I'm pimping out my dog....

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    Oct 22, 2009 6:13 PM GMT
    Okay that's not exactly what's happening. I have a dog that I am thinking about putting out to stud. I'd be grateful for some advice from those of you who have bred your dog before about what to do and how to proceed.

    Just so you know, he does have a pedigree, but he is not yet registered with the AKC yet. Also, he's only a year old, and probably not physically mature yet.

    So, where do I start?
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    Oct 22, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
    Oh - - I thought you meant you were heading out to a Starbucks or Peet's Coffee with your dog to be the star attraction at an umbrella table on the patio - looking good - with all the hot available men coming over to meet your dog........and YOU!

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    And uh - - - yes, I've used my chow dog and am guilty of the same thing! It worked though!
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    Oct 22, 2009 7:27 PM GMT
    There are more than enough domestic animals in the world. I think you should not stud him out.
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    Oct 22, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidOkay that's not exactly what's happening. I have a dog that I am thinking about putting out to stud. I'd be grateful for some advice from those of you who have bred your dog before about what to do and how to proceed.

    Just so you know, he does have a pedigree, but he is not yet registered with the AKC yet. Also, he's only a year old, and probably not physically mature yet.

    So, where do I start?


    The first place to start is to register the dog. Noone serious about breeding will bother to breed to a dog that isn't registered. I have several dogs that stand at stud and one thing that is important to someone willing to pay a stud fee is not only how well the dogs ancesctors have done in the showring or obedience trials, but how well the dog himself has done in the show ring.
    Also there is a tendancy not to breed to a dog that doesn't show a Ch within three generations in its pedigree. Some breeders are very selective. Another thing that I would do if you arn't going to put the dog in the show ring ( an expensive proposition) is make sure that the dog is an exceptional specimen of his breed, a serious breeder certainly will! You should know some basic genetics and some more in depth where the particular breed and it's traits are concerned. You need to find out what the rate in your area is for studs of that particular breed and the price that quality pups bring as often times part of the deal is the owner of the stud gets pick of the litter which can leave you with pups you don't want or cannot sale. If you have some of the more unusual breeds it can be worth it, if it's a common breed it may not be so easy to stand the dog nor sale the pups. Once you get that far the work is just starting. Good Luck
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    Oct 22, 2009 8:21 PM GMT
    This is really not the best idea unless your dog is an exceptional specimen. Thousands of dogs/cats (many of which are purebreeds, some even registered) are euthanized daily for lack of homes. The last thing the world needs is more puppies.
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    Oct 22, 2009 8:39 PM GMT
    IdkMyBffJill saidThis is really not the best idea unless your dog is an exceptional specimen. Thousands of dogs/cats (many of which are purebreeds, some even registered) are euthanized daily for lack of homes. The last thing the world needs is more puppies.


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    Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM GMT
    Don't do it. Honestly ... it is a pain in the ass - and I know what I'm doing and have two really nice/sought after studs.

    Have shown and bred Cocker Spaniels for 15 years. In all cases - there is a signed contract spelling out exactly what is expected from all parties. Some of wanted to give me pick of the litter in lieu of money...but am not interested in more dogs. Even with a contract ... it can turn ugly.

    When breeding - I will only breed the boys to approved bitches. I want to see a five generation pedigree, discuss the bitches faults, what they are hoping for in this breeding, health cert's within the last 12 months, etc. My stud contract guarantees at minimum one live puppy. No puppy - they can have one repeat breeding to the same bitch on her next cycle or on an approved bitch. No cash back.

    I have other rates frozen or chilled semen for an AI.
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    Oct 22, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    FRONT2BACK saidDon't do it. Honestly ... it is a pain in the ass - and I know what I'm doing and have two really nice/sought after studs.

    Have shown and bred Cocker Spaniels for 15 years. In all cases - there is a signed contract spelling out exactly what is expected from all parties. Some of wanted to give me pick of the litter in lieu of money...but am not interested in more dogs. Even with a contract ... it can turn ugly.

    When breeding - I will only breed the boys to approved bitches. I want to see a five generation pedigree, discuss the bitches faults, what they are hoping for in this breeding, health cert's within the last 12 months, etc. My stud contract guarantees at minimum one live puppy. No puppy - they can have one repeat breeding to the same bitch on her next cycle or on an approved bitch. No cash back.

    I have other rates frozen or chilled semen for an AI.


    Amen! I agree. Even with contracts and only accepting approved bitches it can get crazy. I've been breeding dogs and horses all my life and it's a tricky business and really not for the back yard breeder. There is a lot that goes into itand it's usually more work and responsiblity than the average person wants.
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    Oct 22, 2009 9:48 PM GMT
    Go to a vet they can help you out.

    And hey guys if he wants to pimp out the dog let him, maybe he wants one for when that one dies.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 22, 2009 11:25 PM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 saidGo to a vet they can help you out.

    And hey guys if he wants to pimp out the dog let him, maybe he wants one for when that one dies.icon_rolleyes.gif


    The irony in your comment is that I can almost guarantee the vet is going to strongly advise that he not breed the dog. Like others have said, there are too many dogs that need homes-- this world does not need more puppies. Get the dog fixed, if anything.
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    Oct 22, 2009 11:28 PM GMT
    Gilbercrat said
    Space_Cowboy_89 saidGo to a vet they can help you out.

    And hey guys if he wants to pimp out the dog let him, maybe he wants one for when that one dies.icon_rolleyes.gif


    The irony in your comment is that I can almost guarantee the vet is going to strongly advise that he not breed the dog. Like others have said, there are too many dogs that need homes-- this world does not need more puppies. Get the dog fixed, if anything.


    True but if he wants it he's going to get it, not much Irony there icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 23, 2009 12:11 AM GMT
    I have a beagle. A gay guy I know has a beagle. He would like to use my dog to stud his. I figured why not. They are not registered but yeah. My little boy is the shit! I some times people just want a dog and don't care or can't pay for the papers. Hum... $800 or $120? Yeah I'll take the 120 cause that is exactly what Ive paid for the best full-breed dog Ive ever had. My all time best dog was a Chocolate Lab/Husky Mix.
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:26 AM GMT
    IdkMyBffJill saidThis is really not the best idea unless your dog is an exceptional specimen. Thousands of dogs/cats (many of which are purebreeds, some even registered) are euthanized daily for lack of homes. The last thing the world needs is more puppies.


    I couldn't agree more!!
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:29 AM GMT
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:32 AM GMT
    shybuffguy saidI've been breeding dogs and horses all my life and it's a tricky business and really not for the back yard breeder.
    icon_eek.gif I bet! what is the resulting breed? A Dorse?
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:44 AM GMT
    McGay saidThere are more than enough domestic animals in the world. I think you should not stud him out.


    Hey guys your right but I thought you were going to do that for me icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:56 AM GMT
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    shybuffguy saidI've been breeding dogs and horses all my life and it's a tricky business and really not for the back yard breeder.
    icon_eek.gif I bet! what is the resulting breed? A Dorse?

    Either that or a Hog.
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    Oct 23, 2009 8:33 AM GMT
    Any advise I give I want a 20% comission!!

    I am the master PIMP you know!!
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    Oct 23, 2009 12:08 PM GMT
    Thanks guys. Glad I asked first.... it does indeed seem like more work than I had first imagined. I had no idea people could be so damn picky with their stud too! Not sure I want to sign myself up for THAT drama.

    Time to call the vet about that "special operation" I guess.
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:19 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidThanks guys. Glad I asked first.... it does indeed seem like more work than I had first imagined. I had no idea people could be so damn picky with their stud too! Not sure I want to sign myself up for THAT drama.

    Time to call the vet about that "special operation" I guess.


    OH GOD NO! Just dont stud him. lol thats horrible. I would never want to have my balls cut or be given a circumcision.. no way I could do either to my son much less my little boy Kael. I heart my puppy too much. lol
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
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    SAHEM62896 saidThanks guys. Glad I asked first.... it does indeed seem like more work than I had first imagined. I had no idea people could be so damn picky with their stud too! Not sure I want to sign myself up for THAT drama.

    Time to call the vet about that "special operation" I guess.


    OH GOD NO! Just dont stud him. lol thats horrible. I would never want to have my balls cut or be given a circumcision.. no way I could do either to my son much less my little boy Kael. I heart my puppy too much. lol


    I understand.... but from what I have been told, chihuahuas are especially susceptible to testicular cancer, so it's preventative for that and also to prevent an unwanted doggy pregnancy. Given how mischievous he can be, I would want to avoid that as well.

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    Oct 23, 2009 5:02 PM GMT
    You'd be more likely to see a testicular cancer in a toy breed that has an undecended testis...and if you have that - you have a genetic defect and he shouldn't be breed anyway.

    Neutering is the right way to go. He'll be up and running around in a matter of hours.
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    Oct 23, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
    I have no doubt of it. Thanks again guys!
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    Oct 24, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    OH THANK GOD!! You're only putting him out to stud service....I thought you meant "pimp" like this:

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    Oct 24, 2009 2:23 AM GMT
    zotamorf62 said
    ActiveAndFit said
    shybuffguy saidI've been breeding dogs and horses all my life and it's a tricky business and really not for the back yard breeder.
    icon_eek.gif I bet! what is the resulting breed? A Dorse?

    Either that or a Hog.
    Yeah but that name is already taken icon_sad.gif