Leaving for the Navy soon. Any current/former military service members or general members advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Oct 24, 2009 3:22 AM GMT
    I am leaving for the Navy in a couple of months and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice? This could range from what to expect in boot camp to tips on hooking up while serving our your experiences. Thank you for your time.
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    Oct 24, 2009 4:51 AM GMT
    My son is in the Navy, and went through basic at Great Lakes on Lake Michigan just north of Chicago. You may go there. Through my sons return visits home with friends I learned a lot from what they had to say about their experiences. (particularly during basic training) One of the main things to remember is don't bring attention to yourself by being adversarial even when you may be in the right. In this setting Your platoon leader is 'always' right, do as he says without question. You do not want to be pegged as a noncomformist, cause if you get on their list they will pick you out for 'special' attention and they will break you and form you into what they expect of you, and may make your life hell in the process. During this time the only way you want their attention put on you is for your following orders immediately, or because your physically fit and can endure whats dished out with a good can do attitude. You'll do fine with little trouble if you keep these things in mind. Good luck !!!! be sure to let us know how your doing !!!
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    Oct 24, 2009 4:54 AM GMT
    Twenty-eight and leaving for the navy?
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    Oct 24, 2009 9:27 AM GMT
    I am one year shy of getting my Bachelors degree and have taking some time off of school. I have always thought about joining the service and wanted to do so before I was unable to due to my age. Yes, I will be 28 going in but will also be going in as an E-3 for Air Traffic Control.
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    Oct 24, 2009 10:57 AM GMT
    phemt saidTwenty-eight and leaving for the navy?


    Why not?
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    Oct 24, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
    realifedad said My son is in the Navy, and went through basic at Great Lakes on Lake Michigan just north of Chicago. You may go there. Through my sons return visits home with friends I learned a lot from what they had to say about their experiences. (particularly during basic training) One of the main things to remember is don't bring attention to yourself by being adversarial even when you may be in the right. In this setting Your platoon leader is 'always' right, do as he says without question. You do not want to be pegged as a noncomformist, cause if you get on their list they will pick you out for 'special' attention and they will break you and form you into what they expect of you, and may make your life hell in the process. During this time the only way you want their attention put on you is for your following orders immediately, or because your physically fit and can endure whats dished out with a good can do attitude. You'll do fine with little trouble if you keep these things in mind. Good luck !!!! be sure to let us know how your doing !!!


    I served 6 years here. and what he said is pretty much right. Try not to be the guy to "stick out" in boot camp. It will make the difference from your experience being a shitty one to a good one. Especially the part if you know youre in the right, dont argue just yes sir no mam and youll be fine. boot camp not matter what service is all about mind games and weeding out those that dont have what it takes and keeping the team players.

    When you get the chance to write to your family and friends i encourage you to do it and have them send you letters in return, it helps the time go by. It sucks being the guy during mail call not getting any kind of support from back home, especially being in a new environment with people you dont know and drill instructors riding your back 24/7.

    And I cant stress this enough, try not to ge on anyones shitlist in basic, you never know when someone next to you might get put in the position of squad leader or youre in a situation where you have to depend on them to help you out. The sooner people start realizing they have to work together basic is that much more easier.

    If you are weak at something like shining boots or making the bed or whatever, find someone in your platoon/flight or whatever that is good at that and become their friend fast and have them do that for you in return you do something for them youre good at and theyre bad at. Everyone came to me in basic for boots in return i had other do my bed.

    I dont know how the navy does it but id like to think its similar rules in the mess hall(cafeteria). Whatever you DONT look around always head and eyes straight forward or you will get smoked (made to do pushups and plenty of em). this applies to while youre marching in formation or going to and from anywhere. Dont eat too slow or too fast. I know in the air force if anyone at your table in the mess hall stood up EVERYONE at that table had to get up and go as well. you will piss off alot of peoplle if you eat too fast or get reamed if you eat too slow and stay there too long(more mind games).

    Everything in basic is like a fight for time. when you shower be prepared to basically brush your teeth, shower, shave and crap in less than 5 minutes. they wont give you the luxury of taking as long as you like.

    Thats all i can think of for now. keep in mind that was part of my experience for the air force i know it will vary from service to service but for the most part the mind games and the constant state of hurry up and wait is universal through all branches.


    If you have any other questions feel free to message me.
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    Oct 24, 2009 3:00 PM GMT
    By the way, thanks to you guys who have served in the military for us, or like Curious_WI who are going in to serve very soon. You deserve our thanks !!!!
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    Oct 24, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
    curious_WI saidI am leaving for the Navy in a couple of months and was wondering if anyone could give me any advice? This could range from what to expect in boot camp to tips on hooking up while serving our your experiences. Thank you for your time.

    My Army basic training was 40 years ago, so little is likely to be the same procedurally with the Navy today. But I also enlisted as you have, not drafted, and here's a few philosophical things that helped me get through it:

    - When some abusive Drill Sergeant got in my face, screaming at me at the top of his lungs, I reminded myself that I had chosen this. I wasn't forced into it against my will, like a draftee, but rather had freely taken an oath to allow guys like this to order me around.

    And I told myself: "He only has power over you because you gave it to him. And if you don't like it, then don't blame him, but blame yourself. He's just doing the job you allowed him to do."

    A mind game, no doubt, but it helped me to accept the total authority over me that the Sergeants in basic training had. They had no authority that I had not myself agreed they could have. Think about it.

    - When things got really tough, when I was wet and freezing cold, tired to death and hanging on by a thread, I reminded myself that it all had to end shortly. This was not for eternity, but just a miserable interlude that could not continue indefinitely.

    Eventually we'd be returning to our barracks, taking a warm shower, getting into clean clothes, having a regular meal, sleeping in our bunks. All along I knew it was merely scheduled training, that had to end eventually. I could go through any torment standing on my head when I knew it was just temporary. When you're experiencing it, you tend to think it will never end. Using your intellect will tell you it's merely passing, and very unlikely to kill you.

    I used this very logic years later, when as an Army Major (US Navy Lt. Commander equivalent rank) I taught college ROTC Cadets who would be future officers. It worked for them, and it will work for you.

    My sincere respect & admiration for you, and my wishes for your greatest success & happiness. I can tell you my 25 years in the Army were among the happiest in my life, and I wish I could still be wearing a uniform today. You are an American Hero by the very act of putting on the uniform of your country. Make us all proud, and my best to you!
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    Oct 24, 2009 5:06 PM GMT
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    phemt saidTwenty-eight and leaving for the navy?


    Why not?



    Nothing wrong with it. I was just totally unaware that one could enlist at such an age. The few enlisted people I know were always younger.

    My father and Grandfather were both Navy. Go Navy icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 24, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    "- When some abusive Drill Sergeant got in my face, screaming at me at the top of his lungs, I reminded myself that I had chosen this. I wasn't forced into it against my will, like a draftee, but rather had freely taken an oath to allow guys like this to order me around.

    And I told myself: "He only has power over you because you gave it to him. And if you don't like it, then don't blame him, but blame yourself. He's just doing the job you allowed him to do."


    Believe it or not Everything they do is for a reason. The screaming believe it or not is for a reason too. they just dont do it because theyre evil human beings and they hate you. Just put it this way, If you cant learn to handle someone screaming at you, how are you going to react to a real life situation without you freaking out or breaking down where an emergency is going on and people are screaming at you for real reasons and need you to understand the urgency of a situation like getting your chem gear on within a seconds notice or getting something done as fast but as accurately possible because your mission depends on it.
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    Oct 24, 2009 7:42 PM GMT
    My Drill Sergeants were freakin hallarious. It was all just a game to me. I learned what I needed to and got the most out of it...but its one big mind game. I enjoyed the hell out of basic training and still enjoy being in the service to this day.
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    Oct 24, 2009 7:53 PM GMT
    After 20 years in the navy I'd say, get through boot camp, and whatever school you have.

    If you want to be "lost in a crowd" choose a large command, like an Aircraft Carrier. If you work well with people and are good (or want to develope lots of intense personal relationships) choose a Frigate or Destroyer.

    Each Command is different, and the character can change after a few years. My last ship was a Frigate and there was a small gay contingent, everybody "knew" about us, and was completely accepting of us. Well, that and our unofficial motto was "Underway, it's not gay".

    There have been, in the past, commands where guys were beat up, or killed because they were gay. This seems to be larger commands, where there isn't a connection between people. Smaller commands are "tighter knit" and on a Frigate or Destroyer you need every last man to make it work, because of that, and because everybody knows everybody else, you become a much more vital cog in the machine a lot quicker, and if you do good work, show up on time, and play well with others, a few indescretions now and then, or here and there will be easier to get through.

    That's just my experiance.

    Fair winds, following seas, and may what you hold sacred keep you safe.
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    Jul 07, 2012 2:43 PM GMT
    similar situation here, im 27 and leavin for boot camp in 5 months....any advice???
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    Jul 07, 2012 2:48 PM GMT
    mrxtrpro15 saidsimilar situation here, im 27 and leavin for boot camp in 5 months....any advice???


    Try contacting the OP. Assuming he made it through training, he has been in the Navy for two and a half years now.

    Seriously though, just make sure you are physically very fit and mentally alert. You cannot really do anything else to prepare yourself for basic training. Just go with the flow and enjoy.
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    Jul 07, 2012 3:22 PM GMT
    Just remember basic is the first of many games you will be "playing". Its also the worst part of the service. Most of all the job of your T.I. (not sure what they are called in the Navy) is a joke. They say the most hilarious things, well at least mine did.
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    Jul 07, 2012 3:47 PM GMT
    yeah i already have
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    Jul 07, 2012 3:54 PM GMT
    Oh my fucking god do they seriously train you fuckers to follow silly orders like obedient little sheep?
    As if I didn't have enough reason to hate the military/army/navy/air force/whatever and think of those who serve as fucking idiots.
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    Jul 07, 2012 3:57 PM GMT
    mrxtrpro15 saidsimilar situation here, im 27 and leavin for boot camp in 5 months....any advice???

    Navy, too? Well, whatever service component, remember that millions of quite ordinary guys & gals have done what you're about to do. It's neither easy nor all that difficult. The failure rate is very low, the self-satisfaction rate very high.

    Mental attitude is everything. And so if you remind yourself that this is what you chose, what you want, you'll thrive on it despite anything they throw at you.

    I envy you the experience I had over 40 years ago. And salute your patriotic service. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 07, 2012 4:14 PM GMT
    rmd210 recently finished USN boot camp. You might want to drop him a line:

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2415502