UK attitudes to being gay

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    Oct 29, 2009 11:07 AM GMT
    It has been interesting being back in the UK after so many years away. One thing, especially after living in the USA, is how amazingly more advanced the society here is in terms of acceptance of homosexuality.

    When Stephen Gately, the boyzone star, died recently this horrible article was published in one of the most conservative popular papers, which is basically critical of civil partnerships

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1220756/A-strange-lonely-troubling-death--.html

    The author has since been massively condemned, there were over 22,000 comments so far, 7000 in the first afternoon. Major sponsors pulled ads, and she has been forced to back pedal, saying she was not wanting to be homophobic, and is now generally seen as a nasty bitch.

    I can´t imagine that happening in the USA.
  • Timbales

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    Oct 29, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
    I can.
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    Oct 29, 2009 12:29 PM GMT
    On the other hand there is a trainee policeman critically ill after homophobic gang attack in Liverpool


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oct/26/trainee-policeman-homophobic-attack-liverpool
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    Oct 29, 2009 2:14 PM GMT
    Im actually surprsied at this. I figured europe being so liberal that it would have been much easier to be gay... or maybe thats just le French... no idea. icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 29, 2009 2:34 PM GMT
    I love the UK I'm moving there after college I'm done the US right now.
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    Oct 29, 2009 6:54 PM GMT
    Ryan_Andrew saidIm actually surprsied at this. I figured europe being so liberal that it would have been much easier to be gay... or maybe thats just le French... no idea. icon_eek.gif


    it is vastly easier i think. The statistics for hate crimes have increased, but I have read on the interweb that this may well simply be that more of the crimes are reported whereas before they were just brushed under the carpet. The countries that do best at treating all their citizens as equals are Holland, Spain, Sweden, Norway, Belgium, the UK, France.. etc basically the west and north give equal rights to all tax payers, whereas in the east they are more injust. In most countries anti gay discrimination is illegal.
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    Oct 29, 2009 6:57 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidIt has been interesting being back in the UK after so many years away. One thing, especially after living in the USA, is how amazingly more advanced the society here is in terms of acceptance of homosexuality.


    Except among conservative Muslims living in the UK.
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    Oct 29, 2009 7:02 PM GMT
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    Lostboy saidIt has been interesting being back in the UK after so many years away. One thing, especially after living in the USA, is how amazingly more advanced the society here is in terms of acceptance of homosexuality.


    Except among conservative Muslims living in the UK.


    well duh.. and conservative christians too... but neither group has much influence in the legislation of a secular society. General societal view is much less hostile... maybe not dancing with joy in the Pride Parades pro, but without the baby Jesus telling them that the way to show his love to the world is to stop two people who love each other from getting married type anti....
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    Oct 29, 2009 7:06 PM GMT
    Lostboy said
    JakeBenson said
    Lostboy saidIt has been interesting being back in the UK after so many years away. One thing, especially after living in the USA, is how amazingly more advanced the society here is in terms of acceptance of homosexuality.


    Except among conservative Muslims living in the UK.


    well duh.. and conservative christians too... but neither group has much influence in the legislation of a secular society. General societal view is much less hostile... maybe not dancing with joy in the Pride Parades pro, but without the baby Jesus telling them that the way to show his love to the world is to stop two people who love each other from getting married type anti....


    Yes but conservative Chrstians are dissolving while conservative Muslims are recruiting instead of assimilating. Just wait another 10 years. It'll get worse.
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    Oct 29, 2009 7:14 PM GMT
    Hmmmm.... Newscorp is buying up all the uk media outlets and the media attitudes toward homosexuality are already on the slide to almost that of the USA

    The sun is currently the most widely read newspaper and sky is progressively sliding down to be on par with fox....

    the daily mail is horribly consevative, the times similarly sliding downhill after it was bought up by news corp also and recently allowed a column bashing gays to be published after pride in Ireland, and after they received thousand of complaints and calling for the writer to be fired instead of a retraction published a reply titled "I must not question gays, I must not question gay"
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    Oct 29, 2009 7:17 PM GMT
    I don´t think the UK is comparable with the USA simply because the religious groups have no (or nearly no) traction with the legislative process. The "muslims are going to get you" thing is often pushed by conservative christians as motivation for evangelism. Europe is no utopia, but I have decided that no question i would rather live in Europe than the USA over this issue (and m two top countries are holland and Spain..)