Senate passed the Matthew Shepard Act today, it's going to Obama's desk

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    Oct 22, 2009 10:34 PM GMT
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/22/hate.crimes/index.html
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
    He is all talk. When is Obama going to do anything for our communi.... oh. Carry on Mr. President. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 22, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
    Here's another link. http://blogs.jta.org/politics/article/2009/10/22/1008671/senate-approves-hate-crimes-bill

    Now, the gay community just needs to spam the sh*t out of the White House.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 23, 2009 12:15 AM GMT
    Glad to hear it all. It should be BIG news when he signs it.... hopefully SOON!

  • kinetic

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    Oct 23, 2009 12:16 AM GMT
    YAY! That is great news ^_^ !
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    Oct 23, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
    im happy but until he stops defending DOMA and DADT ill be more inclinded to support him. Its bad enough I don't like almost ANY of his policy and think he doesnt have the balls God gave a gnat and I voted for the other guy. hillary was right about him. ive said it from the beginning and if he doesnt grow a set soon the demcorats can kiss their majority goodbye.
  • Anto

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    Oct 23, 2009 1:22 AM GMT
    Obama needs to do a lot more than sign something that a bunch of other people worked to put through onto his desk.. icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:07 AM GMT
    Anto saidObama needs to do a lot more than sign something that a bunch of other people worked to put through onto his desk.. icon_confused.gif

    Amen
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew said
    Anto saidObama needs to do a lot more than sign something that a bunch of other people worked to put through onto his desk.. icon_confused.gif

    Amen


    So when Congress doesn't come through on something Obama promised... it's Obama's fault.

    And when Congress does come through.... you don't give him any credit.

    Double standard, any one?? Jesus...


    This is amazing news! I'm thrilled we finally managed to get an inclusive hate crimes bill through Congress. Baby steps toward a better future.
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
    This is great news with 4 republicans voting for it and the balance of the party of no voting against it. Go repugs, your boat is getting closer and closer to sinking !!! Some of you guys need to be more patient about getting things done for we gays, there are a lot bigger issues at stake now than our interests, such as our military guys and gals whose futures are at stake depending on Obama's measured and agonizing decisions. Also are all those folks whose health and future financial stabilty depends on healthcare reforms being passed. Things are moving in the right direction for us and patience will prove worthwhile, I am sure. So give it time.
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:30 AM GMT
    t0theheights said
    Ryan_Andrew said
    Anto saidObama needs to do a lot more than sign something that a bunch of other people worked to put through onto his desk.. icon_confused.gif

    Amen


    So when Congress doesn't come through on something Obama promised... it's Obama's fault.

    And when Congress does come through.... you don't give him any credit.

    Double standard, any one?? Jesus...


    This is amazing news! I'm thrilled we finally managed to get an inclusive hate crimes bill through Congress. Baby steps toward a better future.


    Since we have a troll, I figure I'll be open with the email I got from him and my response and let my response stand as my reply to this.

    "From: t0theheights
    To: Ryan_Andrew
    Subject: Matt Shepherd Act...
    Date:Oct 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM

    So when Congress doesn't come through on something Obama promised... it's Obama's fault.

    And when Congress does come through.... you don't give him any credit.

    Double standard, any one?? Jesus..."

    My reply:
    "Im just curious how you derived that that would be my opinion. That hate crime bill has been in the works for YEARS. Actually since the Bush administration and the fact that the democrats had to circumvent the republicans by placing it in to a Defense apparitions bill says something about the votes being there for it. If it was so important why not have the president or ANYONE for that matter come out and push it as an independent bill? Just something to think about. He hardly promised anything about this bill. He just said he would sign it. Im hoping he signs it and does more. Congress might not do something he promised however it would be much better and I would give him far more credit if I saw him going down there and getting the democrats all up in one room and actually bitching them out and getting them to go with what he wants since after all he is the big dog or rather supposed to be. You troll dude. Don't put words or ASSumptions in my mouth without fully understanding something. If you'd like a clarification than ask for one."
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    Its about it passed!
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:47 AM GMT
    One more thing: I have a case building against a neighbor whom among other things to has been rather racial to my family and but now attacking me and threatening me for being gay and insinuated that he would do something to me outside a known gay establishment (luckily that I don't frequent). So prop to it getting down now I have something to after his ass with however still... much more needs to be done. Example... turn over DOMA, over turn DADT, and don't have Eric Holder sending in someone to write briefs or support either policy if you wish for them to be over turned.

    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2009/09/DOJ_Defends_DOMA_Again/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/12/obama-defends-antigay-def_n_214764.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/08/supreme-court-rejects-cha_n_212534.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/08/AR2009060801368.html

    would you like a few more? Im sure I could find a few on RJ if I looked hard enough.
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    Christ-
    There is going to be a huge outcry if he does not sign it.
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    Oct 23, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    Obama has said he will sign it.
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:01 AM GMT
    I'll believe it when he does it.
    He has been all bark and no bite afterall.
    thanks though. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:54 AM GMT
    Diffident_Sunshine saidI'll believe it when he does it.
    He has been all bark and no bite afterall.
    thanks though. icon_biggrin.gif


    He will sign this one. This one is easy and will not create much of a public uproar. We will have to wait and see what he does if ending DADT and DOMA and anti-discrimination in adoption makes it to his desk.
  • t0theheights

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    Oct 23, 2009 4:30 AM GMT
    Obama's already promised to sign it soon. Thankfully we have a president who is enlightened enough to embrace this legislation (unlike the last one, who pledged to veto it...).
  • GQjock

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    Oct 23, 2009 10:52 AM GMT
    Obama's going to sign this bill as soon as he gets it
    because this gives him cover for the poor performance he's given for us on gay issues with little political cost
    His signing a hate crimes bill isn't going to get him any bad press or cost him any political capital unlike that for DADT or asking for the repeal of DOMA
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    Oct 23, 2009 1:34 PM GMT
    Please don't take my statement in the wrong way. Reading the last few posts, though, I'm reminded this IS attached to the Defense Appropriations Bill, is it not? I'd imagine the bigger issue in the President's not signing the Bill would be the undermining of the military personnel involved in two wars at this time, not holding up on the bill because of the Hate Crimes addendum that would pass along with the appropriations. I doubt this President would send the Bill back.
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    Oct 23, 2009 1:48 PM GMT
    Ryan Andrew,

    If your neighbor has threatened you with bodily harm that is considered and terrorist threat and you should consult the authorities and the have to act on it. It's federal law. You already have all the evidence you need. Have you even conatcted the authorities. You should also file a TRO(temporary restraining order)
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:03 PM GMT
    t0theheights saidObama's already promised to sign it soon. Thankfully we have a president who is enlightened enough to embrace this legislation (unlike the last one, who pledged to veto it...).


    And on that note... a more conservative congress last session actually passed it however as you just said BUSH vetoed it. So tell me what gain was actually made? If im not mistake too the last time it passed as a single bill by itself and not attached to anything.
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:04 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidRyan Andrew,

    If your neighbor has threatened you with bodily harm that is considered and terrorist threat and you should consult the authorities and the have to act on it. It's federal law. You already have all the evidence you need. Have you even conatcted the authorities. You should also file a TRO(temporary restraining order)


    Better than than that... I have video and audio of it. PD is working on it. Im waiting for O to sign this. Should be more than enough though to kick him and the horse he rode in on outta here. Also know that I live in Texas. =|
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:10 PM GMT
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    Ryan_Andrew said
    Anto saidObama needs to do a lot more than sign something that a bunch of other people worked to put through onto his desk.. icon_confused.gif

    Amen


    So when Congress doesn't come through on something Obama promised... it's Obama's fault.

    And when Congress does come through.... you don't give him any credit.

    Double standard, any one?? Jesus...


    This is amazing news! I'm thrilled we finally managed to get an inclusive hate crimes bill through Congress. Baby steps toward a better future.


    Couldn't agree more. I think if there is one thing Obama has it is balls.
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:24 PM GMT
    ha are you serious? wow... id like to know where and how he has proven that to you cause I know for certain more than this inquiring mind would like to know. HELL... EVEN SNL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW!

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/99945/saturday-night-live-obama-address#s-p2-sr-i1

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/oct/05/saturday-night-live-obama-campaign-promises/

    yeah... got some balls. big hairy cojones. note: I'm being sarcastic. very sarcastic.