Hate Crimes Bill passes Senate

  • metta

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    Oct 22, 2009 11:19 PM GMT



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    With a strong bi-partisan vote (68-29), the US Senate has passed the Dept of Defense Authorization Bill that includes the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. The bill will now be sent over to President Obama where he has said he looks forward to signing the bill.

    Please join us at the Palm Springs Garden Party 11/7 with special guest Judy Shepard where you can congratulate her in person for all her hardwork in getting this legislation passed.



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  • treader

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    Oct 22, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    Fantastic News! It's about time. Obama will be in Boston tomorrow (Friday) we'll have to bug him to sign it. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 22, 2009 11:42 PM GMT
    RIP Matthew.

    This is FANTASTIC new! I started applauding over lunch when the news flash came onto CNN.
  • CAtoFL

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    Oct 22, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    I'm only going if we get to sing this the day after:



    But in all seriousness ... GREAT NEWS!
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    Oct 22, 2009 11:45 PM GMT
    This will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.
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    Oct 23, 2009 12:01 AM GMT
    Neophoenician saidThis will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.


    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/22/hate.crimes/index.html

    According to the CNN link above, Obama pledged to do so after the bill had passed the House of Reps. Personally, I think that he will sign it. The bill is a large defense bill and the Hate Crimes portion actually includes protection for Jewish populations as well. I think he has no reason not to sign it.
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    Oct 23, 2009 12:17 AM GMT
    My neighbor better watch his mouth and his actions and O sign this shit fast. Ive got a case file about 3 inches thick.
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    Oct 23, 2009 3:37 AM GMT
    Good! Maybe it will finally send a signal that you will not get a free pass for killing or beating someone just because that someone is gay. I hope it did not get watered down or anything.
  • Barricade

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    Oct 23, 2009 3:41 AM GMT
    Great News and long overdue!
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:03 AM GMT
    hey welcome back, it's been a while
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:38 AM GMT
    Neophoenician saidThis will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.


    This is an easy one though. It was clearly passed with Republican help (though dominated by Dems I give them credit for that). But I'm sure Bush would have signed it too.
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:39 AM GMT
    north_runner said
    Neophoenician saidThis will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.


    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/22/hate.crimes/index.html

    According to the CNN link above, Obama pledged to do so after the bill had passed the House of Reps. Personally, I think that he will sign it. The bill is a large defense bill and the Hate Crimes portion actually includes protection for Jewish populations as well. I think he has no reason not to sign it.


    Wait what? Jews weren't protected before? lol figures.
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    Oct 23, 2009 4:53 AM GMT
    JakeBenson saidWait what? Jews weren't protected before? lol figures.
    Don't worry mi hijo, we will protect you
  • spinningguy

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    Oct 23, 2009 5:25 AM GMT
    JakeBenson said
    Neophoenician saidThis will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.


    This is an easy one though. It was clearly passed with Republican help (though dominated by Dems I give them credit for that). But I'm sure Bush would have signed it too.


    Not so fast Jake: From CNN in 2007

    President Bush has threatened to veto a bill passed by the House of Representatives on Thursday that expands hate-crime laws to include attacks based on sexual orientation or gender.

    Under current law, hate crimes are subject to federal prosecution only if the acts of violence are motivated by race, religion, color or national origin. Federal prosecutors get involved only if the victim is engaged in a federally protected activity, such as voting or participating in interstate commerce.

    The White House says there is no need for the expanded bill because state and local laws already cover the crimes it addresses, and there is no need for federal enforcement.

    In addition to allowing greater leeway for federal law enforcement authorities to investigate hate crimes, the House bill -- which was passed on a 237-180 vote --provides $10 million over the next two years to aid local prosecutions.
  • santz7

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    Oct 23, 2009 9:20 AM GMT
    metta8 said


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    With a strong bi-partisan vote (68-29), the US Senate has passed the Dept of Defense Authorization Bill that includes the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act. The bill will now be sent over to President Obama where he has said he looks forward to signing the bill.

    Please join us at the Palm Springs Garden Party 11/7 with special guest Judy Shepard where you can congratulate her in person for all her hardwork in getting this legislation passed.



    http://oclbps.hrc.org/psgardenparty
    Wonderfull news.. tank you for the the inputicon_biggrin.gif


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    Oct 23, 2009 10:08 AM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/22/AR2009102204689.html

    I heart Judy Shepard for all of her hard work.

    Obama promised us that he would sign this. I have faith that he will. It's a step in the right direction.

    Check this out (from the link). Conservatives think that expanding this bill will ... oh, never mind. Read it for yourself:

    "Social conservatives said the hate crimes bill would violate the First Amendment, and would be a step toward a larger gay rights agenda they oppose.

    "Expanding hate crimes puts America in lock step with the stated agenda of homosexual activists who will turn next to the so-called Employment Non-Discrimination Act, followed by the repeal of the ban on homosexuality in the military and then the Defense of Marriage Act," the Family Research Council warned on its Web site.

    Religious groups have also complained that the measure could criminalize the act of criticizing or preaching against homosexuality, but the bill's backers and the administration contend that is a misinterpretation of the legislation.

    Separately, congressional Republicans objected to the process used to move the bill, saying that Democrats attached the hate crimes language to the defense authorization measure as a ploy to dare them to vote against it.

    "It's a shame that this piece of legislation was added to a bill that's supposed to be about supporting our troops," said Sen. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.). "
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    Oct 24, 2009 8:12 PM GMT
    spinningguy said
    JakeBenson said
    Neophoenician saidThis will definitely be a game changer for Obama, since if he signs it, he can then point to one actual concrete accomplishment out of the promises he made to the LGBT community during the 2008 campaign. Up until now, all he could do was re-state the same old promises without any results to show for it.


    This is an easy one though. It was clearly passed with Republican help (though dominated by Dems I give them credit for that). But I'm sure Bush would have signed it too.


    Not so fast Jake: From CNN in 2007

    President Bush has threatened to veto a bill passed by the House of Representatives on Thursday that expands hate-crime laws to include attacks based on sexual orientation or gender.

    Under current law, hate crimes are subject to federal prosecution only if the acts of violence are motivated by race, religion, color or national origin. Federal prosecutors get involved only if the victim is engaged in a federally protected activity, such as voting or participating in interstate commerce.

    The White House says there is no need for the expanded bill because state and local laws already cover the crimes it addresses, and there is no need for federal enforcement.

    In addition to allowing greater leeway for federal law enforcement authorities to investigate hate crimes, the House bill -- which was passed on a 237-180 vote --provides $10 million over the next two years to aid local prosecutions.


    Oh Touche. You won that argument hands down. ;)
  • metta

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    Oct 25, 2009 2:16 AM GMT


    Hate Crimes Bill Conference

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    Here is a longer version of the speech