christians on the march again in Europe, and the fight to win the right-to-marry could so easily, in places like Poland, Hungary and increasingly Italy, become a battle for the right to live as a gay person. I hope this speech reaches a worldwide audience.
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:09 AM GMT
    I think old people are totally cute icon_biggrin.gif But this guy has my heart ^^
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:10 AM GMT
    I was one of the lucky who married in California when it was legal. This video makes me cry when I think of how the injustice of inequality continues today in the 21st century. Thank you for posting!
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    Oct 22, 2009 2:04 PM GMT



    That's powerful. If this man is not listened to, then those not listening have their ears stopped up. He tells en excellent cautionary tale - not one family in the US is immune to the possibility of having a gay child.
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    Oct 22, 2009 2:07 PM GMT
    I'm from Maine and when I turned 18 I joined THAT Republican party not the disgusting mockery it has become. I swear if Teddy Roosevelt were alive today he would kill most republicans with his bare hands.
  • swogdog

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    Oct 22, 2009 2:13 PM GMT
    I actually shed tears watching this. There is a kind of simple truth and nobility in the argument of equality for all, that when I hear it expressed by someone who put their life on the line to protect it, and who has not allowed that simple idea to become corrupted with exceptions to the rule, it makes me weep.
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    Oct 22, 2009 2:18 PM GMT

    "How unfair that merely being accepted into the world should make us cry."


    ..yet how wonderful and undamaged of us that we can, and do!

    Life is unfair, and what are great people but a way of rectifying that huge injustice of unfair existence. This veteran is an example of that - to right a wrong.

    And how wonderful too, that those accepting us can see our tears and feel justified in their acceptance of us, and indeed, like this veteran, go to bat for us!
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    Oct 22, 2009 2:22 PM GMT
    Yes, this reminds of my granddad (died last year). From rural Kansas, went to West Point, served in Europe... and passionately fought for civil rights his entire career. He was the proud father of a gay son and 3 gay grandchildren!
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    Oct 22, 2009 3:25 PM GMT
    These tears aren't about pride, they're about the release of emotional energy. When long-standing walls come down the sudden release of emotional energy can motivate tears. I think many of us have walls to protect us from people we think will be of harm to us in some way. Bigots protect themselves from the "others", and we in turn protect ourselves from them. When they drop their guard, it may motivate us to drop ours, and release happens on both sides.

    I cried because I live with silly assumptions about people - assumptions like "world war II vets don't like homosexuals". It must have been a subconscious assumption, one created by my associations with family and friends who are much like this man but who hold different views. When I heard his speech it must have pushed at that wall and it came down. I cried.

    You're a fool if you think by denying what we feel we become, in some way, better men. It's a painful mental state that will target your own feelings and behaviors as much or more than it will others.
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    Oct 22, 2009 3:58 PM GMT
    This man gets my vote for "Man of the Year". What a proud example of love for everyone that is spoken in his words. OK, I will not cry....icon_cry.gif Sorry, I get emotional when I hear words of acceptance and love.
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    Oct 22, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    It's not so much about emotional energy here... it's about what people from generations past have learned. The Second World War was fought on some sides for evil ideals built on notions of superiority over others. America's boys went to war because of the good they felt they represented. The good that this veteran talks about: equality and freedom.

    That all men are created equal, and are bestowed with inalienable rights. Hitler deprived equality from other human beings but the boys at Omaha spilled their guts on foreign sand for freedom and equality to reign back home and ultimately abroad.

    The video is one of pleading and reprimand, the admonition that what countless gave their lives for yesterday was so we can continue the ideals in our lives today. Not take them away, not keep them from others, but to remind ourselves that we can debate them in the spirit of those who died to uphold them. It should never have been forgotten.